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riddle me this: RS2 shooting way low in .177
« on: June 10, 2010, 08:27:18 AM »
I think I scored a winner here, but it's a diamond in the rough. I bought the Beeman RS2 from Wally for $59.99, and the .177 barrel shoots about eight inches low. I swapped in the .22 and it shoots just fine. I had shimmed the scope's rear mount, but to no avail on the .177 barrel. Anyone got any tips for me? I'd like to bring the .177 into good shooting order. Crown it? Check it for true? I'll do those things, but what else might cause it to shoot so low the scope can't help it. Of course the open sites produce acceptable results.
thanks!
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sorry about your cat Mrs.B. I thought it was a squirrel. Well, one down; eight to go! No Ma\'am. Not funny.

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Re: riddle me this: RS2 shooting way low in .177
« Reply #1 on: June 10, 2010, 09:56:20 AM »
Hey Darryl WELCOME TO THE G.T.A.!!!!! I'm glad you got a good one.Mine is shooting great so far with open sight's at 10 & 20 yd's,but I have not but on .177 barrell yet?(I have other's in .177 I shoot)But it sound's like you have a handel on it,factory gun's can alway's use a little TLC when new.But it sound's like your .177 barrell's got a little droop in it,even if not you can tweak it a little too raise p.o.i.,just don't go heavy handed & take your time(a little goes a long way).The scope on these are like all factory one's ,they too leave a lot of room in improvement department,a good mount & scope will make a world of diff. for you also,I most likely will not mount up till I get a better set up.KEEP all screw's(stock an scope)tight an enjoy your new addiction!!!P.S. don't know where in cinci. your at but give a shout sometime an we will get together an shoot,I'm as you can see in franklin.Trying to find a club for us all in S.W. ohio here.
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RE: riddle me this: RS2 shooting way low in .177
« Reply #2 on: June 10, 2010, 09:59:16 AM »
So does the .177 barrel shoot accurate, just low? If so it could be a couple of things. The breech face angle may not have been machined correctly and the brech block does not rotate up enough against the end of the compression tube when you close it. Or the barrel was pressed into the breech block off angle(but the breech face is fine), causing the droop. Try laying a long straight edge (like a yard stick etc) across the top of the rifle, starting on end a few inches in  on the reciever near the breechand then hanging out over the barrel. If you can (might need some help or three hands to hold everything lol) try to measure how much droop there is on the different barrels and compare it. You may need to bend the .177 barrel up to bring more into line w/ the .22. I would avoid shimming the scope. Plus you don't want to have to remove the shims when using the .22 and re-install them for the .177.  Ideally you would want them very close, so that it would take minor scope adjustments when switching between barrels, not a complete sight in.

HTH

Nathan

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Re: riddle me this: RS2 shooting way low in .177
« Reply #3 on: June 15, 2010, 04:49:06 AM »
Fixes for the RS2:
-recrown the barrels
-loctite the scope mounts. I have had zero problems since doing this.
-loctite the barrel/stock screws
-shoot the *_*_*_*_*_* out of it

You STOLE it!!

Wally World  has Crosman Premier Hollow Points in both .177 and NOW .22s!! They shoot well in this gun.

After doing the above mods I have very little scope adjustment between the barrels.

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Re: riddle me this: RS2 shooting way low in .177
« Reply #4 on: June 15, 2010, 06:33:46 AM »
thanks for all the replies, guys. I checked and the .177 barrel is definitely bent downward. I rolled it in place on my kitchen counter top while trying to slide a store receipt under it. Bad luck. the receipt slid under the barrel at roughly the center. I looked at that point and saw daylight. The good news is I contacted S/R Industries and a new one will be sent out to me by the end of the week. But I was told by customer service that each barrel is custom-fitted to each breech. In fact S/R wanted me to send the bent barrel back to them, but I opted for them to send me a new one. That way I have a box to send back the old one (if I choose). Meanwhile, I'm waiting for my CenterPoint 4x16x40mm mil-dot scope and my Leapers one piece mount to arrive. :D
darryl.
PS I'm glad the site is back up!!!
sorry about your cat Mrs.B. I thought it was a squirrel. Well, one down; eight to go! No Ma\'am. Not funny.

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Re: riddle me this: RS2 shooting way low in .177
« Reply #5 on: June 15, 2010, 07:48:51 AM »
put it in a padded vice and use a cheater pipe to bend it the right way. dont have to send it out and problem solved thats why i dont buy from wallyworld or the chinese beemans from anywhere cause they are junk without work. with the money you spend on that piece of crap to get it shooting well you could have got a panther or a decentley tuned chinese gun from mike m

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Re: riddle me this: RS2 shooting way low in .177
« Reply #6 on: June 15, 2010, 09:28:54 AM »
hey (it's not)Tom,
I haven't spent more than the purchase price on the rifle so far, not counting a new scope and scope mount. But I get your point. If it's too good to be true it probably ain't. I think if I can swing another air rifle purchase (from the wife) I'll take a few steps up in quality. I recall older Beemans being ready right from the box. No dickin around to make them shoot better. They shot well, then better as they broke in. But my Beeman-budget days are behind me for now. Do this thing will do me nicely. A little sweat-equity, and I'm hopeful the rough gem will polish out nicely.
darryl
sorry about your cat Mrs.B. I thought it was a squirrel. Well, one down; eight to go! No Ma\'am. Not funny.

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Re: riddle me this: RS2 shooting way low in .177
« Reply #7 on: June 15, 2010, 09:33:41 AM »
you can always return that gun and put the money to a better one, try a b26

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Re: riddle me this: RS2 shooting way low in .177
« Reply #8 on: June 15, 2010, 09:50:11 AM »
hhmmmmm... true. true. I'll look into a B26. Is it nice right out of the box? I was originally interested in an (inexpensive) .22 air rifle that will do 800fps right out of the box (no fake marketing numbers, but true chrono-tested). I guess I'll ask in the general forum.
darryl
sorry about your cat Mrs.B. I thought it was a squirrel. Well, one down; eight to go! No Ma\'am. Not funny.

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Re: riddle me this: RS2 shooting way low in .177
« Reply #9 on: June 15, 2010, 11:49:36 AM »
Got my RS2 almost 3 years now for Pyramid air which I tuned myself with info I got from searching and help tips from fellow airgunners here and there and last year I got a MM QB26 .22. The QB26 is a single holer and smooth but the RS2 is butter smooth and have a tad more power and shoots where I aim it consistently and more quite than the QB. It could be I did right on my tuning and got her "G" spot.

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Re: riddle me this: RS2 shooting way low in .177
« Reply #10 on: June 15, 2010, 12:10:21 PM »
He's right. I spent 50 cents on a bolt to re-crown the barrels. I'm now broke.

Gun shoots great now.

Guess I learned my lesson...

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Re: riddle me this: RS2 shooting way low in .177
« Reply #11 on: June 15, 2010, 02:25:18 PM »
Interest rates are quite low now. I'd refinance that loan for that bolt! :D Did I mentin that while that .177 barrel shot (so low that Satan was skipping about to avoid the pellets) fairly accurately when I tried it with the open sights? If S/R manages to send me a straight barrel that shoots decently, I will keep the RS2. If I run into issues, I'll take it back and consider something a bit more elegant, but still not too expensive. After all, Bentong seems to be enjoying his RS2. Is it made in Germany? I've seen some with muzzle brakes, and assume those are German made models (none at Wallyworld, unfortunately.
darryl
sorry about your cat Mrs.B. I thought it was a squirrel. Well, one down; eight to go! No Ma\'am. Not funny.

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Re: riddle me this: RS2 shooting way low in .177
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darryl - 6/15/2010  10:25 PM  Interest rates are quite low now. I'd refinance that loan for that bolt! :D Did I mentin that while that .177 barrel shot (so low that Satan was skipping about to avoid the pellets) fairly accurately when I tried it with the open sights? If S/R manages to send me a straight barrel that shoots decently, I will keep the RS2. If I run into issues, I'll take it back and consider something a bit more elegant, but still not too expensive. After all, Bentong seems to be enjoying his RS2. Is it made in Germany? I've seen some with muzzle brakes, and assume those are German made models (none at Wallyworld, unfortunately. darryl



Got the RS2 from Pyramid Air about 3 years ago and from what I've done with it,...has been a pleasure to shoot since. I don't easily give up until I get my shooters to shoot small groupings...Thanks to this forum and fixes from forum members I have learned a lot. I'm only shooting the .22 for it's a lot smoother with that caliber. Trigger is crisp real 2 stage better than my QB26.


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Re: riddle me this: RS2 shooting way low in .177
« Reply #13 on: June 15, 2010, 04:21:03 PM »
the b26 does actual 750 numbers. depending on the pellet

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Re: riddle me this: RS2 shooting way low in .177
« Reply #14 on: June 16, 2010, 08:45:12 AM »
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itsnotom - 6/15/2010  9:21 PM

the b26 does actual 750 numbers. depending on the pellet

I NEED MORE POWER!! ( I need more power). POWER! POWER!! POWER!! (well...power on a budget!) :)
Darryl
sorry about your cat Mrs.B. I thought it was a squirrel. Well, one down; eight to go! No Ma\'am. Not funny.