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PCP - HPA - C02 Gate => PCP DarkSiders Forum => : Leadhead May 04, 2009, 07:33:30 AM
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Can you store a PCP with, say, 2000psi still in it ??? Or do you have to empty it everytime you finish shooting for the day ?? Probably a stupid question, but it's all Greek to me........
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It's best to store it charged. Helps keep moisture out and protect the seals....
Jeff
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Yup,What Jeff said... :)
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Thanks for the quick replies.......much appreciated !! I have one of the reservation codes with Crosman, and I'll probably start with a hand pump. I just didn't want to start from 0psi everytime I want to shoot............Thanks, again....
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You`ll get over that pump soon enough!Hope ya don`t smoke!
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That first fill from 0 to 3000 is gonna be a workout !!!!!! :)
AFter that it's not to bad if you are just topping off the tank....
but SCUBA is much better :)
Jeff
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How much should I expect to pay for a SCUBA tank ?? I imagine it would be cheaper to use a pump to start.......
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I found a new tank, 88 cu ft, for $200 and tax as I recall. I bought an "ugly tank" -- aluminum with no exterior finish, though.
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Thanks for the info, Tommy. Sounds like my kind of deal......no frills. Anyway, "Beauty's in the eye of the Beerholder".
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Get`em around here used for $100......... :p
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Yeah, I picked mine up used for $100 ,,,, works really well.
Jeff
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I actually bought 2 for $150,dealer wanted to move`em,couldn`t pass up a deal..taped off the labels and valve and bedliner painted em,good to go............
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frist see if you have any scuba or paintball shops close to you and see what presure they can fill too, then look into what tank you want.
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For that matter, what's the best lube to use with a PCP?
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Divers silicone is good.... you can pick it up at any good scuba shop.
Jeff
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Friend of mine told me that with SCBA tanks, most of the used ones for sale are either damaged or lived out their life expectancy. So, I guess it would be better to go with a used SCUBA tank. I checked Ebay and there are plenty of them, but it seems like an item that is best seen before bought.............I think..
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Depending on the fill requirements of your PCP is what should determine what tank to get. If your fill rate is 3300-3500 a scuba tank will not fit the bill. Most scuba stores can fill to 3000-3200. Scuba tanks are very heavy and bulky, but they are cheaper. I chose a small carbon fiber tank, 44 cu ft, lightweight and not bulky and fills to 4500 psi. My fill rate on my Cyclone is 3000 psi. On low power I get 2800 shots and on high power (32fpe) I get 1750 shots. The biggest drawback to a CF tanks is getting it filled to 4500. Make sure before you buy one of these tanks you can get it filled. Unless you live in the middle of nowhere you should not have a problem getting the tank filled. I use a paintball shop. Cost $4.00. Joe Brancato can set you up with everything you need. My setup cost $375 but well worth it to me. Always store you PCP with air. Good luck. PelletPaul
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tat2dman - 5/4/2009 8:05 PM
I actually bought 2 for $150,dealer wanted to move`em,couldn`t pass up a deal..taped off the labels and valve and bedliner painted em,good to go............
Not sure if the bedliner paint job was a good idea, they might not pass the visual next time if the inspector is cautious about the coating inadvertently hiding hairline cracks.
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Nah he uses a emf meter to check for cracks,my scuba man is full service,hydro`s and all,I did make sure to asak first no said no problem,some are more picky tho...Barry
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Leadhead - 5/4/2009 5:37 PM
How much should I expect to pay for a SCUBA tank ?? I imagine it would be cheaper to use a pump to start.......
Around here dive shops were looking for about $120 more or less depending on condition for used tanks. I ended up buying a new 80 or 88 cf aluminum tank with recent visual and hydro for $190 or 180 plus tax, with 10 free fills. The free fills made the new tank about the same price as a used one--if I ever use the 10 fills as I haven't shot much at all.
And don't forget you'll need a fill yoke for the tank, about $70 to $130.
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tat2dman - 5/5/2009 12:37 PM
Nah he uses a emf meter to check for cracks,my scuba man is full service,hydro`s and all,I did make sure to asak first no said no problem,some are more picky tho...Barry
Glad to hear that, the shop where I bought my aluminum tank mentioned about possible paint problems on visuals.
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OK......what's a fill yoke.......and I hope the yoke's not on me !!!! Paul..... Does Joe Brancato have a website ???
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Here ya go,Airguns of Arizona sells these............
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Leadhead - 5/5/2009 3:51 PM
OK......what's a fill yoke.......and I hope the yoke's not on me !!!! Paul..... Does Joe Brancato have a website ???
Some examples http://www.pyramydair.com/a/PCP_and_CO2_accs/PCP/Clamps/82
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Ive got this one for sale...18"6000 PSI hose,5000 PSI guage,no issues,$50 shipped,USPS MO Only,no issues just upgraded!
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Here is Joe's website: Joe Brancato <>< . He is a good honest, Christian man. E-mail him and tell him what you need. Paul
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I just got an email from Crosman letting me know that my .22 Marauder has shipped. Is there a tutorial here on the forum, or anywhere else, that I could look at to understand how the tanks & gauges etc. work for a PCP ??? I think this would be the best thing for me to grasp how the whole system functions together. Plus, I feel like I'm being a real pain in the a$$ asking so many questions. I really do appreciate all the helpful information everyone has shared with me !!!...........Raoul
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have you ordered a pump yet? if not I would go with the Hill pump just because my second benji pump is on it's last leg and the Hill pumps are serviceable.Pumping the disco to 2000psi is a pice of cake but if you plan to fill tha Marauder to 3000psi you might want to go with a scuba tank,it's just hook up the foster fitting make sure the bleeder is closed ease open the valve watch the guage and stop at th desiered fill pressure open the bleeder disconect the fill adapter and start shooting!One thing though you will need a tank at a higher pressure than what you fill to,a gun that has a fill pressure of 3000 psi will not be filled by a tank with only 3000psi in it!
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Thanks, Gary........that helps.
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I've also recently seen a video by Tom Gaylord on proper technique when charging a PCP using a handpump. I don't remember exactly where, but it might have been on Pyramyd's website.
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Rolls-Royce - 5/9/2009 12:49 PM
I've also recently seen a video by Tom Gaylord on proper technique when charging a PCP using a handpump. I don't remember exactly where, but it might have been on Pyramyd's website.
That's where I've seen it before, it was linked in some of the PCP pump pages. Haven't checked for almost a year though so don't know if it's still in those locations.
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This is an excellent source of information,,,thanks guys. I do have a question that wasn't answered in this thread. I did get tired of pumping by hand,,,,turns out I am shooting more than I anticipated - so I am wanting to buy a SCUBA tank. My fill pressure is 3000,,,I've only seen one used tank since I've been looking and it only is rated at 3000.
Here is the question: How much pressure rating should I be looking for? Just anything over 3000?
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I just bought a new fiberglass 88 cu ft 4500 psi tank with gauge, hose, and female Foster fitting from Steve at Pomona airguns, but Joe Brancato has used 4500 psi tanks and new fill adapter setups for those on tighter budgets. Steve's a great guy and is local to me, so I went with his setup. He also carries new carbon fiber tanks.