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General Discussion To Gateway To Airguns => Back Room => : bodiej July 07, 2009, 05:01:45 AM

: Can Anyone Identify??
: bodiej July 07, 2009, 05:01:45 AM
Found on a boat dock at Lake Talquin, north florida...
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: airgunandy July 07, 2009, 05:11:31 AM
It's a snake!!  :D

Sorry, couldn't resist.
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: Bogey July 07, 2009, 05:55:53 AM
Could it be one of those PYTHONS that are infesting Florida now?  They lilke water.   I don't believe it is a water moccasin or a rattle snake.  But it looks dangerous.  

Just where is Lake Talquin in North Florida?  What county?
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: bodiej July 07, 2009, 06:00:30 AM
Lake Talquin's west of tallahassee - man made.  From what I can gather, it's a brown water snake..  not sure though
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: Magnum July 07, 2009, 09:10:58 AM
I could not find the ID web I was looking for but this one will work....Its a copperhead see 4th picture down.  http://www.squidoo.com/poisonoussnakeidentification  :)  They come in darker and lighter shades depending on there enviroment the ones we get coastal NC for example are much darker still same snake tho:) There bite is really nasty it kills of skin tissue and swelling ...they like swampy and wet areas.  Keep away from them,  because they act really slow to start with and then BAM.   Tony
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: ronbeaux July 07, 2009, 09:55:44 AM
Brown Water Snake? Says they are non poisoness.

http://www.flmnh.ufl.edu/herpetology/fl-guide/Nerodiataxispilota.htm

Looks pretty close to me.
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: ShadowShot July 07, 2009, 10:05:50 AM
The diamond head and pits lets you know one thing, its poisonous. Looks like our copperheads in NC.
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: shadow July 07, 2009, 10:52:24 AM
I looked over many pic's of snakes before I did Genes Diamond Back camo  and I just checked out some more pic's of southern Copperhead's and that guy sure look's like one. The shape of the head as mentioned say's a lot and I'm thinking that Viper has a set of Poisonous fangs to match. :0 Ed
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: PeakChick July 07, 2009, 12:51:17 PM
It's a Copperhead, and a big one at that. As mentioned, the triangular shaped head and pits in the side of the snout are dead give aways.
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: TCups July 07, 2009, 01:05:17 PM
What she said.  The pits are infra-red heat sensors.
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: bodiej July 08, 2009, 01:01:48 AM
thanks everyone :)
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: Bentong July 08, 2009, 01:17:46 AM
This looks like one of the six resident poisonous snakes in sunshine state (not today) from the look on the shape of the head either triangular or diamond shape are deadly. Read here >>  http://www.flmnh.ufl.edu/herpetology/FL-GUIDE/Venomsnk.htm
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: Magnum July 08, 2009, 03:06:49 AM
Here are  some nice pics for those future encounters of a cotton mouth.. Note easy ID " flat area between eyes on head and nose"   http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.carolinanature.com/herps/cottonmouth3666a.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.carolinanature.com/herps/cottonmouth.html&usg=__Xr2d55DNP7Ajxqx_sqxC583WtME=&h=511&w=600&sz=90&hl=en&start=13&um=1&tbnid=83K1jQQmP7J8aM:&tbnh=115&tbnw=135&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dwater%2Bmoccasin%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DX%26um%3D1
Here is a copperhead can be slight different depending on areas...they have the more pointed nose thing going on:)  for helpful future easy ID  http://content.artofmanliness.com/uploads/2008/07/copperhead.jpg

Brown water snake  http://coolsprings.org/brownwater.jpg

NC snakes ID   http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://coolsprings.org/brownwater.jpg&imgrefurl=http://coolsprings.org/snake.htm&usg=__21wqfGGfdvkSk3wScX_DOJKwEuM=&h=461&w=614&sz=98&hl=en&start=4&um=1&tbnid=e-y4rWTrwJFmOM:&tbnh=102&tbnw=136&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dbrown%2Bwater%2Bsnake%26hl%3Den%26um%3D1
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: Progun July 08, 2009, 05:21:22 AM
Looks a little darker than the copperheads I'm used to seeing. I'd say Cottonmouth.They like the deep south and water.
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: RedFeather July 09, 2009, 01:58:43 PM
Looks like a copperhead to me.  Didn't know they were aquatic but my daughter and I were fishing off a pier this week and one went swimming right underneath us.  Had a big bulge about midway which might have been a tasty frog dinner.  Haven't seen one in ages here in No. Va. but there it was.  And good-sized, too.
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: jonnnyboy July 10, 2009, 05:15:26 PM
That is a copperhead, very poisonous.  He can be confused if around water with the common brown-banded watersnake.  The head is the giveaway.  That's a viper, for sure.  The brown-banded watersnake, sometimes mistakenly called a water mocasin is not poisonous.  The cottonmouth IS!  The cottonmouth has the same shaped head as this copperhead but will have an indistinct dark grey or almost black design.  Most copperheads will retreat if given the chance but a cottonmouth usually will not.  They will often move toward you instead of moving away.  

Be careful of the copperhead.  Most snakebites in Tennessee come without warning from copperheads that have lain quietly until almost stepped on then they bite in a defensive reaction.  Best to watch where you walk.  OHbytheway, I found through research that the copperhead commonly reaches almost 40 inches in length when fully mature.  Your picture is of a fully mature copperhead.  Give him a wide berth.

Stay safe, Joe