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Gateway To Product Reviews => Pellet Reviews => : Schmidty25 December 15, 2008, 03:33:28 PM
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I have found my new favorite pellet. My G1 Extreme just loves these things. From 50 feet it shoots nickel sized groups. I get them at Wal Mart for $6.46 for a 500 rd Tin. You cant beat that. These pellets expand well.
For better expansion I started using a thin razor blade to create a crosshair effect on the front of the bullet to allow for more expansion and it worked very well.
I also think that the gun is getting alot more accurate with time. Just wanted to say these pellets are awesome
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They are darn good pellet's, my TAC1 Extreme like's them also along with the Predator's.:) Ed
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Great all-around plinker for sure but plenty enough for hunting too. For the price, you get alot more for the money compared to the other 'premier' brands of pellets! tjk
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I think that they are pretty good pellets also. I have found that, if you stretch the distance out to 35yds. or so and shoot like 20 shot groups, you will start to see 2 to 3 distinct groups within the 20 shot group. I have not weighed and sorted pellets with these before, but this will usually eliminate this occurence. I only weigh and sort the pellets that are used for long range, because that is a couple of hours of my life I will never get back. If you ever get into competition sorting can be the difference between 1st place and 10th. With that being stated, I wouldn't hesitate to use unsorted CP HPs for normal hunting distances.
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The premiers fit very nice in the G1. I have a tin of Crossman Premier Super Points and they Are extremely tight in the barrel and are HORRIBLE!!! I also have the deystroyers they are great for shorter range. Longer range they lose too much momentum and drop more than other pellets. I am going to post up some pics of the expansion into paper. with and without the relief cuts
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Bought some of these last night at Wal-Mart opened them up and found several Destroyers.Called Crossman this morning not to complain but just to let them know.The CSR ask for my name and address and told me she shipping a can of each to me!Best custumer service that I have had from any company.Ill be buying more crossman products.
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That is awesome! I haven't had any tins like that yet? Hopefully I get one so I can get a few free tins. lol I went and bought 2 more tins yesterday.
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wow.
i actually had the exact same thing happen minus the call to crossman... i haed i think 3 random other pellets in one tin... only once... and never heard of it anywhere else... I ended up getting just the regular domed however, not destroyers. i'v shot mabey 5-6 tins of these however, i love CPHP's. my Gamo shoots them well, at least well enough, i killed a Duck that had a broken wing from about 125 yards... now it took me like 4 shots to hit him, but the terminal performance at that range out of my Gamo Big Cat, was just fantastic. one shot (hit) and it was toast. did two, 1 wing flaps, and ceased to exist in the mortal world.
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Pics in order are
1. Crossman premier hp with expansion cuts
2. Regular pellet shot into newspaper
3. group of 4 regulars shot into newspaper
4. Pellet cut for expansion shot into newspaper
5. group of 4 cut pellets shot into the paper
I am going to see if cutting the pellets effects the accuracy. as far as I can tell there is a very minimal effect on accuracy.
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I would definitely say that the cutting for expansion makes a significant difference. Please keep us posted when you start the accuracy comparison tests.
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I am buying a tin of CP HP for my TF-89. Will chime in when I use them, but been hearing from alot of people they are great pellets.
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Yep, that expansion looks pretty impressive.
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i dont think that their is a big diffence in accuracy, if any, just wacked a squirrel 35 yards away a couple of days ago using this idea, (cause i got the idea off of you), he only dropped 5 feet, and never kicked, i cut mine all the way down to the very bottom of the hollow point
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Is this in .177 or .22?
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they look like their .22's, look a little big to be .177
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Did some kenetic energy tests with phone book using the cut ones and also with the regulars CPHP using my big cat 1200
Temp:34 F elev. 860 feet time:3:45 EST
type- page pellet found on- page were kenetic energy stops
cut- 17- 225
reg- 261- 347
25 yards
cut- never found- 247
reg- never found- 579
35 yards
cut- 81- 340
cut- 115- 395
reg- 177- 509
reg- Never found - 241
45 yards
reg- 249- 403
reg- 239- 405
cut- 257- 393
cut- 183- 379
point blank
i will put pictures up when i get my camera (probably monday), and if i can figure out how to put them on
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1shotwander - 1/2/2009 11:27 PM
i dont think that their is a big diffence in accuracy, if any, just wacked a squirrel 35 yards away a couple of days ago using this idea, (cause i got the idea off of you), he only dropped 5 feet, and never kicked, i cut mine all the way down to the very bottom of the hollow point
yea I noticed that if I cut all the way to the bottom of the hollow point. the head of the bullet expanded and would be very tight in the barrel and one I couldn't get in the barrel. For some guns this could be better or worse. The deeper you cut the grooves the more expansion you will see. I haven't had the time to hunt . That is awesome, did it leave a large hole?
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Schmidty25 - 1/3/2009 5:43 PM
1shotwander - 1/2/2009 11:27 PM
i dont think that their is a big diffence in accuracy, if any, just wacked a squirrel 35 yards away a couple of days ago using this idea, (cause i got the idea off of you), he only dropped 5 feet, and never kicked, i cut mine all the way down to the very bottom of the hollow point
yea I noticed that if I cut all the way to the bottom of the hollow point. the head of the bullet expanded and would be very tight in the barrel and one I couldn't get in the barrel. For some guns this could be better or worse. The deeper you cut the grooves the more expansion you will see. I haven't had the time to hunt . That is awesome, did it leave a large hole?
the entry wound was small like normal, and the exit wound looked like a 25 cal, the thing was huge, i also noticed that some of mine wouldnt fix in the breach eighter
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1shotwander - 1/3/2009 5:31 PM
Did some kenetic energy tests with phone book using the cut ones and also with the regulars CPHP using my big cat 1200
Temp:34 F elev. 860 feet time:3:45 EST
type- page pellet found on- page were kenetic energy stops
cut- 17- 225
reg- 261- 347
25 yards
cut- never found- 247
reg- never found- 579
35 yards
cut- 81- 340
cut- 115- 395
reg- 177- 509
reg- Never found - 241
45 yards
reg- 249- 403
reg- 239- 405
cut- 257- 393
cut- 183- 379
point blank
i will put pictures up when i get my camera (probably monday), and if i can figure out how to put them on
The pellets are .177
I also had similar results. The cut pellets wouldn't travel as far into the phone book as the Regular hollow points.
Now I am going to have to go hunting and test this out. lol
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Schmidty25 - 1/3/2009 5:51 PM
1shotwander - 1/3/2009 5:31 PM
Did some kenetic energy tests with phone book using the cut ones and also with the regulars CPHP using my big cat 1200
Temp:34 F elev. 860 feet time:3:45 EST
type- page pellet found on- page were kenetic energy stops
cut- 17- 225
reg- 261- 347
25 yards
cut- never found- 247
reg- never found- 579
35 yards
cut- 81- 340
cut- 115- 395
reg- 177- 509
reg- Never found - 241
45 yards
reg- 249- 403
reg- 239- 405
cut- 257- 393
cut- 183- 379
point blank
i will put pictures up when i get my camera (probably monday), and if i can figure out how to put them on
The pellets are .177
I also had similar results. The cut pellets wouldn't travel as far into the phone book as the Regular hollow points.
Now I am going to have to go hunting and test this out. lol
i think that you can hear them a lot better when they hit, you can clearly hear the hit, if your far enough away
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I had purchased a tin back in 2004. They used to come with a nice foam sponge in the bottom and top of the can. My S1K loved them. I recently bought two new tins which did not have the sponges any more. The new pellets are darker than the old ones. (coating) My new Whisper does not like these pellets. They fight really tight in the bore, and I can not shoot good groups. I turbo tuned my S1K, and gave it to my brother for christmas. Darn it!
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just did 30-50 yard shooting an damn my big cat groups better then i thought
 http://s473.photobucket.com/albums/rr99/hexershoot/
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Funny, but I can't seem to get these pellets to shoot worth a darn in any of my three air rifles. My Beeman 1024 loves the Crosman Premier wadcutters, but hates the hollow points. My Remington Airmaster doesn't like either one, and both of these pellets just fall into the breach with the loosest fit of any pellets I've tried.
jon