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Title: airgun clone list
Post by: Magnum on June 29, 2009, 04:42:33 AM
Ok Ya'll , I have been collecting info from various places and making myself a list of similar AG's, Just for the fun of it:)  I need some extra help from those that know more than me about match ups:) possible ones not shown and corrections if need be:) All is welcome... I will collate all info categories and post a final sheet, when I'm done:)

AIRGUN CLONES COPIES AND SIMILAR LIST?
Bam B-3 – 1 AK  / bam B-3  =
Bam xs-B9-1 Tactical = QB-57
Bam B-9 woodstock=
Xs B-12 =
Xisico XS-B16 / B-16  =
B18/19......= Gamo 220/440
B20....= Beeman ?= HW?
B21....  R7?/ HW 30?
Bam B-25 / 25s  = Rugar Airhawk = RWS 34
Bam B-26 / 26-a / 26-2 thumbhole = Beeman R-9 =  HW95=
Bam B-28 = RWS 350
Bam B-30 = RWS 48/RWS 52 = Tech Force 21
Bam B-40 = AirArms TX200                                                  
Bam B50/51 = Daystate Huntsman
Industry brand QB 36-1 =
Industry brand QB 36- 2 =
Industry brand AR2023 =
Industry brand QB-78 / QB78deluxe, co2 = Bam AR2078A  match = TF79=
industry brand QB-79 co2 PB Tank = QB-79 / 79Thumbhole =


 the SS2 Chinese pistol not so good copy of the Weirauch HW70.

Teck Force 89 = Beeman RS2
Cometa:
RWS94 = Cometa 400.
RWS93 = Cometa 300 (pretty sure).
RWS92 = Cometa 220.
RWS9_(B for Blue, N for Nickel) = Cometa Indian

Cometa Fenix 400 = RWS 94
Cometa 300 = RWS 93
Cometa Indian = RWS 9B & 9N
CZ 200S = Air Arms S 200
CZ 200T = Daisy Avanti XS40 Valiant


Daystate LR90 Mk.II NJ -= Beeman Mako FT
Gamo 500 = Daisy 1170
Gamo Expo 26 = Daisy 131
Gamo Hunter 440 = Daisy 1000 = Savage 1000G
Gamo P-800 = Daisy 1140

Hatsan 35 = Daisy 600X
Hatsan 55 = Daisy 800
Mendoza RM-100 = Crosman RM177
Mendoza RM-600 = Crosman RM677
Mendoza RM-800 = Crosman RM877

Norica Jet = Beeman S1 = Marksman 45
Norica Krono= Beeman GS700 = Marksman 0035
Norica Marvic = Beeman GS1000
Theoben Eliminator = Beeman Crow Magnum
Theoben Rapid 12 = Beeman Super 12

Webley Patriot = Beeman Kodiak
Webley Tracker = Barnett Spitfire
Webley Vulcan Mk.III Carbine = Beeman Bearcub
Weihrauch HW30S = Beeman R7
Weihrauch HW40 = Beeman P3
Weihrauch HW45 = Beeman P1
Weihrauch HW50S = Beeman R8
Weihrauch HW75 = Beeman P2
Weihrauch HW77/HW77K = Marksman 60/61
Weihrauch HW80 = Beeman R1
Weihrauch HW85 = Beeman R10
Weihrauch HW90 = Beeman RX-1
Weihrauch HW95 = Beeman R9
Weihrauch HW98 = Beeman R11 = Marksman 58-FTS
Weihrauch HW99S = Beeman R6

Diana, Original,
Gecado, Geco & RWS Beeman Hy-Score Winchester
Diana-34= BAM  B - 25 = Ruger Airhawk
Diana-350= BAM B - 28

1 - - - -
2 = 814
5 = 815T = 353
5G = 700 = 825T
6 = 816M = 363
6G 800 = 826T -
6M 850 = 827T -
10 900 = 819M -
15 = 808 -
16 = 805 = 416
22 = 806 422
23 = 813 = 423
24=
25 = 801 = 425
27 100 = 807 = 427
35 200 = 809 = 435
45** 250 = 828 -
50 = - 450
60 = 810M -
66 = 810SM, 811SM = 333
75 400 = 820SM
400 Univ. = 830SM

**Crosman Challenger 6100
Models not made by DianaWerk:
Hy-Score pistols model 800, 801, 802 made in USA for Hy-Score
Hy-Score 822T pistol Made by Em-Ge in Germany
Hy-Score rifles models 821, 833SM, 894 made by Hammerli
Hy-Score 824M pistol = Hammerli Master CO2
Hy-Score 823M pistol = Hammerli Single CO2
Hy-Score 817M pistol = Wischo/BSF CM
Hy-Score 818 pistol = Anschutz
Hy-Score 801 (1st model) rifle = made in Belgium by Anciens
Etablissements Pieper in Herstal Belgium
CROSMAN -- SEARS CROSSOVER NUMBERS
Crosman model # Sears number
180 standard = 126.2830
180 dual powerlet = 126.19311
150 standard Sears = 126.1935
150 JCHiggins = 126.2920
150 Ted Williams = 126.1909
400 = 126.19320
140/1400 = 126.19300
166 Hahn Super BB Repeater = 126.19330
SA-6 = 126.19380
HB 45 BB repeater = 126.19370
600 = 126.19360
130 = 126.19340
760 = 126.192


Title: Re: airgun clone list
Post by: mackeralboy on June 29, 2009, 06:16:24 AM
Bam 18/19 = Gamo 220/440 = Crosman Quest 1000/ 800X


Title: Re: airgun clone list
Post by: triry on June 29, 2009, 07:48:27 AM
Xisico XS-B16 / B-16 = B12

* and possibly stoeger x5


Title: RE: airgun clone list
Post by: daveshoot on June 29, 2009, 09:21:06 AM


Hatsan 125 = Walther Falcon Hunter



I think Winchester 1000was another Hatsan model?



Title: RE: airgun clone list
Post by: jonnnyboy on June 29, 2009, 11:53:41 AM
Isn't the QB78 a clone of the Crosman 2260?

Joe


Title: Re: airgun clone list
Post by: Gene_SC on June 29, 2009, 11:54:10 AM
Great work guys. Keep this going and I will compile the whole list when done and put it in the GTA Library for everyone to see. Tony that is allot of work and thanks very much.


Title: RE: airgun clone list
Post by: DanoInTx on June 29, 2009, 12:46:36 PM
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jonnnyboy - 6/29/2009  5:53 PM

Isn't the QB78 a clone of the Crosman 2260?

Joe


Nope, the QB78 is a clone of the Crosman 160.  The 2260 is a completely different animal.


Title: Re: airgun clone list
Post by: DanoInTx on June 29, 2009, 12:52:18 PM
SM1000/B21/B30/B30-1 and TF21  are clones of the RWS/Diana Model 48/52
B20/B26/B26-2 are clones of the Beeman R9/HW95


Title: Re: airgun clone list
Post by: kiwi on June 29, 2009, 05:06:40 PM
kral underlever = gamo CFX...
Kral brake barrel = Gamo Shadow

Hatsan mod 55 = wincheaster 1000
Hatsan mod 60 = Wincheaster 800

SPA B11 = Hatsan mod 55/60  "older single sear trigger model"

B3 = Sealion "very rear"
B2-1 = Stirling


Title: Re: airgun clone list
Post by: bryan on June 29, 2009, 06:41:49 PM
thanks for sharing


Title: Re: airgun clone list
Post by: gamo2hammerli on June 30, 2009, 01:21:29 AM
That's an excellent job Tony.  And the ones that contributed also.


Title: Re: airgun clone list
Post by: geewhiz380 on June 30, 2009, 04:19:21 AM
thank u for listing this infomation....jorge.


Title: Re: airgun clone list
Post by: RedFeather on June 30, 2009, 04:56:01 PM
Kral CFX clone is the "Concorde" model.

Nice list but be aware that some of those aren't clones - simply guns that are imported with a new name ("re-badged").  For example, GECO was a distributor for Diana and also rimfires like Mauser.


Title: Re: airgun clone list
Post by: Magnum on June 30, 2009, 06:07:44 PM
Good point thanks,  I may make a sub list named that (re-badged):) I'm  going to let this run for a while ,to let all coments come in ..before I do a final take.  Thank to all for input so far, Tony.


Title: Re: airgun clone list
Post by: Gene_SC on June 30, 2009, 11:53:20 PM
When you are done with your compiled list Tony just let me know and we will put it in the GTA Library for all to reference. Thanks again.


Title: RE: airgun clone list
Post by: airgunandy on July 02, 2009, 08:59:34 AM
In case you're interested, the Baikal IJ-22 was also sold in the US as the Hy-Score 870


Title: RE: airgun clone list
Post by: larspawn on July 03, 2009, 11:43:30 AM
Q36-1 = TF97 me thinks


Title: Final imput needed:)RE: airgun clone list
Post by: Magnum on July 07, 2009, 03:25:47 AM
My list is coming together and looking good thanks all for the extra input:)
  Gene,  I will definitely send the final take to you so you post for everyone to share:)  
   I'm to going wait  another week or two to allow for  my final research and any final suggestions from members..and mainly because I'm going fishing for a week:)  I have a plan for catching  a fish with an airgun! ..  I'll let ya'll  know if im successful:)

All suggestions and airguns matches are welcome, Thanks Tony.


Title: RE: Final imput needed:)RE: airgun clone list
Post by: gearsnguns on July 08, 2009, 03:24:35 PM
A few here have said that the Stoeger X5 and X10 are known Chinese models...anyone sure which?


Title: RE: Final imput needed:)RE: airgun clone list
Post by: kiwi on July 08, 2009, 03:49:39 PM
Quote
gearsnguns - 7/9/2009  2:24 PM

A few here have said that the Stoeger X5 and X10 are known Chinese models...anyone sure which?


Yer..forgot about those...They are a Bam...not sure what model  ???
But the Bam B50 can also be had as a Stoeger B50...not sure if the thumb
hole B51 comes as a stoeger also ??

Pete


Title: RE: airgun clone list
Post by: Gene_SC on July 08, 2009, 05:06:56 PM


Let me know when your list is complete as you can get it and I will put it in the GTA Library.



Gene



Title: RE: airgun clone list
Post by: Magnum on July 09, 2009, 07:58:10 AM
Gene, Will do :) It will be about a week and bit.. after my fishing trip. Tony.


Title: Re: airgun clone list
Post by: Gene_SC on July 09, 2009, 12:46:36 PM
Thanks Tony and have fun...:)


Title: Re: airgun clone list
Post by: DanoInTx on July 11, 2009, 01:19:14 PM
QB36-2 TF99


Title: Ok this is final take on airgun clone list
Post by: Magnum on July 19, 2009, 03:18:56 PM
I have been collecting info from various places and making myself a list  showing similar and re-badged AG's, Just for the fun of it:)  I know there are some i may have missed maybe others can make corrections and adds later:) Hope ya'll enjoy the list, Tony.
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B3 = Sealion "very rare"
B2-1 = Stirling
Bam B-3 – 1 AK  / bam B-3  =
Bam xs-B9-1 Tactical = QB-57
Bam B-9 woodstock=
Xs B-12 =
Xisico XS-B16 / B-16  = B12 and possibly stoeger x5
B18/19......= Gamo 220/440= Crosman Quest 1000/ 800X
B20....= Beeman ?= HW?
B21....  R7?/ HW 30?
SM1000/B21/B30/B30-1 and TF21 are clones of the RWS/Diana Model 48/52
Bam B-25 / 25s  = Rugar Airhawk = RWS 34
Bam B-26 / 26-a / 26-2 thumbhole = Beeman R9 =  HW95=
Bam B-28 = RWS 350
Bam B-30 = RWS 48/RWS 52 = Tech Force 21
Bam B-40 = AirArms TX200                                                  
Bam B50/51 = Daystate Huntsman=Stoeger B50
Industry brand QB 36-1 =Q36-1 = TF97 ?
Industry brand QB 36- 2 = TF99
Industry brand AR2023 =
Industry brand QB-78 / QB78deluxe, co2 = Bam AR2078A  match = TF79=Crosman 160
industry brand QB-79 co2 PB Tank = QB-79 / 79Thumbhole =
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kral underlever = gamo CFX...
Kral brake barrel = Gamo Shadow
Kral CFX clone is the "Concorde" model
 the SS2 Chinese pistol not so good copy of the Weirauch HW70.

Teck Force 89 = Beeman RS2
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Cometa:
RWS94 = Cometa 400.
RWS93 = Cometa 300 (pretty sure).
RWS92 = Cometa 220.
RWS9_(B for Blue, N for Nickel) = Cometa Indian

Cometa Fenix 400 = RWS 94
Cometa 300 = RWS 93
Cometa Indian = RWS 9B & 9N
CZ 200S = Air Arms S 200
CZ 200T = Daisy Avanti XS40 Valiant

Daystate LR90 Mk.II NJ -= Beeman Mako FT
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Gamo 500 = Daisy 1170
Gamo Expo 26 = Daisy 131
Gamo Hunter 440 = Daisy 1000 = Savage 1000G
Gamo P-800 = Daisy 1140
Hatsan 125 = Walther Falcon Hunter=
Hatsan 35 = Daisy 600X
Hatsan 55 = Daisy 800
Hatsan mod 55 = Winchester 1000
Hatsan mod 60 = Winchester 800
Mendoza RM-100 = Crosman RM177
Mendoza RM-600 = Crosman RM677
Mendoza RM-800 = Crosman RM877
SPA B11 = Hatsan mod 55/60 "older single sear trigger model"
Norica Jet = Beeman S1 = Marksman 45
Norica Krono= Beeman GS700 = Marksman 0035
Norica Marvic = Beeman GS1000
Theoben Eliminator = Beeman Crow Magnum
Theoben Rapid 12 = Beeman Super 12
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Webley Patriot = Beeman Kodiak
Webley Tracker = Barnett Spitfire
Webley Vulcan Mk.III Carbine = Beeman Bearcub
Weihrauch HW30S = Beeman R7
Weihrauch HW40 = Beeman P3
Weihrauch HW45 = Beeman P1
Weihrauch HW50S = Beeman R8
Weihrauch HW75 = Beeman P2
Weihrauch HW77/HW77K = Marksman 60/61
Weihrauch HW80 = Beeman R1
Weihrauch HW85 = Beeman R10
Weihrauch HW90 = Beeman RX-1
Weihrauch HW95 = Beeman R9
Weihrauch HW98 = Beeman R11 = Marksman 58-FTS
Weihrauch HW99S = Beeman R6
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Diana, Original,
Gecado, Geco & RWS Beeman Hy-Score Winchester
Diana-34= BAM  B - 25 = Ruger Airhawk
Diana-350= BAM B - 28

1 - - - -
2 = 814
5 = 815T = 353
5G = 700 = 825T
6 = 816M = 363
6G 800 = 826T -
6M 850 = 827T -
10 900 = 819M -
15 = 808 -
16 = 805 = 416
22 = 806 422
23 = 813 = 423
24=
25 = 801 = 425
27 100 = 807 = 427
35 200 = 809 = 435
45** 250 = 828 -
50 = - 450
60 = 810M -
66 = 810SM, 811SM = 333
75 400 = 820SM
400 Univ. = 830SM

Baikal IJ-22 was also sold in the US as the Hy-Score 870
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Crosman Challenger 6100
Models not made by DianaWerk:
Hy-Score pistols model 800, 801, 802 made in USA for Hy-Score
Hy-Score 822T pistol Made by Em-Ge in Germany
Hy-Score rifles models 821, 833SM, 894 made by Hammerli
Hy-Score 824M pistol = Hammerli Master CO2
Hy-Score 823M pistol = Hammerli Single CO2
Hy-Score 817M pistol = Wischo/BSF CM
Hy-Score 818 pistol = Anschutz
Hy-Score 801 (1st model) rifle = made in Belgium by Anciens
Etablissements Pieper in Herstal Belgium
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
CROSMAN -- SEARS CROSSOVER NUMBERS
Crosman model # Sears number
180 standard = 126.2830
180 dual powerlet = 126.19311
150 standard Sears = 126.1935
150 JCHiggins = 126.2920
150 Ted Williams = 126.1909
400 = 126.19320
140/1400 = 126.19300
166 Hahn Super BB Repeater = 126.19330
SA-6 = 126.19380
HB 45 BB repeater = 126.19370
600 = 126.19360
130 = 126.19340
760 = 126.192


Title: RE: Ok this is final take on airgun clone list
Post by: JimL911 on July 19, 2009, 03:29:55 PM
B 20 =R9, replaced by B-26.


Title: Re: airgun clone list
Post by: kiwi on July 19, 2009, 08:43:13 PM
looks good....
Webleys have a Hatsan version "as now made by Hatsan"
Stoger X10/X15/X20 are Bam ? something


Title: Airgun clone/rebadge list has made it to library
Post by: Magnum on July 20, 2009, 12:39:42 AM
Thanks to everyones help and to Gene, the final list is now in the GTA library:)