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General Discussion To Gateway To Airguns => Back Room => : RedFeather June 03, 2009, 02:26:28 AM

: Important heads up for change in Michigan law regarding sound moderators
: RedFeather June 03, 2009, 02:26:28 AM
Here's a link to Bob's post on the Yellow:

http://www.network54.com/Forum/79537/message/1244031477/Bye+Bye+to+Whispers+and+what+else+in+Michigan--
: Re: Important heads up for change in Michigan law regarding sound moderators
: gamo2hammerli June 03, 2009, 04:03:01 AM
The crackdown is starting!!!!!!  Big Bro's Watching.
: RE: Important heads up for change in Michigan law regarding sound moderators
: airgunandy June 03, 2009, 05:09:45 AM
This topic isn't too political for this location is it? Most all discussions of gun laws end up getting very political.  :D
: Why I originally posted this on the Air Gun Gate
: RedFeather June 03, 2009, 05:10:55 AM
A) Not everyone reads the Back Room.  (I didn't for a long time because I thought it was an R&P forum.)

B) It's not about the "S" word.  These guns have moderators which have passed the BATF test.
: RE: Important heads up for change in Michigan law regarding sound moderators
: RedFeather June 03, 2009, 05:12:37 AM
I didn't intend to create a politcal right/wrong debate.  As the original poster implied, it is what it is and, if you don't want to have your $500+ Marauder confiscated in Detroit, you need to be aware.
: RE: Important heads up for change in Michigan law regarding sound moderators
: airgunandy June 03, 2009, 06:47:02 AM
Yes, it is getting bad for even airguns. I think in someplaces any airgun over.18 caliber is also considered a firearm. A .22 caliber Marauder owner could be in double trouble.
: Re: Important heads up for change in Michigan law regarding sound moderators
: Bentong June 03, 2009, 06:50:13 AM
Shouldn't this need to go to sound moderator forum or the law forum?
: Re: Important heads up for change in Michigan law regarding sound moderators
: derekmcminn June 03, 2009, 09:22:23 AM
Michigan should worry more about its bankrupt auto industry
and be less concerned about how loud the bark of a BB gun is.
: RE: Important heads up for change in Michigan law regarding sound moderators
: daveshoot June 03, 2009, 09:54:56 AM


I think it was an important bit of information for legitimate airgun buyers because it affects perfectly legal factory equipment on well-known mainstream brands.



If we start talking about the device in question, I believe that is over the line (of forum rules, etc.). But as a straight-up announcement of a state government policy change for mainstream products I think it is very good info to have. It was deleted on the other site where this was posted.

: RE: Important heads up for change in Michigan law regarding sound moderators
: RedFeather June 03, 2009, 04:57:56 PM
Hard to believe this was deleted on the site I linked to.  Here's another link on the Dianawerk:

http://www.network54.com/Forum/184474/thread/1244033018/last-1244075697/%26quot%3B(MuzzleBrakes)%26quot%3BBye+Bye+to+Whispers+and+what+else+in+Michigan--

Let's face it, this is not specifically about "moderators" as it's about some poor schmuck who just shelled out over five bills for a new Marauder which he can't shoot (much less legally own) because he lives in Michigan.  Someone ought to ask Crosman what they think of this.  That's a significant slice out of their sales market.
: RE: Important heads up for change in Michigan law regarding sound moderators
: snatch June 04, 2009, 08:33:31 AM
I wonder what should one do if they own something like this?
: RE: Important heads up for change in Michigan law regarding sound moderators
: daveshoot June 04, 2009, 10:47:23 AM


Be vewy, vewy quiet.





:-)

: Re: Important heads up for change in Michigan law regarding sound moderators
: Dust June 04, 2009, 04:38:02 PM
Get a better MuzzleBrake so that no one can hear you shoot?
: Re: Important heads up for change in Michigan law regarding sound moderators
: geewhiz380 June 07, 2009, 04:31:16 AM
this is rediculious for a.g owners anywhere cause its gonna be a dommino effect. if they allow it then we all will be struck by that same law but do u think the owners of these companies care no its not there fault ,but its sad cause all these taxes we pay and these r the laws they come up with ,im going on a expedition and discover some land for airgunners ......
: The NRA currently has an appeal in the Supreme Court Challenging State' overrides of Federal and Co
: Rixtrix June 07, 2009, 05:53:22 PM
The 7th Circuit Court has ruled, due to precedence, that cities' and states' laws can override the 2nd Amendment ruling about personal firearms. The NRA has taken this to the Supreme Court and this can also apply to States banning such things as manufacturer supplied barrel additions of any kind. Want to help? Join the NRA and call your Congressperson(s) to express your support of our 2nd Amendment right to guns of all kinds.

RicG