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General Discussion To Gateway To Airguns => Hunting Gate => : only1harry November 21, 2008, 07:01:27 AM
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My wife left after UPS arrived. I think she 's on her way to see a lawyer.. but at least it's one of a kind like all of Lee's (Lemak) custom guns are. Too bad he 's retired now.
I got an AF Condor .25 with custom oak stock and dual grips. It feels like a machine gun when I hold it. Real nice wood, laminated, and looks better in real life than the pics. The shoulder piece in the back is easily adjustable from left to right. It just swings around with a little force and it conforms to my body very well. I thought it might be hard to shoot from a bench with the front pistol grip but it's not. The previous owned a pump and got tired of pumping and said he has only put maybe 50 pellets through it. It's in excellent condition.
It has a worked (and polished) valve, custom top hat & stem, heavier hammer, spring, custom breech slide, etc. and it's supposed to do 90+fpe with 42gr pellets. All it needs is a shroud :-) It's also a lot lighter than I thought with all that oak on it. 7.4lbs with the tri-rail unscoped. It feels more balanced than my .22 Condor and the trigger is better. It might also be tuned. The power wheel moves very nice and without much effort, unlike my other Condor which also has a heavier spring. I think the main difference is that the .25 has been deburred and polished inside (the frame) everywhere and my Airhog Condor is not.
This gun is way too loud without a shroud, so I 'll have to wait for Talon Tunes to make me one before I start shooting it. .25cal pellets are huge! Its previous (and 1st) owner sent me a full tin of 31gr Kodiaks and I can't believe how much bigger than .22 Kodiaks they are. I snapped a pic of all 3 calibers for you guys. And just imagine I will be mostly shooting the larger 35gr EunJins and 42gr SamYangs, which I don't have yet. I need to buy more 2x4's for my backstops! hehe I 'll probably snap some better pics later. These came from Lee the tuner, but seriously the gun looks better in real life.
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now THATS A GUN!!! wow...what do you plan on shooting with that? elk?lmao! hows the accuracy?
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Great lookin' gun...! check out long island airguns for a shroud. joe has a guy that does custom work on airforce guns.
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I wish I could shoot Elk with it :-) It's still a tad below a .22LR's power, but it makes a bigger hole, hehe. But give me time, maybe I'll have it up to 100fpe. There are a couple of guys on the Talon forum that have 105+fpe .25 Condors. I 'm hoping to run into a coyote in the woods after deer season. Racoon will do fine too..
Actually all the people I 've talked to that are deer hunting right now about 3mi. up the road from here in a 5,000 acre state land, are saying there are seeing coyotes running around everywhere while they 're out there during the day. I think it's because the woods are filled with deer hunters and the coyotes have nowhere to go or probably deliberately staying away from their dens so they don't attract humans to their young. But every person I 've talked to so far said they have seen coyote during broad daylight, so I need some "firepower" when I get out there after deer season.
I 'm just catching up slowly to Tim and his 250-300fpe Dragon Slayer :-)
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That sure is a snazzy shooter Harry. Dang you have some good taste ole buddy. Now how many Condor's do you have?..:) I guess you will move up to one of them 50 cal rigs next. Then you can go Elk hunting all you want..:) Very very nice tool you bought Harry.
Gene
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Beautiful rifle Harry !!!!! My keyboard is all wet from my drooling :)
Enjoy the shooter buddy....
Wait,,,, do you hear that???? That's the sound of every tree rat within a 5 mile radius of your home leaving town :)
Jeff
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That is so funny Jeff..:) :)
Gene
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Thanks Gene. I can't get enough of it. I have it sitting here next to my deskall day and Ijust keep staring at it :) Well I 'm also protecting a very large $ investment. Cheaper than hiring a security guard or a getting a big safety deposit box :)
Jeff:
As long as your keyboard is wet just from saliva and nothing else (like soda) we 're cool ;)
I don't know.. noone has seen this gun yet except for me, unless the tree rats broke into my gun room overnight to see what was in that big ol' box the UPS man delivered :-) I bet they sent their friend the bandit to do their dirty work. They 're good about breaking in to homes. If the word got out, I 'm finished in this neighborhood. I 'll never be able to shoot another critteragain! Time to move..but where? maybe to a remote Island! one that's Long too! hehehe Don't worry, if therewere any critters left around here, they 're long gone.
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Wow! That thing is amazing. Enjoy it!
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thanks guys. I 'm going to take a few pics of both Condors together for comparison.
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She's FANTASTIC! Harry, she's got that Tommy gun thing going on for sure.:) A pinstripe suite and hat and you'll be taking em out like the nutter mob lol. I must say though you guy's with those black Talons etc. need some camo on em hehehe. Ed
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The gun came with the tri-rail installed in the front because the guy had a laser and a light mounted there. Not sure why he didn't use the regular rails.. It looks kind of cool with the tri-rail on the front frame - kinda like a modified AK-47 :-)
I relocated it where I 'll be using it for the scope. I took pics of both with the tri-rail in the front as it came, and on the regular position (may move it back all the way). For some reason the gun looks really cool (different?) with the tri-rail mounted on the front which I have never seen before. I also took some pics of the .22 & .25 together. Can't just have one. They 're like potato chips :)
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Dig those grips on her Harry but I hope that isn't the wife's side of the bed that you got your new baby on hehehe. Ed
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Thanks Ed.
That's just a single/twin bed in the guest room where I keep 1 gun cabinet. I may be sleeping in it tonight though :) The wife isn't happy at all but it looks like she figured out how to get back to me. She asked what I paid for it so of course I had to lie and take a couple of hundred $ off what I actually paid, and she said: ""how MUCH?? oh good, I 'll go shopping and spend the same""!! I really don't want her going on a shopping spree and waisting my $ on crap she only wears once or twice, but it's the only way to get myself out of the dog house I think.. I should have told her 300-400 bucks less. I wasn't thinking straight! :)
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That is one beautiful Condor Harry. If you shoot a tree rat with that are you going to be able to find any of it to take pics of? Nice Nice Nice......
Dan
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Thanks Dan. I 'd be happy if I just saw a tree rat. Unfortunately I have taken most of them or all. The neighbors are wondering what happened to their beloved squirrels that they were used to enjoy watching so much :)
It will be a while I think before I shoot anything in the backyard with this gun. It's just too loud. It needs a shroud and that will take some time to get. I don't even want to go to the woods with it like this. It will scare critters for at least 1/2 mile around :) I don't know, I think I 'm spoiled by the shrouded .22 Condor, but trust me, 90fpe is very LOUD. My ears are still recovering from shooting it indoors once without ear protection.
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The shroud that is on my Talon is amazing. It is a talon tune shroud. Did they do the shroud that is on your other Condor?
PS I like the tri-rail on top much better. Just a personal opinion. Looks cool.
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Hey Dan, no mine is an Airhog shroud. It's very close to the TalonTunes shroud, but the guy that sold me the .22 said he had both and the TT (your) shroud was just a small notch better. Most likely I 'll be getting a TT shroud too. You can't get the Airhog one unless you buy the gun from Airhog. No doubt the TT shrouds are the best around. You get what you pay for.. but considering that mine is a power modded Condor with 75+fpe, the Airhog shroud is working amazingly well. At 1,000fps and below, the gun is just as quiet as it can be. At 900fps and below you think the gun is broken and has no power. It's whisper quiet. I don't think it can get any more quiet. But even at 1,100fps it's only a couple of decibels higher, not a big difference but noticeable.
How long is your TT shroud? Do you have a 24" barrel on your Talon? The Airhog shroud on the .22 Condor extends 12.5" beyond the frame. I 'm thinking I may need 13"+ for this beast, but I don't want the gun to be too long either. I 'll be talking to Tony soon. We 've exchanged a couple of e-mails. He 's backed up with work as usual for 10-12wks. 3mos is a long time to wait but I 'll have to do it.
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I think its makes perfect sense that you've got pictures of that rig on your bed, cuz its one *_*_*_*_*_*y beast! It's airgun porn at it's best!
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As Ed (Shadow) said.....that new Condor looks like a Tommy gun.....alll you need is to add a drum underneath. Beautiful powerful gun.....feel sorry for the squirrels though if/when they get hit by it. heh heh
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Harry:
I have this mental picture of you squirrel hunting, whipping that custom Condor out of a slide trombone case, and with your best Jimmy Cagney impersonation saying something like "You dhirtty rhatzzzz" before opening fire. That is one unique, fine looking air rifle, sir.
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Hey Harry, I have the 18" barrel in my Talon right now. The barrel extends roughly six inches outside the frame. The shroud is slightly over 14.5 inches long. I am amazed how light the thing is. Just doesn't seem like there is much to them.
I also have the 12" with the SS cap, and the guy I bought it from gave me a homemade shroud for the 12" barrel.
Dan L
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Now thats two pretty to take hunting yer be
frightened of marking it.
Really really nice for a star wars style shooter.
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That is sweeeeeeeet harry! How about a pic of that custom shoulder stock?
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Thanks guys.
Kiwi: Star Wars shooter? Ok now that's different.. hehe
William: Here 's another close up pic of the "butt stock" but I can take more if you want.
Now the cool thing about this is that the entire piece at the end in the back and under the tank swings around the tank so you can adjust it, in case the tank does not screw on straight or over time it gets tighter and changes position. It's really cool. I also think he carefully weighted the shoulder stock and the wood around the bottle to balance the gun better. It feels very well balanced and when I hold it on my open palm from the bottom (1 hand) in the middle right under the forend piece (behind the front grip) it balances perfectly on my hand. He added I think about 3/4lb to the back with the wood to achieve better balance. It's just feels a lot more balanced than my .22 Condor in the shooting position off hand. I 'm still not sure how he wrapped an oak shell around the tank but then again I don't much about wood work. It must have taken a lot of glue I would imagine. This stock is kind of permanent on the tank but I think these tanks last 15yrs or more. They 're very well made tanks. The valve can easily be replaced at any time.
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Just too nice for words. The wood covering the tank is really unique and beautiful. Makes me think about something like that for my Talon SS.
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I have a better idea of how he did it now that your telling me that the stock is sort of permently attached to the tank. The wood work is awesome, and congrate on the new weapon.
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Harry:
do you understand that your air rifle addiction cost you twice as much! you pay for the air gun and your wife spends the same, SOO it is $1 x 2 persons = $2 LOL
nice to see you happy and enthusiastic again with a pellet air gun, you deserve to be happy and that is a Truly beautiful air gun
warren
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Harry I will say it again that is a good looking Condor . I wish you the best of luck with it .Marvin
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How does that song go. "One is a Lonely Number"...:)
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Thanks guys.
Gene: Are you on my wife's side now? :-)
Warren: Glad to see you here buddy!
I 'm happy with all my airguns actually. If I 'm not happy with one, I 'll get rid of it, fix it or have it tuned, etc. So far I 'm just happy with the way this new gun looks and feels. I have no idea how it shoots. I shot it once and my ears were ringing. It's too loud for backyard shooting and very close to rimfire power. I 'll be ordering a shroud but will head to the woods with it hopefully soon to try and sight it in. I'm thinking of putting a Simmons 44 Mag. on it that I 've had sitting here for a while. Have you heard from Tim at all?
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Harry:
you are special to me and I have been following you in the GTA forum for a long time, since you drifted from the DW forum. never posted to you just followed your posts. we go back a LOOONG way and will always be in touch, take care and enjoy your new toy. remember the Bigger the boy the bigger the TOY and that is a big Toy you have
Tim is MIA since 14 Nov
Warren
PS: that Talon in .25 cal. IS NOT a squirrel air gun LOL, it will take anything that walks in 4 paws anywhere between 25 and 75 pounds at 30 yards, Do you have Coyotes in NY???
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Thanks buddy.. I sure do have Coyotes around here and lots of them! I see them at night a lot not far from the house. Closest sighting (a pair) was about a mile west of here. This is one of the reasons I got the .25 Condor. I was told by several deer hunters that they are seeing them in broad daylight all over the place while they were scouting the 5,000 acre State land hunting grounds (about 3mi. from my house) in the last couple of weeks.
Last week I was scouting roads and entry ways into these 5,000 state owned acres. I noticed many cars parked on the side of the road for like 1.5mi. They were between 100-150yds apart parked by signs that were marked with #'s & letters. It was late afternoon and didn't wait long until hunters started coming back to their cars so I started talking to a few of them. Those signs are designated hunting areas reserved for people that applied for them early in the Fall. Anyway these guys were out there scouting their assigned hunting grounds getting ready for deer season. I got to speak to 4 of them and later to one of my neighbors that deer hunts and 4 out of 5 said they spotted coyotes while walking through the woods during the day. That means there's a good # of them in those woods and I have a chance of running into them while hunting cotton tail or squirrels. What better weapon to have with me than a 90+fpe Condor? :-)
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Harry:
YOTES are a challenge, not easy to find or turn up side down. they are nocturnal animals and very intelligent, more so than the common dog. anything under 1 year old is easy but as they age they are full of tricks
your air gun will not be a problem with a yote it will be your scope since they are active from dawn to dusk just like the Vampires' LOL need a special scope for dim light hunting
don't even think you are getting close to them at 20 yards, they will know where you are before you are 100 yards away
you can't call them or bait them, they are that bright compared to other's like the Wolfe. suburban yotes are more bold and easy to bag as they will come as close as you have your trash can next to the house
I bet you; before you get your first yote you will have put down 1,000 squirrels LOL
good luck and get one for ME
warren