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Gateway To Product Reviews => Pellet Reviews => : johnp January 17, 2009, 01:44:47 PM
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RWS SUPERDOME , RWS H POINT or JSB PREDATOR PELLETS .22cal
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John,,any of them will be good,,The Predators are strictly for hunting,,,you should see what pellet your gun performs the best with,,I always liked the super domes,,,Beeman Kodiaks went well with my 350 & hit with a tremendous impact. :)
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Joe do you think the predators are too heavy @ 16.2gr i've been told don't use anything heaver than 15 gr. and no lighter than .14gr.
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I use the Predator in my CFX.22, she hammer's raccoons and possum, refer to my "ALBUM" for it's result's. There is a guideline pellet weight wise but the CFX hasn't hiccuped once with them and I only use this shooter for night hunt's. joe has good advice on the other pellet's. Ed
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John,,14g-15g is the standard with a low-mid level springer,,,the 350 is a magnum springer & the 16.2g are not gonna be a problem,,,the .22 Kodiaks are 21g,,you'll be fine with your 350!!!
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Joe/Cuz,
I hope you don't take offense if i add my $.02 here after your reply.
I bought a .22 B-26 and a Beeman Bearcub .177 a while back and began researching this very topic since they were my 1st springers.
JohnP, I don't have the spring wire diameter for your rifle in my notes.
Last summer I found some postings by one of the most prominent AG tuners in the U.S.
I'll trim it down here to save space:
A) Pellet size selection is largely based on spring wire diameter. Too light a pellet can fry the seal and shorten spring life. Basically, the spring needs a little weight to push against.
B) On the flip side, pellets that are too heavy can also cause shortened spring life. He states this is NOT a Golden Rule but a general caution.
C) The pellet/spring diameter relationship is more critical for .177 than larger calibers.
(He mentions RWS/Diana Magnums but not the 350 as having .128 springs.
Other side notes I noted:
Spring wire diameter .128 seems to be the magic number for heavy/light pellets.
I scoured other forums and based on my notes, whoever told you to use 14gr-15gr pellets was very close!
For .128 my notes say to use 14gr-16.5gr in .22
I personally have used the pellets you mentioned in your original post in my B-26.
The Super-H Point is basically the lightest side of the scale.
The Superdome would be good to about medium ranges, weight should be good.
The Predator Polymags weigh approx. 16gr so they are about the max.
This would all be based on a diameter of .128 If you can get that info, please post.
If the weights work for you, then the next thing is which one groups the most accurately?
Using my B-26 on squirrels, I can't honestly say that Predators are always decisively better than Domes. I've hammered 2 of them thru an arm and shoulder and coming to rest on the far side.
One was at 15 yds and the other at a measured 28 yds.
I would also humbly recommend Benjamin Domes in the black can, Winchester (Gamo in disguise) Domes, Gamo Hunters, or Crosman Premier Domes.
I've used all of these but the Crosmans for pest control.
I hope this helps some folks. :)
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I like JSB exact jumbo with my .22 Diana. I know they're pushing the weight rule at 15.8 grains, but I think the thinner and softer skirts are more forgiving when travelling through the barrel. Same with the Preds. But like Joe said, preds are for hunting strickly. And I have recorded number of BT's with the Exacts!! The Beeman/H&N FTS's are a very accurate pellet too. There's my two cents!!! Good Luck, tjk
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I have done some test's with the RWS Super H, Predators, and CPHP's. I have found that the Predators had the LEAST amount of penetration. Yes, the Least. I couldn't believe it. The RWS Super H expanded the most, and penetration more then the predator did. The CPHP had the most penetration with the least amount of expansion. I shot all 3 pellets out of the same rifle, from the same exact distance, one after another, into the same piece of stairnose wood(Oak). Now I know small game is not as tough as oak, so this might not be a fair test for pellet selection, but none the less, it was fun to do! :D But the predators were the most accurate by far out of any pellet tested with my rifle. The shot ragged hole after ragged hole. I also shot at a metal can approx 25 yards away, the CPHP penetrate the can, the RWS Super H put a big dent into it, and the predators also just put a dent into it. If I had a nutter in my sights and had a selection of pellets to use, I would use the Predators only because they are so accurate.
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Squirrelhunter,
I would have to agree largely with your findings as well.
I've actually been a little disappointed with the Predators on several occasions.
I don't think I'll be buying more but I believe they sell an HP w/out the poly tip.
I'll try a can of those next time.
I use the Benjamin Domes in the black can. I think they are relabeled Crosmans. Accuracy is good and I use them for larger vermin and on fur at longer distance for the added penetration and accuracy.
For short to moderate distance I like Gamo or (Gamo)Winchester Domes or as you said, the RWS HP.
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USNCOP
I agree with you I've tried the predators and wasn't too impressed BUT I do love the RWS superdomes
they fly real nice and are accurate PS thanks for the info in your other post.
john p