Hi Mike, I didn't mention this but I bought my Falcon Hunter with the gas spring conversion. Also my Talon Magnum. My first hunter was a conventional, the first shot went 1235 fps. Thats with a 14.3 grn. Crosman dome. It started shooting very eratic, by shot 50 it slowed to 500fps. Broken spring, I called PA and sent it back. I really liked the Hunter so I ordered another with the gas ram after reading how good it was. If you never shot a gas ram you will be in for a surprise. It still has recoil, but no spring torque,twang etc. Even with the crack in the stock I was shooting ragged one holers at ten meters. ( five shot groups). Mind you, It will fight you when you cock it. From the first inch of travel till the sear engages. I dont know how much effort it takes Im guessing maybe 47-50 lbs. The conventional will start off light and get progressively harder till the sear engages. I hope you will do the conversion, I wish all my springers can be converted. Food for thought, ever think of selling unfinished stocks for the Falcon Hunters and Talon Magnums? If you do, please let me know I might really be interested. Thanks, CHINAGUNNER