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General Discussion To Gateway To Airguns => Hunting Gate => : Crock Pot December 12, 2008, 03:05:43 PM
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I recently tested my Gamo 440 over the work Chrony ( I think i might be getting one for Christmas but could not wait) I an average of about 820FPS with JSB exact .177 which works out to be pretty much 12fls at the muzzle. I think I went a bit heavy with the spring tar but it is very consistant and accurate. I was wondering with well placeed shot what distance would it be realistic to drop a rabbit? and also is this enough power to tackle feral cats??
Go on my trip in a few days,
Thanks,
Rob
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yep on rabbits with boiler or brain shots, feral cats may need a direct pop to the brain housing group, them dudes are tough
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Thanks for that, What distance assuming it hits in the right spot?
Rob
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My 1.77 Geox's pop bunnys out to 50m with head shots
And I would not think it is putting out anymore than 12ftlbs.
Ps..cats die if shot at point blank range
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lol @ cats i wouldnt try shootin over 30yds with 12lbs at the muzzle unless you can stick it right in their eyeball, lol.
I took all my bunnies at 25-30 heart/lung pass-throughs with my Quest .177 pre-tune
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With shot placement and the right pellet for the job 40+ yards. I've dropped "P-dog" (Prairie Dog) and rabbit at that range . I'm a fusebox target guy and the P-dogs have a tougher hide then bunnies. Ed
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I got an Evolution 12ft lb gas-ram,,,this is not my typical airgun,, 20ft lbs or better is more my taste,,,,,,,,untill I started to shoot my Evolution,,,,I was amaze what can be done with 12 ft lbs....
BTW,,Ed Shadow talks about shot placement but he don't tell ya,blindfolded,two broken arms & a sling-shot he takes down bunnies at 92 yards with head-shots,,,,,LOL!!!!!! Some people like Big Ed Shadow were born for this,,,,other city slickers like myself were born to..........well 'm not going there..LOL!!!!!!!
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Welcome to the limits imposed on us UK airgunners!
Anything more than 12 fpe & we need a class 1 firearms cert' , the land has to be passed by the police as suitable & you need to show purpose & need & in all respects it's treated as a firearm.
For 12 fpe in .177 up to 50 yds max for headshot on bunnies & nearer to 35-40 yds in .22 would probably accepted by the majority as reasonable limits for humane kills.
Time to sharpen your accuracy & fieldskills to "put a little English on it" LOL.
Regards from the cuz' acrross the pond.
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Cottontail rabbits up to 40yds with head shots (or heart shot) should not be a problem but as you know it's all about shot placement. Squirrels have a tougher hide believe it or not and more muscle mass so don't underestimate them.
I would not shoot a feral cat unless it was inside 20yds with a 12fpe gun. Their skull is tougher than a bunny's and lets not forget their "9 lives" :-)
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I've got this Hunter Elite that initially(post tune) was doing 920-930fps. It has since dropped significantly but I have to respect its integrity. It's doing about 12 foot pounds now but is fabulously accurate with minimal recoil! The local squirrel populus have sounded an APB on this gun! It wouldn't be the first time I've shot this gun to have the pellet enter one eye and exit the other(depending on angle) at 25 yards.
Then again... within 30 yards those tree squirrels don't have a chance. If more power is needed there's always the .22 350 Mag!
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Thanks everyone, that answered my question, my gun grouped 1 1/4 inch at 50 yrds yesterday with JSB Exact. (Still day with rest). so up to 50 I feel confident. Hopefully have some pics soon.
Rob
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Looking forward to the pics Rob.
1.25" groups is a bit too much and risky with a 12fpe gun so I would not recommend 50yds (unless it's a bird) because with a lower powered gun like that you need to be as accurate as you can with fur. Pick your targets carefuly and move in close to where you feel you can place that pellet within 0.5".
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Shhhhhhhh joe, don't tell no one but I've been painting red tip's on little rock's for my slingshot lol poor mans Predator hehehehe. Ed
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only1harry - 12/13/2008 6:57 PM Looking forward to the pics Rob. 1.25" groups is a bit too much and risky with a 12fpe gun so I would not recommend 50yds (unless it's a bird) because with a lower powered gun like that you need to be as accurate as you can with fur. Pick your targets carefuly and move in close to where you feel you can place that pellet within 0.5".
Concure !!! I was taught 1" or less from any position at the target distance...(http://../jscripts/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/smiley-laughing.gif)
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Ok guys, I am also a bowhunter with most my pigs being shot between 10 - 25 yrds so stalking it is. When I did the Chrony test i was 5 yrds back from the Chrony and got 820fps so it probably is going a bit better than 820 at the muzzle. I am not sure how much MV would drop in only 5 yrds though. I will stalk in close to be sure though -you cant beat a clean one shot kill.
Rob
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Yup...They deserve a fast kill....Ive passed up alot of shots at the far end of my neighbors yard because of uncertain holds and impact points..I only take headshots so it's even more nerver racking...
Kittys can be noisy,smelly and a bit of a cleanup....Outside only !!!!!
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I used to hunt squirrels with a Crosman 2100 flinging Copperhead pellets at 725 fps. My uncle used to kill feral cats with a Crosman 760 flinging BBs. I killed a large, vicious chow mix that made the mistake of growling and baring it's teeth, with it's ears laid back while approaching me in my own yard.
Seems the Brits do a fair bit of bunnywhacking with 12 ft lb air rifles.
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Yup 12lb is not weak at all..I used to pity the Brits till I found out my CFX was doing 12...Shut me up.
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Yeah! I could probably get it a bit quicker if I took it down and took some of the excess tar off the spring but it is smooth and quiet and accurate so I will leave well enough alone. Thanks for the responces guys.
Rob