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SDale
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« on: April 08, 2007, 05:33:01 AM »

Well I finally got around to opening  the 2 B3's I ordered from Cummins and they're Garbage.

On one, the stock is cracked and the front sight is bent. One the other, everything else is good but the rear spring guide/reciever plug is busted to H@LL . Looks like I'll be callin Cummins up tomorrow!

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« Reply #1 on: April 08, 2007, 05:35:58 AM »

I recently called Cummins to complain about a broken sight and they sent me another rifle.  

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« Reply #2 on: April 08, 2007, 06:05:32 AM »

Really?Huh OOoOoOO...Maybe I can get a coupla free ones & cannibalize these!
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« Reply #3 on: April 08, 2007, 01:35:44 PM »

Received two B3's this past week from Cummins and they are both ok. One shoots around 500 fps and the other around 600 fps. Really rough cocking out of the  box but after 100 or so pellets was pretty decent.  I am going to clean and deburr both of them and of course  correct lube them. Mine came in a green box with the name 'Avid Outdoor'. They are not stamped 'Cummins' on them anywhere. Also the stock is brown, made to look like wood grain. The clear coat has a few runs and that is the only thing.  The sights seem to be straight. Out of the box, without touching the sights I was  hitting a tree about 20 yards away. And while shooting through a chrony at a target the shots at short range were not very much off. I think I received two acceptable rifles. ..FN
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    « Reply #4 on: April 08, 2007, 03:00:55 PM »

    Sam, sorry to hear that..Sad  I bet they sent you Jeff's an Ed's old returns... hehe  

    Gene
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    « Reply #5 on: April 08, 2007, 03:06:42 PM »

    A tree at 20 yards? Shoot, I can hit my back fence at thirty! Just kidding, where's Pleasant Plains in relation to Fayetteville(sp)? I have an aunt and uncle out that way.
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    « Reply #6 on: April 08, 2007, 03:29:25 PM »

    Hehehehe but I am sorry to here that too. All my B's have been good, knock on wood filler.Ed
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    « Reply #7 on: April 08, 2007, 03:41:46 PM »

    Yes, I was just wanting to see how far out the sights were, so just aimed at a tree and was amazed when I heard it hit..  PP is east of Fayetteville maybe 4 or 5 hours..  I am located closer to Jonesboro in north central Arkansas... Fayetteville is where the U of A is located, also close to Wal-Mart headquarters at Benton.... FN
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    « Reply #8 on: April 08, 2007, 03:42:10 PM »

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    fnash - 4/8/2007  5:35 PM

    Received two B3's this past week from Cummins and they are both ok. One shoots around 500 fps and the other around 600 fps. Really rough cocking out of the  box but after 100 or so pellets was pretty decent.  I am going to clean and deburr both of them and of course  correct lube them. Mine came in a green box with the name 'Avid Outdoor'. They are not stamped 'Cummins' on them anywhere. Also the stock is brown, made to look like wood grain. The clear coat has a few runs and that is the only thing.  The sights seem to be straight. Out of the box, without touching the sights I was  hitting a tree about 20 yards away. And while shooting through a chrony at a target the shots at short range were not very much off. I think I received two acceptable rifles. ..FN


    I bought one case in Oct 06, and one case in Dec 06 (five in a case)

    Octobers had a horrific dark stain, laser engraved like Michael Jacksons skin tone ( I think the stain job was a dip tank)

    Decembers Case was a weird return to the Orange finish, it lasers great though with a dark burn speed.

    The two previous ones I had purchased years ago as a lark, the first a real brite orange, early version no safety, sheet metal trigger guard, spot welded back sight.
    The second the best finished by far on the stock,  somewhat natural wood stock but same same as earlier reciever.

    The quality control at Shanghai  appears to amount to cock pull trigger if it goes poof it ships, wanna bet they are all dry fired at the factory?  That said it also appears they do make changes on the line *but* all of the changes have to keep in mind that this rifle is made in all probability to an under $10 price point for materials and labour considering shipping and Cummins markup.    Thats why ZERO deburing and all stamped parts.  I bet the assembly folk bust ass to make as many that throw the piston forward per day rather than any kinda standard whatsoever.  That said I bought my lady a nice 1077W cause she likes a repeater and a light rifle.  I cant do anything to it as its a plastic receiver and plastic barrel.  The Cummins on the other hand is a mess of burrs and ill fitting parts on a usually curios good barrel.  You can do huge improvements on your kitchen table with hand tools you probably already posses.  You can buy 5 of em for less that the 1077....  

    This is all just a speculation on my part and I love playing with the B3's

    Cheers
    Mark
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    « Reply #9 on: April 08, 2007, 04:00:00 PM »

    Eh,, win some lose some.

    One of the B3's has a Dovetail mounted rear sight and a white spring guide (this is the one with the broken stock) and the other has a spot welded rear sight and a black spring guide.
    I guess the black spring guide is more brittle?

    We'll see how things go!

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