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General Discussion To Gateway To Airguns => Classified => : mikeiniowa June 17, 2009, 02:03:06 PM

: B-28 in .22 on sale SOLD
: mikeiniowa June 17, 2009, 02:03:06 PM
tuned and shipped $205, shoots in the high 7's with Gamo hunters and in the 8's with rws hobby used rifle
: Re: B-28 in .22 on sale
: tjk June 18, 2009, 01:50:52 PM
Man I can't believe nobody has posted any interest in this rifle. Mine has a Macarri spring installed,..but with the factory spring, I'm sure it's got a slight bit more power! If I had the funds I'd swipe it up just to compare them. I love my Xisico B-28A!!! $205 is a great price for this shooter folks! tjk
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: jberenyi June 18, 2009, 11:46:20 PM
I hope itlasts longer than mine(http://../jscripts/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/smiley-frown.gif)
: Re: B-28 in .22 on sale
: khadux June 19, 2009, 01:09:41 AM
jberenyi - 6/19/2009  6:46 AM

I hope it lasts longer than mine(http://../jscripts/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/smiley-frown.gif)


I'm not sure what you meant by this post.  Did you buy one from him that wasn't right?
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: Traolach June 19, 2009, 02:45:42 AM
I think that your post here is inappropriate and mean spirited. All air rifles are prone to problems, whether they are Chinese or German or American. People sometimes have the bad luck to get a problem gun. Then they have to worry about getting the gun replaced or repaired. It just happens sometimes. But from all the posts I have read, Mike has been more than willing to repair your gun and has on at least one occasion - now I read that he is going to replace the entire action. I have also read of the many B28 owners who gave very positive comments both about the gun and Mike's service. For you to post here to discourage others from buying from Mike is wrong and I think that you owe him an apology. But I doubt that it will ever come.

Moderators: I don't think that you should allow posts like his to appear in the classifieds. If you allow this kind of posting then the classifieds will dissolve into a cesspool of opinions and innuendos.  Terry
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: jberenyi June 19, 2009, 02:57:07 AM


Traolach - 6/19/2009 8:45 AM I think that your post here is inappropriate and mean spirited. All air rifles are prone to problems, whether they are Chinese or German or American. People sometimes have the bad luck to get a problem gun. Then they have to worry about getting the gun replaced or repaired. It just happens sometimes. But from all the posts I have read, Mike has been more than willing to repair your gun and has on at least one occasion - now I read that he is going to replace the entire action. I have also read of the many B28 owners who gave very positive comments both about the gun and Mike's service. For you to post here to discourage others from buying from Mike is wrong and I think that you owe him an apology. But I doubt that it will ever come. Moderators: I don't think that you should allow posts like his to appear in the classifieds. If you allow this kind of posting then the classifieds will dissolve into a cesspool of opinions and innuendos. Terry



My comment was in no way a reflection of the awesome service I have received from Mike and it was NEVER meant to discourage others from buying his rifle. But if it was taken that way I am very sorry. It was just a comment hoping others have better luck than I have had. One thing is for sure...Mike does make things right. I just wish my luck and patience was as good as his service.

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: pawpawdan June 19, 2009, 04:06:41 AM
:emoticon: i do not feel any comment is that is fair and truthful is a blast at mike.i paid 240.00 for mine and had a problem.mike took care of it  with no problems.nice gun but  i have almost 270.00 invested in it.lost money.that is the truth. :o
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: khadux June 19, 2009, 04:21:46 AM
Most of the folks buying from Mike is trusting that he had QC the rifle with his tuning so I can understand the frustration of having to send it back again.  Just wondering most of these problems are due to shipping related or a case of something got slipped through.
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: tjk June 19, 2009, 04:22:21 AM
Terry, somehow I felt that John wasn't going too far with his comments,...but we all know how mis-interpretation of typed words can be mis-construed for other meanings or intentions. With that said,...I preferred to wait a bit and see how things developed before I feel the need to intervene as a moderator. But I am glad you spoke up.   Rest assured, I keep my eyes and ears open when occurances do come up. John, I do feel bad for your "less than pleasent" experience with the B-28 , and like Terry did point out, sometimes you just get a troublesome rifle,...probably built on a Friday when the workers had their minds on the weekend!!!! LOL's Mike will make it right,...don't jump the ship just yet!!!! Thomas
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: shadow June 19, 2009, 05:28:19 AM
I agree with Thomas some airguns despite a QC check and a great tune that Mike M provides just don't play well with others. :0 I had a shooter myself that I'd gone through from end to end but she wouldn't play nice until a further inspection found a tiny bur at the end of the barrel. :o  :0 She got a chop and crown and she spit's em straight and true now. :) Sometimes it's the little thing's and sometimes someone down at the assembly plant squeezed lemon juice on em. :0 Ed
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: hodgjy June 19, 2009, 05:36:36 AM
I can personally vouch for Mike's service.  He provided me with an excellent B-25 tuned very nicely.  Is the quality of the Chinese manufacturing up to the same quality as the German Dianas and Weihrachs?  Of course not.  That's why you pay less than half the cost.  But Mike does do some magic on these Chinese springers and makes them respectable shooters.
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: Traolach June 19, 2009, 05:36:59 AM
First, I accept what John has said about how he feels about the service he has received form Mike. But the question remains of why he chose to post his negative remark under Mike's listing in the first place if not to affect the sell of the B28. My only concern is the posting of personal opinions about items listed in the classifieds. I feel that you have other forums that are more appropriate for posting about problems and feelings engendered. If you allow personal opinion to be posted concerning items for sale, then you risk the classifieds losing their function as a market place only. And it opens the door for inappropriate and frivolous comments. Case in point, someone offers a B25 for sale and another person posts that he or she would buy a B28 instead. Or as in John's case posts that his has problems or I post that I would never buy Chinese. What happens to the guy trying to sell the B25? The chances of him selling the B25 are affected if not nil. If the Classifieds are open to discussion then they will lose their appeal and we will all miss a great avenue for airgun commerce.  IMHO! Terry
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: HNT5 June 19, 2009, 06:07:30 AM
I agree, the posts about other individuals issues with their B-28’s should be in a separate thread, not in responding to Mike’s classified add. I don’t want to sound like Mr. High and Mighty, but Mike posted a for sale add, not a thread open for discussion about the quality, longevity or issues with (or lack there of) with the BAM B-28.
Just my opinion.
You may or may not agree.

Regards
Nathan
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: pawpawdan June 19, 2009, 06:31:33 AM
:emoticon: mike is a dealer not a indivisual selling one gun.the classified was supposed to be for members trying to sell and trade their wares.just my oppinion. 8)
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: geewhiz380 June 19, 2009, 07:34:15 AM
y bring an old personal problem or issue to the classified its not right .take care of the problem when it happens on a one on one basis or pm mike dont put someones mind in doubt .i have two qb78s from mike and they r excellent thats that if u r not buying dont send out negative messages nor opinons ,this is not the place...this cant happen anymore its not to debate im not a moderatetor but what is wrong must be corrected ,jorge nyc........
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: larspawn June 19, 2009, 07:39:39 AM
You know you are all right.  Look, when your hobby becomes politics and business then it isn't fun any more. Moderator why don't we close this thread and move on.  Mike's a stand up guy and neither his rep nor financial standing will be made on one rifle. I also believe Terry and John are good guys too from observing their past posts.

There's enough of this going on in the GTA vs Yellow fight over gold triggers...
: Re: this is the Classifieds
: leftcoast1 June 19, 2009, 07:49:30 AM
This is for selling airguns and airgun related items. Problems are to be taken up via PM's or email. Thanks
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: pawpawdan June 19, 2009, 07:51:57 AM
:emoticon: i 'm all for closing this one out.somebody will get mad. :0
: John's rifle.....
: mikeiniowa June 19, 2009, 07:53:19 AM
From what I gather was abused before he got it, he is the second owner and I did what had to be done to fix the damage by the first owner. Don't know how many folks will fix a rifle after it's been resold...the 28 is normally very reliable this is a strange case...
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: geewhiz380 June 19, 2009, 08:32:50 AM
keep up the good work mike i have two second hand qb78ds.22 tuned by u and they r great shooters doing 700 plus on a good day accurate and powerful as can be no complaints to who sold them to me...pay no mind mike we like u and the work u do for us here at the gta,its not your fault that people get lemons from their sellers....jorge....
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: Gene_SC June 19, 2009, 09:01:50 AM
I think enough has been said in this post.
Gene
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: lil'feeby June 20, 2009, 11:40:28 AM
amen brotha!
: RE: John's rifle.....
: brooks11959 June 22, 2009, 03:03:05 PM
Third owner ! and it sounds like the gun was crap from the get go.