Mount Question

[taylornic]

Hey Everyone, I hope this is in the proper place.  I was wondering what everyone's view on using see-thru mounts so I can use my iron sights for very close in shots?  Any associated problems or disadvantages with this setup?
Thanks,
Taylor

[JimL911]

See through mounts are usually tall and it  might be hard to get a good cheek weld. Also the size of your objective factors in, it might obscure your front sight. I just use Mil-Dot scopes and figure my hold under for 10 yards.

[TCups]

The see-through high mounts I have used (Air Force), are the worst of both worlds.  The field of view is restricted to the point that they are not very useful, and to be able to see through to the fixed sights, you have to restrict the size of the scope's bell, as by putting a 32 mm scope on high mounts.  So you compromise with a smaller (ie, less light gathering capacity) scope that must be mounted in an unnaturally high position for the ability to not see the fixed sights very well.  I know that better see through sights are available in the world of firearms, like the Kwik-Site see through sights.  I haven't seen any like these for air rifles.  Mine are drilled mounts, not dovetails.

[Evo|ve_S|66]

You can infact use high see-thru mounts. It's just that there's a saying, "Keep the scope as low as possible for the best accuracy". I forgot where I read that, but it seems to help'ish kinda? However, personally after using a 2-piece high mount setup I have found that it's very discomforting to the eyes trying to see through the little slots in the rings whilst using the iron sights (fiber-optic) coupled with the scope getting in the way. Makes the view very obstructed and difficult to see, let alone make out what it is you're looking at. It's up to you whether or not to use that type of setup. It also depends on how big your scope is as well, so keep that in mind.

-Jarred

[BigJim]

Taylor:

Long ago and just down the hill, my cousin had a set of C-Thru mounts mounted on a Remington 742 auto in 30/06. He couldn't hit a deer for all that he was (and is) a good shot. It wouldn't hold a zero through a hunt and, since he had to hold his face off the stock, it kicked the holy crap out of him. I mounted a set of low Weavers on it and told him to go from 180 gr. to 165 or 150 gr. bullets. Results-one kill at 425 yards (I am a surveyor. I measured it with my instrument) and God alone knows how many other at reasonable ranges. This was 30+ years ago and it has moved exactly twice after being dropped on the scope more than once. I just removed the factory base from my Whisper and mounted the rings directly onto the receiver last week, but I haven't had a chance to sight it in yet but it is a lot more comfortable. I also intend to raise the comb of the stock later for a comfortable cheek weld. To check if you are getting an optimum weld-close your eyes and hold your rifle comfortably. Open them and look to see where your looking. You should be looking down your scope or very close to it. If not, use different mounts or add to your stock comb until you can. The reason that it is recommended to mount the scope closer to bore is to eliminate parallax-meaning what you see through the scope is close to what the barrel is looking at. it also allows you a little more adjustment range. All my powder burner scopes are mounted with just a little daylight between them and the barrel. This makes for easier shooting and reduced felt recoil. This should apply to springers as well. Good shooting!

Jim

[chortdraw]

The closer to the barrel seems to be the best for me also