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General Discussion To Gateway To Airguns => China Gate => : BENBO June 20, 2009, 03:23:32 AM
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I purchased the Beeman 1073 from Walmart a few day ago and after firing 40 rounds or so I am still getting smoke from the barrel. I initially bought the Crosman Storm XT, but it just did not feel right. I can't put my hand on it, it just did not feel right. I did like the scope beter than the one than comes with the Beeman however. Now my question, is there anything I should do to the gun or will the smoking and loud crack upon firing go away after awhile and what basic cleaning kit woud you recommend? I am using Crosman 177 caliber pointed premium pellets, yet to change to the 22 cal barrel. As you can see I am new to this. Previously I owned a CO 2 pistol and also own a pumpmaster. Once I get the site adjusted I plan deal with those squirrels that have been giving me the finger. Thanks in advance for any and all help given.,, Ben
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Hi Ben and welcome to the GTA,,, nice to have you with us.....
Congrats on your new shooter... a friend of mine has one and he really likes it.....
Now,,, first thing you need to do is clean the barrel. Remember, never use the cleaners and solvents that are used in regular "powder burners",,,, they will damage you rifle.
What you want to use to clean the barrel is "Goo Gone". It's a citrus based cleaner that's available in most hardware stores and in Walmart and chain pharmacy stores. Get yourself a length of weed whacker line,,, sharpen one end to a point and on the other end take a lighter or match and heat and form a round ball. Now, lightly soak a patch in the Goo Gone, thread it onto the weed whacker line by inserting the sharpened end and then insert the sharpened end of the line into the breech (where you load the pellet). Push the line through the barrel until the line comes out the end of the barrel then pull the remaining line (and patch) through. Alternate with Goo Gone patches and clean patches until the patches come out clean. That's it,,, your barrel is now clean. You don't have to clean the barrel again until your accuracy starts to degrade. Also, after you clean a barrel shoot it a bit to "lead up" the barrel. Once the barrel gets a light coating of pellet lead in it the accuracy will settle in and your ready to kill bullseyes :)
The next thing you need to do is get yourself an assortment of pellets so you can find which pellets your rifles likes the best. You can order a nice sampler pack from straightshooters.com
The pointed pellets you're using now are fine to play with but I've never found them to be very accurate,,, although I do have 1 or 2 guns that actually do like them, but for the most part they are not the best choice of pellets. Usually a good domed pellet will give you good results, try the Crosman Hollow Points that Walmart sells... they are dirt cheap and most of my shooters like em. They are also good hunting pellets if you are a hunter.
Well, I'll let some of the other members chime in here and say hello......
Once again,, nice to have you with us.... :)
Jeff
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I have 1 and have been using the 22 barrel. good cleaning with goo gone is a must. You can use a30lb fishing line or weedwacker line with patch or clean rag saturated with goo gone. I let the first pull dry out then clean it over until the clean rag comes out clean. I broke mine in with the 22 because its too powerful for the .177 for the blow out. I used daisy wadcutter at first (cheaper from walmart) and must have used 100 pellets before it settled (smoke). Now I shoot it with CPHP 14.3 and it's dead on @ 15 yards to 20 thats max for my backyard. I replaced my scope and mount that's spring break rated and a single mount to handle it's recoil. When cocking it I just set it below my hip and thigh and cock it all the way until I hear the latch click and load it while still holding the barrel. Over time she will settle..noise, cocking and accuracy. Once you're sighted it you can get a blue loctite and that will secure the stock screws and bolt from getting lose to affect POI.
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A couple of weeks ago I picked up an R2, - and returned it. Can't say there was anything seriously wrong with it, but I didn't like that damn 46 lbs. of effort to cock the damn thing. In it's place I bought a Crosman 800x, - with of course a GRT-III trigger "in the mail". Replaced the scope with one from another gun, - and I like it a lot more. You're right about cleaning the barrel on the R2, - the thing took dirty to a new level. Best of luck, ...
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Fixes for the 1073:
-thicker breach seal ...oring
-recrown the barrel
-blue loctite the scope mount bolts
It will now shoot AWESOME!
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I have a Beeman RS-2 and like Bentong, I use the .22 barrel only. Way too much power generated for the .177 pellet. At least for my shooting around the house. When I first started shooting mine, every shot smelled like bacon. Eventually it calmed down and now it smells like a fast food joint. And I am not joking.
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I am now pretty excited about this gun. There for a while I thought I made a mistake. Right now I'm pleased with the gun.
.177 barrel at 30 ft with crosman hollow points. Seems to shoot them well. The pointed Daisys?....not so well to say the least.
These were shot free hand with an arm rest only. No sand bags, no gun rest, no nothing.
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40 feet with a decent rest(pillows on a table ;) )
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I dont know what the general consensus is about the kind of pellet the RS2 likes, but I will tell you that you should get yourself a pellet sampler from StraightShooters.com and try out all the pellets and see which one works the best. Who knows you might be getting these groups at 90-120 feet with the right pellet. Good luck :)
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Thanks for the tip. So far the Crosman Premier hollow points seem to be doing well. I will get that sampler and try it out.
Still learning how to sight a scope it and that may seem obvious.
Trying to learn how to set it and compensate for rise and drop for different distances once it is set.
A new thing for me as I have always used fixed sights.
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id take it back to wally world. every gun i ever bought from them was bad. return it and get something online
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If you can do a lube tune on her, she can be a very smooth shooter. My 2 yrs old RS2 is a pleasure to shoot after my lube tune and debur, don't even use the scope stop for it's less recoil and just a thud sound when fired. I can't complain for the price and potential on the RS2. There's ton of information on how and materials to use to do this..that is if you are mechanically incline and don't mind getting your hands dirty. From 10 yrds, mine will shoot single or clover hole rested using 14.3 CPHP. It takes sometimes to know the behavior each springer shoots and most times the shooter gives up and blame the poor airgun. If I shoot my CO2 or pneumatic airguns for a while then shoot my springer...It's just like starting all over again and if i didn't know it shoots good i'll say it's a defective airgun. It's just that there are too many variables to be able to put the same pellet in the same hole and often times the one omitted for the blame is the shooter IMHO. (http://../jscripts/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/smiley-wink.gif)
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I will look to see how to lube/tune. I am pretty mech inclined.
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25 yards with .22 barrel and Daisy Precision Max flats.
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Hello All..Im a newby here as well.. Ill just dive on in!
I happen to own the beeman 1073.. I shoot the 22 cal barrel only & it likes the crosman 14.3 gr pointed hunting pellet very well. It also likes the beeman FTS, but the crosmans are much cheaper & actually have a little better BC than the FTS. Below is a 20 yrd test target, the larger group was shot useing the 11.9 Gr RWS wad cutter & the other is the crosman 14.3 gr pointed. The group can be covered by a dime, but I have since done better than this.. I had doubts about this rifle at first because of the problems with the barrel screw & breech seal. But after useing locktite on the screw & shimming the breech seal, the rifle now drives tacks & achieves 750 FPS. Excellent adjustable trigger as well! Mine easily went down to 1-1/2 LBS.. Anything from 10 to 40 yrds is doomed when the crosshair settles... I also own a new benjaim trail XL & a stoeger x10, but this rifle remains my favorite..
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I just got the Beeman RS2 combo kit from wally world as well. I have put about 250 shots through her. I'm about to tear her down and do a debur and polishing job. I have never worked on a springer before but i have done tons of paintball gun trigger jobs. Has anyone attempted to modify this rifle to not click the safety on when it is cocked? I'm going to home depot to grab a clamp to build the spring compressor right now.
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You can take out the safety. Try here for trigger mod > http://webpages.charter.net/guru1/documents/RSE%20Airguns%20-%20Beeman%20RS2%20trigger%20guide.pdf
and taking it apart >> http://www.kermitairgunclub.com/projects/ss1000.pdf
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Thanks for the links Bentong. I will post some pics when I'm done with the tuning. Also has anyone experimented with putting washers behind the top hat to giver her a little more zip?
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I opened up this gun and my spring guide is not looking too happy. The base of it has been smashed out of shape. Also the breach is quite scratched up. A few hours with the dremel tool and hopefully she will be in good shape. I am looking for a replacement spring guide. Can anyone help me find a replacement? perhaps an aluminum or steal one? The automatic safety is just an arm that connects the cocking arm to the trigger assembly. The first thing I did was remove it and throw it in the trash...
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Try here...he did an upgrade on the spring guide >> http://s246.photobucket.com/albums/gg101/Tunajussi/AR%20Magnum/
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So the safety still works? Just not automatic now?
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Looks like I will be fabricating something similer to that heavy duty spring guide. I wish it had a lathe. I'm going to do it all on a craftsman corded drill secured to the workbench in a vise lol.
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I'm having trouble with the spacing. I cant get the gun to cock because the bolt end is too think. I'm taking it to a friend of mine that has a lathe.