The B26/R9 Vortek kits are ready

[CharlieDaTuna]

I've waited a little while before responding to this post to see what others might say. I also received several PM's asking for my opinion. Here are my thoughts for what they are worth.

A ten minute drop in  kit.... now that has to be a joke. You might be able to drop it in in ten minutes but in the end, ask yourself, what do you really have and what have you really accomplished  

I agree with others that a Pro-Tune or even a home tune if a person is equipped and has the knowledge is far superior to  a "package" kit. If it is done properly, a TurboTune will last the life of the gun with the exception of course that some springs do break and are a maintenance item and may need to be replaced in the future. Even then, if properly maintained and the correct pellet weights are used and no dry firing, the springs can have a very long life span.    

 I have guns out there that I tuned 8-10 years ago that shoot as well now as they did then.  In all of the years that I have tuned guns and we're talking about several thousand TurboTunes, I have only had about ten or so of the JM springs break and that was usually because of incorrect pellet weight or someone introducing lube into the compression chamber or barrel.  That's abuse.   :0

Instead of doing a "Band-Aid fix" as someone put it, in my opinion your money is far better spent on having a real tune done (or doing one yourself if possible) and having fitted and finished parts fitted to your particular gun as it is being tuned. And the "Band-Aid" fix is usually only temporary and a small part of the tuning process. It's worth little or nothing if all of the other things that are done while tuning are not completed and that doesn't come in any kit. So really, what are you getting...?  And like other Pro-Tuners such as Gene and Ed (Shadow) have said,and if I were still tuning guns, I would never ever consider such an option. For a few dollars more you can get hand crafted results and many years of enjoyment and usually trouble free shooting.

Take the money that you are/were going to spend for a "fix", save and/or add a little more and get the job done or do the job right. You will be much harrier in the long run for it.      

[geewhiz380]

Its worth a few more dollars getting it tuned by a professional that they know for sure what needs to be done which takes time ,than to home tune it for 15 to what 20 minutes,no way in the world would a home tune come out the same as a pro,s job which they spend at least an hour just to make sure you are satisfied with the performance .....my 2 cents jorge

[USNCop]

I looked at the website and I can't help but wonder if this is "that guy" from Mich that's Draggin?
Am I wrong?

[Gene_SC]

I think his name is Chris and last I heard he was a distributor and installer of those kits.

[kiwi]

The whole kit looks interesting.....

now on the engineering side...
one thing that comes to mined ....
With the systems is the rear? guide with the
spring being internal..If it was a tight/snug fit
the spring would bined when compressed as
when a compression spring is compressed it
trys to unwined thus incressing in dia so to stop
 bineding the external guide would need to be
a sloppy fit & if its not there WILL be bineding when cocked..
but that hidden in the gun so no one sees it...

Now thats why a internal guide systems good ["I won't say better at this point"]
As the gudes can be a nice snug fit  because the spring exspands away from the guide
when compressed then when fired grabs the gude at the end of it stroke to stop vibration...just to
get this right yer need to take pre load exspantion into account when makeing the gude..

just a thought...my thoughts...And a possable reason/ not just a opinion...


Pete

[larspawn]

If you mean Chris Pryjomski aka CAP, yes he is an authorized distributor and installer for Vortek.  Chris is also a springer tuner and specializes in Webleys.  He's got over a dozen in his personal collection.  Some with more bling than a rap star.

Tom Gore is the owner of Vortek and the engineer behind the Pro Guide 2 as well as the Crosman Nitro technology which he did for them.  Rumor has it he's got some new innovations up his sleeve that may be commercialized soon!

I thnk you might be referring to R!ch From M!ch aka RFM who also goes by peterdragin.  Rich is from the West side of Michigan and while he does awesome work on QBs and Gamos he can work on any airgun.  He also does barrel replacements and machining and such.  As far as I know he is not a distributor of Vortek.

Andy Wong aka larspawn

[DMikeM]

Well I'll let you all know in about a week. Got one for my .22 which is shooting in the 500 fps range right now. Damned accurate but just not the punch I expect. I also have a crosman spring and seal for it so what is there to lose at this point.