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« on: May 07, 2010, 12:12:08 AM » |
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As a number of folk have emailed me for more detail, here's the actual test string for the total Stoeger air rifle X50 test. The Archer Airguns "Gold Service" test is 10 shots, and I'll usually take a few more with springers to try to clear some dieseling if possible. In the case of this gun, I fired a total of 33 shots - as this was the first time I had ever shot one. As you can see, there was effectively no dieseling with this X50. 1123 fps actually was the first shot fired by this rifle and it immediately settled-down to a fairly steady 1100 fps average. This is similar to my "long term test" X20 which dieseled a little more, but also for relatively few shots. Shot Muzzle Velocity 1 1123 2 1107 3 1111 4 1095 5 1115 6 1118 7 1114 8 1118 9 1109 10 1109 11 1108 12 1101 13 1109 14 1097 15 1097 16 1107 17 1109 18 1092 19 1103 20 1099 21 1103 22 1094 23 1104 24 1102 25 1096 26 1110 27 1101 28 1091 29 1114 30 1099 31 1096 32 1096 33 1094 In my view this is pretty impressive performance for a "right out of the box" air rifle. I'll publish details of my testing with the Stoeger X20 model as soon as I can. (So many guns, so little time...) Stephen Archer Archer Airguns Inc. Store: http://www.archerairguns.comBlog: http://www.archerairguns.infoVideo: http://youtube.com/archerairguns
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Gene_SC
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« Reply #1 on: May 07, 2010, 06:55:22 AM » |
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So what brand pellets were you using Steve and what weight?
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THE ONES I SLEEP WITH: BSA Lightning XL, AA TX-200, AA ProSport, BSA Ultra, HW-97K, Crosman NPSS .177, FX Cyclone, HW-30 Nicle Plated, AA-S200, Crosman Marauder, CZ-634, R-9 DG, Webley/Scott UK Tomahawk, Benji Kantana, Benji Marauder, Benji Discovery..... ....
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« Reply #2 on: May 07, 2010, 10:53:25 AM » |
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The shot strings looks impressive, how about the felt of recoil and grouping size if I may ask, Sir? Thanks.
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Time is not important, only lessons to be learned in life. 
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Gene_SC
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« Reply #3 on: May 07, 2010, 10:59:20 AM » |
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Willie, I think Steve was just giving us numbers on this post. Like he said, time is not always available running a busines like he has. I am kinda interested in the Stoegar X20. More my size of gun.. 
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THE ONES I SLEEP WITH: BSA Lightning XL, AA TX-200, AA ProSport, BSA Ultra, HW-97K, Crosman NPSS .177, FX Cyclone, HW-30 Nicle Plated, AA-S200, Crosman Marauder, CZ-634, R-9 DG, Webley/Scott UK Tomahawk, Benji Kantana, Benji Marauder, Benji Discovery..... ....
Gene\'s Tunz n Toyz Springer Tunin
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« Reply #4 on: May 07, 2010, 11:11:09 AM » |
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OK, Gene. That shot strings are really impressive for me. If that gun can group tight (say about 3/8" typical at 35 - 40 yards) that would be awesome! Mr. Archer, you need an assistant to test the guns for you so you can concentrate more on the business side. Hehehe. Just kidding, Sir.  BTW Gene, How are you? Hope you feel better now. Get well soon.
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« Reply #5 on: May 07, 2010, 11:47:45 AM » |
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I'm pretty sure he's using crosman premeir lites,does it hit hard at the end of the shot cycle?I would be afraid to use those on a magnum like that i prefer 10.5 grains,if you do more testing could you do a test on the little heavier weight.Thanx Dano.
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GS1000,177 /Stoeger x-20,177/ RWS-350p,22/ Gamo hunter sport,177/ Winchester1000XS,177/ RWS460Mag,22/ SS1000,22/, Panther34,22/, Diana350 Mag.,177/,Diana34Classic,177WithPG2/,B-3,177/, S1,177/, DianaP5,177
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Stephen Archer
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« Reply #6 on: May 07, 2010, 12:10:13 PM » |
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Oops! Sorry for omitting the obvious... I tested using Crosman Premier Lites. 7.93 Grain. I found these to be the moist accurate pellets in the X20 I tested and the group was quite good in the X50 also. (Hey, 7:00AM - when I made the post - is early for me and I'm not a coffee drinker (water only during the day), so it takes me a few minutes to fire up to running speed :-) Stephen Archer Archer Airguns Inc. Store: http://www.archerairguns.comBlog: http://www.archerairguns.infoVideo: http://youtube.com/archerairguns
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Gene_SC
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« Reply #9 on: May 07, 2010, 01:46:17 PM » |
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I am with you on the X20 Steve. I think I will order one from you and check her out. Gotta see what makes them Stoegars tick... 
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« Reply #10 on: May 07, 2010, 02:14:26 PM » |
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Them are some interesting numbers for sure I'm curious about the working's inside them also and will see what brother Gene has to show us.  Ed
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Stephen Archer
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« Reply #11 on: May 08, 2010, 01:38:47 AM » |
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Dano, I hear you about pellet weights and the Stoeger X50 air rifle. But while I don't test using the lightest pellets, many of our customers are not highly-knowledgeable about air rifles and they want to see a "Gold Service" test that indicates the muzzle velocity of their particular air rifles matches the manufacturer's claims. Explaining that a lower muzzle velocity actually would be better is very complicated for many people to understand and takes much time and effort. So, I prefer to standardise on one pellet for our "Gold Service" customer tests and that's CPLs for Stoeger air rifles - these pellets are also readily available at retail and many customers like to use the same pellets as I used to test their gun. But I will do some testing on the X50 with heavier pellets for members of this forum and post the results here when I have a chance. I have tested a variety of pellets in the X20 model already and CPLs gave the best accuracy at a steady 900fps -ish. Details to come... Stephen Archer Archer Airguns Inc. Store: http://www.archerairguns.comBlog: http://www.archerairguns.infoVideo: http://youtube.com/archerairguns
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« Reply #12 on: May 20, 2010, 05:49:02 AM » |
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what is the trigger like?
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Gene_SC
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« Reply #13 on: May 20, 2010, 06:10:28 AM » |
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If the trigger on the X50 is the same as the X20 then the pull wt is around 6lbs. If that is the case then you can buy a GRT-III trigger and you can adjust it down to 1 lbs if you like. Here is a link for showin how making the GRT-III work, http://www.gatewaytoairguns.com/airguns/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=28119&mid=221178#M221178
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« Reply #14 on: May 20, 2010, 07:11:45 AM » |
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stephen, being that they arent importing them in 22, could you get a 22 barrel from them?
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