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General Discussion To Gateway To Airguns => China Gate => : JOHNNY QUEST June 03, 2009, 08:55:02 AM
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Is this gun a clone of the hw pistol.. If so how are they as far as shootin and hittin what ya just shot at?????
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I have never read a good thing about this pistol. If you look back in the archives, dank was trying to make one worthwhile, no luck. I have researched it before, and "universal scorn" would sum it up.
I hope to stand corrected. If there was a mod that made it decent, I would be happy.
Ever looked at IZH-53? I have one of those, and for a cheap but large pistol, it is very accurate, although very low powered. They are around 50 bucks, I think.
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Well I should have know a 29.00 pistol was gunna be junk from the start ,,,but I am a glutten for new guns...
The hw is 259.00 and I know BAM coppies them. just thought they did a good job on this one as well... I know my BAM b-20's are super great weapons and very inexpensive...
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There is similarities with Diana 3.
http://www.gunspares.co.uk/showcatimage.asp?id=24379
I like this pistol, especially after mods.
Good build quality (really different than worst S2 pistols), synthetic seals, very heavy trigger, not so good plastic grip frame, no scope rail
Geco 7gr 364 fps
RWS Super-H-Point 354 fps
JSB Exact Heavy 282 fps
Crosman Premier Field Target 7,9 gr 312 fps
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Go ahead and send it to me breaux. You won't like it.
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I think almost every factory in China makes a version of that pistol, saw one at the Xisico plant, I have two made at West Lake which might be that factory. I think Industry makes them also, so we can add Bam to the list, the last ones I got were $10 at Compasseco on their closeout of them...
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Some pictures of mine:
(http://img398.imageshack.us/img398/3778/dscf09253cs3.jpg)
(http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/8858/dscf09852em2.jpg)
(http://img93.imageshack.us/img93/6903/dscf10052pi4.jpg)
It is not rust. Remains of the mould.
(http://img374.imageshack.us/img374/7340/dscf10432ul6.jpg)
(http://img390.imageshack.us/img390/8179/dscf10522th5.jpg)
(http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/8273/dscf10612zh3.jpg)
(http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/568/dscf10592cx0.jpg)
(http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/4637/dscf11262mf1.jpg)
(http://img53.imageshack.us/img53/7127/dscf10822ja4.jpg)
(http://img53.imageshack.us/img53/5861/dscf10832wc0.jpg)
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Thats why you take the El Cheapo's apart before you use them. Not all are that bad, worst I have seen out of 20 or 30....
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Crap / junk....they are a cruel joke played on the air gun community
by some little nip with a very warped sence of humour....
pete
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This looks identical to the insides of my Industry Brand S-2 pistol.
THe only difference is, your trigger return spring, is a better design than mine.
I took mine apart, deburred it, put some automotive Moly grease on the insides, then put the area where the barrel attaches to the fram in a vice, and cranked it, till it became tight to eliminate side to side motion. Then i took out the leather breech seal, and replaced it with an O-Ring (first, I debured the hole on the face of the frame that it lines up with.
I then drilled a hole on the front sight, and put a small socket head to be able to adjust the height of the front sight (the socket head is now my front sight).
I also recrowned the barrel using the brass screw and cutting compound+drill method. I also shortened the sear spring one coil, and polished the trigger/sear mating surfaces.
it now shoots OK. its a fun pistol for about 10 feet and I made a target using a spoon and some galvanized wire (it spins when you hit it), and my fiance and I can sit outside and shoot at the spoon for hours..and just have a ball.
so in all honesty, for 20 bucks, its a ton of fun, and it has paid for itself already.