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General Discussion To Gateway To Airguns => Gamo Gate => : chortdraw July 23, 2009, 10:44:01 AM
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Go by the handle chortdraw. I am from north central AZ. I am a bow builder and also like shooting my pistols/380/9mm/45auto.
New to air guns and found this site. I have a Gamo whisper and a Daisy880 and have a Red Rider. I am a avid squirrel hunter and use a 1022 that is a tack driver. Thought it would be fun to hunt them with a pellet gun so I bought the whisper. Put the GRT trigger in and was pleased at the improvement. The whisper has been disappointing as far as the grouping goes so far. Going to try different pellets to see if it helps. I am an old fart and have hunted all my life and think I will enjoy being able to buy ammo a bit easier to find :)
Hope to learn what I can as long as the gray matter still remains in the old head. Dale
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Hey Dale welcome aboard the GTA. One big family here and we love anything that spits lead..:) The Gamo Whisper is a great shooter when you find the correct pellet. They all differ so you might try buying a pellet sampler from Straightshooters. You will find there link in the GTA Mall above on the header. Look forward to seeing some hunt pictures and the stories that go behind the scenes..
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Welcome to the GTA, Dale. Glad to have you!
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Welcome to the Grand Order (Odor?) of the Ancient Flatulence! I also have a Whisper and it is picky about ammo and how it is held on the bench. Springers are very different from anything else in their firing behavior. Try Gamo Match and Tomahawks. I will have a report sometime on several brands.
Jim
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Welcome Dale,,, nice to have you with us !! :)
Looking forward to you finding the right pellet for that Whisper so you can start posting pics of your small game in the "Hunting Gate"......
We just love hunting stories and pics.....
Jeff
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Welcome to the GTA Forums Dale !
The BEST Air Gun Forum on the Internet !!!!! And, IT'S A GREAT PLACE TO BE ! ! !! !
The pellets that most people find accurate are the JSB Exact, Crosman Premier Lights, Crosman Premier Hollow Point and Gamo Hunter. Of course there are always exceptions to the rule, but they work best in most air guns ! :o
You fit in well Dale, bows, guns, pistols, now air guns, yep your addicted !!!! I hope to see you her often ! OH, and we hold our weekly AirGuns Anonymous Meetings on Wednesday Nights, bring your air guns with you ! :emoticon:
Bill
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Welcome fellow old fellow. We have to have a pole to see who is the oldest, but feels the youngest.
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I suspect you should forgive Ronbeaux's Freudian slip. I believe he meant "poll", not "pole", but if you do see him coming your way with any kind of pole, it may be well to keep your distance. I am not exactly sure what he has in mind.
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Thank you all and I will keep an eye on the (pole) How old is really old?
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A little late.... Dale, a BIG WELCOME to the GTA forum and family. Lots of friendly and knowledgeable airgunners here....if you have any questions ask away, someone's bound to know the answer or point you the way to it.
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Welcome to the GTA FAMILY!. and were a big ol family of all ages. :) We look forward to future post from you and maybe some pic's of your shooters. :) Ed
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REALLY REALLY old is oldern DIRT, (like me)!!! :D
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Welcome Dale. you will find plenty of post here for the Whisper. Some of us have had bad times with this rifle, and some of us have had great times with the whisper. Most times it's the luck of the draw. you can either learn to rebuild it your self or send it to Gene for a tune. Mine was very powerful but shooting pellets all over the place like a shot gun. I'll let everyone know how well it shoots when I get it back next week from Genes place. So pull up a chair and lets swap stories! :)
Regards,
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Welcome to the GTA Dale. You're in good company! tjk
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Thanks again for all the responses. I just sent for 2 more GRT111 triggers for a couple of my friends that are having the same problems with their Gamo's. They are also a couple of old farts that can't even turn on a computer so I thought I better help them out. They sure can do some great reloading though. Going to get some different pellets to try today so I will let you all know what my gun likes or not.
Dale....aka Chortdraw
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All us Ol farts gotta stick togedder doncha know! Airguns pretty appropriate; Lotsa hot air!!!
My Whisper to arrive Weds, so keep us posted on the ammo. :D
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All I could find today was Gamo Rocket and Crossmen pointed hunting pellets 8.3 gr. The rocket were all over the place. The Hunting pellets from Crossmen were the most accurate so far...25 yds had some 1/2" groups and some fliers? The Whisper seems to be real touchy on how you hold it. If I hold firm to shoulder it is not very good at grouping. If I use a loose grip it seems to group better? So far I still am not impressed with this gun. Have to try some super domes if I can find them locally. Maybe have to mail order them? The GRT 111 trigger sure makes it easier to control!!! Hope you get your gun soon and let me know it works for you
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Hi Dale, My whisper likes the RWS Superdomes and the the POLYMAG predators even more at 7.9 grain. I'm using iron sights for now at 12 -20 yards.
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I have been trying to get the old gray cells active and have been studying various sources re proper techniques for springers. My only air gun (rifle)experience is with a match Feinwerkbau RECOILESS gun my daughter shot in competition 30 odd years ago.
The firm to the shoulder worked with it, but apparently does not with the recoil generated by most springers without the recoil elimination mechanism. The forearm support that works with the FWB WAS similar in that using either a flat palm without gripping the forearm, OR supporting the stock on a fist using a shooting glove works best (NOT gripping the forearm stock).
This led me to the so-called "Artillery Hold" for the springers.
I Googled until I found this: http://www.pyramydair.com/blog/2007/07/artillery-hold.html
This I hope will get me off to the right start. I plan on initially doing some bench experiments, and will report on AirgunGate.
One other thing is that the gun I am getting had a tuning done on it by CharlieDaTuna (CDT) so we may not be quite comparing apples to apples. But we will work on this together I hope! Maybe start a OFC -- I bet you can figure out what that stands for! :D :D
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Hi Chortdraw, (Can I cal you Dale?)
One of the true experts in this is Tom Gaylord. He is the "B. B. Pelletier" found on Pyramyd Air. Google him for some of his fascinating articles.
Here is a video I just found, that says a bit more.
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=59882597
BTW I am not really a hunter, although I have killed a few squirrels and cottontails back in the day, and that is why I am back into this game, the dang squirrels! Did some low-level small bore competitive shooting, but nothing like to the level my daughter reached. Hard to admit that the ladies can usually outshoot us when they put their mind to it.
Fuller
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Thank you Fuller,and you can call me Dale or anything you want. Sometimes my wife has a few choice names for me..LOL At 70 years of age it doesn't matter what they say as long as they smile in case I don't here them. The video on the artillery hold explains why I shot better when I quit holding the gun like my 1022. There is no end to learning!!!! The same went for my pistols after some schooling through my teacher at Insight. When I got my CCW permit I realized I better learn to shoot better than what I was doing. Love my Springer Loaded 45 and my Bersa's,9mm and 380. I think this is going to be a real challenge and a lot of fun. Would like to learn how to tune one of these myself someday!!......Dale
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You are welcome, and as I said maybe we can learn together. Please keep us posted on your experience with any new techniques that work, as well as ammo.
I also would like to learn disasembly and tuning, and have been checking out CDT's Simplified Spring Compressor. When I do start experimenting with this it will be a rifle that I don't mind messing up! I have been watching for an old inexpensive one.
Wonder how many over 70s there are here?? True members of the OFC need to be 70 or above, and I have you beat, just turned 76. Like I said, Oldern Dirt!!
Hoping my eyesight holds up long enough to enjoy my new found hobby.
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76... Now that is down right scary. Hope I can still do these things at your age. The more I read about these things the more I realize how much I have to learn. I am sure glad I found this site as it has kept me from getting discouraged so fast. Let me know how good your Whisper shoots with the tune job. I may have to send mine in and have it done. ........ Dale