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Gateway To Product Reviews => Air Gun Mods and Tunes => : mackeralboy December 30, 2008, 12:59:01 AM
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After the cheap factory stock cracked on my .22cal Falcon Hunter I decided to make one out of wood. Never before have I made a rifle stock and I knew there was going to be a bit of trial and error. I must say though that my 8th grade wood shop skills didn't let me down and I'm pretty happy with the results.
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Man that is a whole different rifle. Like a Webly Patriot or a Beeman RX2. Great job got any pics of the build process? Beautiful work
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Thanks for the complimaent. No I kick myself in the butt that i didn't take pictures to document the building process. Like i said it was a first time so I wasn't expecting that good of results. I will say that I realized early on that I was going to have to carve out the stock for the reciever prior to cutting the slot for the linkage arm. It was a bit of a bear to carve all of that out. By doing it that way though I was able to keep the strength of the forestock and also it helped keep the stock more symetrical during the building process. After building the stock i realized that it is harder to make a stock for a break barrel airgun than it is for a powder burner.
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Excellent job! That looks great!
Post any insights that may help the rest of us. I can see that as a future project (mine hasn't cracked yet, but I assume it is a matter of time). I have never tackled a stock from scratch before, but this is inspiring.
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I posted my impressions and the issues that i have had with the Falcon Hunter in the review forum. Gene started off the topic and I added my 2 cents later on. Hope the info helps.
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Beautiful work! You've transformed the ugly duckling into the fire breathing swan.
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Awesome job on that stock Mike! Looks professional to me!!! This kind of work could 'parlez' into a fortune if you were to persue it I'm sure!! Again, Super-Work!!! tjk
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Very nice. You should be proud. How does it shoot now? I have about 950 rounds thru my Falcon Hunter. It's good and broken in now. The gun still has a lot of recoil and is still very loud. After replacing the trigger in my Gamo Hunter 890s with a GRT-III, I can't deal with the trigger in the Falcon Hunter. It's not as bad as a Gamo trigger, but now that I know what a good trigger is like, the one in the Falcon Hunter just does not make it. Also I'm 5' 7" and the Falcon Hunter is a little big for me. I wanted a gun with more power than my Hunter 890s and shot in the 900-1000fps range, that's why I bought the Falcon Hunter. I recently went over to the Darkside and purchased a 22 cal. BSA Scorpion T10 Bull Barrel. It's a beautiful gun. Shoots great, powerful, quiet and is just my size.
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Just recently i swtiched out the factory scope and rings with a one piece mount/rings and a Bushnell Legend 5-15x40 scope. It tightened up my groupings a bit but no where near where i would like them to be. Still to much "Twang" and I agree the trigger is horrible. My next goal in trying to tame this beast is to either replace the spring with a Maccarri upgrade and try too tune it myself. Or Tune it and install an Air Venturi Gas srping. i would also like to take it over to a budy of mine who has a machine shop and see if I can't get a replacement trigger made out of brass. Either way it has turned into my project gun and hopefully one day i can exercise it of all of it's demons.
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Great job on your new stock. Very professional looking job.
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Thanks Gene,
The extra weight has helped tame the beast somewhat, but I might at some point try to thin the trigger grip down a little bit to make it a little more ergonomic.
Mc
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Hi Mike, I just got thru zeroing in my new 3-9x50 leapers, and guess what? I discovered a crack radiating out of one of the forestock screw holes. By chance did you try to claim warranty, or buy another stock? I just sent an e-mail to Glenn Seiter at Umarex to see if I can buy another stock. I also have a WALTHER TALON MAGNUM, with less than 50 shots through it. And now I'm reluctant to shoot it too. As luck would have it, I was just about to place an order with PA on a 25 cal. HUNTER next month. This kinda put the woa...on that. By the way, thats a beaut of a stock. Ever think to sell one unfiinished??? LOL. Any advise will be appreciated. Regards jeff
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Mike,excellent job,very impressive looking stock!!! :) How different is the gun? :)
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I think i've said it before but the Walther guns are Beasts! Jeff, like you I had my Falcon Hunter stock crack within the first 50 shots. The only difference was that mine cracked at all 4 forend screw holes. Because I had bought the gun from Pyramyd Air I called them first about a replacement stock and ask them if they had anyone else call about the same problem. They said they hadn't had anyone call with a cracked stock but I figured because I had ordered one of the first they got in maybe I was luckey number one. Anyways they referred me to Umarex for the warranty and I thought about it and figured that Umarex would just send me another cheap plastic stock that would probably crack within the next 50 shots. The recoil on the Falcon Hunter is so severe that I really think that you need a beefy stock that can handle it. That is why I opted to make my own. No dis on Umarex just my own reasoning.
It has been a case of detective work trying to isolate every little neuance of this gun to acheive some respectable form of accuracy. After making the stock, I replace the two piece scope mounts with a sigle piece mount, initially I upgraded to a Leapers 4-16x50 scope and when that didn't seem to handle the recoil I mounted a Bushnell Legend 5-15x40. I've used JB compund on the bore and I had a new muzzle break put on. Even after doing all of that I am still don't feel that it is a real consistant shooter. My next step is probably to have a Air Venturi gas ram installed. Hopefully that will erase the enormous recoil that it has and help with the accuracy.
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Thanks Joe,
If I had to do it again i would have made it with more of a vertical pistol grip and a little shorter and narrower in the buttstock. The wood stock added about a pound and a half and helped with the accuracy a little. Like I mentioned to Chinagunner, I'm toying with the idea of having one of the gas rams installed to take away the recoil.
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Have you tried a heavier pellet Mike? The Walther's have a massive spring and the rule of thumb on pellet weight does not apply to this beast. You may have better luck with accuracy with the heavier pellets. Just my thoughts
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Gene,
Thanks for the advice. I shot a whole slew of different pellets with it the other day to get some chrony numbers and see which grouped the best. The heaviest pellets I have tried to date are; JSB Jumbo Heavies (16.5gr) 769fps, JSB Predators (16.3gr) 840fps, Logun Penatrators (20.4gr) 693fps, Beeman Crow Magnum (18.4gr) 744fps, and Beeman Kodiaks (21.5gr) 622fps. It was real intersting that when I shot any pellets heavier than the Jumbo Heavies that my gun was significantly louder and felt as if the piston was slamming harder. Just the opposite of what I had expected. My Gamo 1250 did the same thing with the heavier pellets. I found that my Falcon Hunter grouped best with JSB Jumbos (15.9gr) 840fps and Crosman Primieres (14.26gr) 872fps. While I'm talking numbers the fastest pellets I shot were the RWS Hobby (11.9gr) 963fps.
At this point I think that the 2 biggest contributers to lack of accuracy are the excessive recoil and the wobbly plastic trigger. The recoil might be rectified with a gas ram and the trigger might become my next custom project for this gun.
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Hi Mike, I didn't mention this but I bought my Falcon Hunter with the gas spring conversion. Also my Talon Magnum. My first hunter was a conventional, the first shot went 1235 fps. Thats with a 14.3 grn. Crosman dome. It started shooting very eratic, by shot 50 it slowed to 500fps. Broken spring, I called PA and sent it back. I really liked the Hunter so I ordered another with the gas ram after reading how good it was. If you never shot a gas ram you will be in for a surprise. It still has recoil, but no spring torque,twang etc. Even with the crack in the stock I was shooting ragged one holers at ten meters. ( five shot groups). Mind you, It will fight you when you cock it. From the first inch of travel till the sear engages. I dont know how much effort it takes Im guessing maybe 47-50 lbs. The conventional will start off light and get progressively harder till the sear engages. I hope you will do the conversion, I wish all my springers can be converted. Food for thought, ever think of selling unfinished stocks for the Falcon Hunters and Talon Magnums? If you do, please let me know I might really be interested. Thanks, CHINAGUNNER
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Jeff thanks for the info on the gas ram. I'm 99.9999999% sure i'm going to send it to Pyramyd for the instal in the next month or two. After that, it will be trying to figure out how to replace that wobbly trigger.
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Awesome job. I'm odering the Walther Falcon Hunter with gas-ram this week and have heard plenty claim the stock and trigger are cheap. I'm already looking for a replacement stock and trigger.
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i have a walther talon .22. I would love to have a wooden stock. is there any chance you could make another one or sell the one you allready made? by the way, the new one i have has only one screw on each side in the front. the srew on the right side screws into the screw on the left. it dosent screw into the "receiver" itself