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« on: April 24, 2008, 08:00:11 AM »

i am on the hunt again for another gun.  i keep tripping over my feet and falling on the dard side.  i am interested in the bsa lonestar.  does anyone have any info on this gun?  also, i will probably have to buy a pump at first until i can save money for the scuba tanks and all the "goodies".  what type of pump do you recommend for this rifle?  i am looking at the hill, bsa, and logun hand pumps.  please advise on gun and pumps.

thanx.
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« Reply #1 on: April 24, 2008, 08:54:37 AM »

Roger,I would definitely buy The Hill Pump.....I have shot the LONESTAR .25, It is an excellent rifle & fairly priced,We chronied the w/ .25 / 31g KODIAKS...753....757.......752......754....751 FPS...The LONESTAR is  GOOD LOOKING RIFLE.....It is a bit on the loud side,after shooting for awhile it calmed down some,they sell moderators to lower the loudness....Very nice choice......GOOD LUCK!
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« Reply #2 on: April 24, 2008, 09:50:58 AM »

For the most part ya can`t go wrong with BSA guns,,,IMO-Had a Logan pump before i went dual scuba,always worked & well!They sell alot of Hill`s tho.Just my .02! :)
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    « Reply #3 on: April 24, 2008, 11:43:19 AM »

    Depends on the size of air tube on the BSA Roger. If it is a big long tube that is 20 bar or above you do not want to pump it up..hehe Gene
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    « Reply #4 on: April 24, 2008, 12:32:09 PM »

    This used to be called the Hornet I think. Very accurate rifle. I think it's a 140-180cc tube @ 3000psi your first fill would be brutal I think in the range of 175 strokes to fill it. You going to have this with any 3000 psi PCP. A quality pump wit  drypac will run more than a tank and yoke.
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    « Reply #5 on: April 24, 2008, 02:16:58 PM »

    The Lonestar and the Sportsman HV - (Sold only at Sportsmans Warehouse) are very similar to the Hornet, same basic action, use the BSA Micrometric cocking system. The real difference between the Lonestar and the Hornet is that the Hornet is regulated, the Lonestar is not.
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    « Reply #6 on: April 24, 2008, 05:03:53 PM »

      Is the HV regulated? Single shot? I googled it this afternoon but really did not find too much about the HV.  The "review center" information was not very in depth.
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    « Reply #7 on: April 24, 2008, 11:43:00 PM »

    Nope, the Sportsman HV is not regulated. It is basically the same rifle as the Lonestar. It was just sold under that name as a marketing agreement between Precision Airgun Distributors (the wholesale arm of AoA) and Sportsmans Warehouse.
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    « Reply #8 on: April 25, 2008, 02:02:46 AM »

    what do yo umean "regulated"....?...i'm still learning this stuff.
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    « Reply #9 on: April 25, 2008, 03:02:08 AM »

    Regulated PCP rifles have a mechanism in the valving that varies the duration that the valve is open on each shot depending on the remaining pressure in the reservoir, ie. when there is a higher level of pressure in the tank the valve will open for a shorter time, when there is less pressure the valve stays open longer. This allows the rifle to be more consistent in velocity, shot to shot.
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    « Reply #10 on: April 25, 2008, 03:24:14 AM »

    ok....so if i'm going to invest this kind of money, i should look for a regulated gun?  regulated is better?
     also, have you played with a b-51?

    thanx,
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    « Reply #11 on: April 25, 2008, 03:35:59 AM »

    Peak, which manufacturer's of regulate PCP's, in your opinion makes the best one's. In my FX Cyclone it can go from a lower power match rifle to mid-power plinker to a full power field gun that is great for hunting. It has an external 3-step power adjuster thumb-wheel which allows for the different power settings. I think this is a mechanical device whish changes the size of the hole in which air passes, but it could be a spring tensioner. What do you think?  Does that fall in the "regulated " definition you speak of or is it merely mechanical?

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    « Reply #12 on: April 25, 2008, 03:45:55 AM »

    You're pretty much only going to get a regulated gun in the real high end, read pricey rifles. I wouldn't pass up a nice shooting PCP that did all I wanted it to do just because it wasn't regulated. I haven't shot a B50/B51. They are a semi clone of the old Daystate Huntsman. They are a decent gun if you do a bit of fiddling to address some of the issues they have. If I were going to buy a B50, I'd get one from Big Ed. For a very reasonble cost, not much more than buying one from Best Gun, or Sportsmans Target, he'll sell you one that he has gone through that makes it a lot nicer shooting, much more reliable rifle.
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    « Reply #13 on: April 25, 2008, 03:49:51 AM »

    Power adjusters are not the same thing as pressure regulators. I don't have a list to hand of all the regulated PCPs, most of the Daystates, some of the BSAs, and some others are regulated. I'm not the real PCP guru here, I'm just speaking in generalizations about PCP guns that I'm aware of. One of the real PCP honchos here could probably answer these questions better than me.
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    « Reply #14 on: April 25, 2008, 05:07:56 AM »



    That's ok Peak, youanswered my question and you are full of excellent generalization information which all of us read and take to heart. We here at the GTA are very fortunate to have you and many others like youself that share the information you work so hard to find or even byhands on experiences.


    Thanks again for sharing with all of us.



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