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General Discussion To Gateway To Airguns => China Gate => : USNCop August 05, 2009, 03:20:17 PM
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QB58 on the Industry/Shanghai Air Rifle website?
Mike M or anyone else?
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Its a nice looking gun....i like the stock
But
While I was there I seen this thing..
A underleaver air pistol...Wounder
how the breach works ?..And
its got a saftey...
very interesting little thing....
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I think the QB-58 is a retooling of the QB-88 sidelever powerplant, and obviously with a new stock.
I certainly hope so, anyway, those ( the -88's) were great little rifles.
Compasseco has them for sale:
http://www.compasseco.com/tech-force-contender-series-p-1517.html
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I bought one case for resale, the finish on the metal is rough and they need some TLC to shoot well...not bad for the price if they are still the same as when I got them...
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mikeiniowa... do you happened to know where can i get a b5-10? i have been scouring retailers but no one carries anymore. Is the one i need to finish my holy trinity... b3-1, qb57 and b5-10...
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it's been discontinued, have to just keep searching I have no idea who might have some...
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I have one. Needs new valve seals. Not sure whether I'm going to keep it or sell it.
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That's where I saw those. Thanks for the reminder Joel.
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Compasseco should have the new TF-87's in stock this month.. Keep checking.
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Obviously, I spend way too much time browsing for new "toys".
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Hi:
I just got one from Compasseco. It was on sale, but probably still overpriced. It is the same as the QB-88 with, in my opinion, a very nice stock. It's a real step up in looks from the QB-88. The checkering is realy quite good, better than on a Gamo 440. It also has an automatic safety. I'm not crazy about automatic safeties in general, but i guess on a side lever it may provide that little bit of extra finger protection. It has fibre optic sights and a somewhat Star Wars muzzle brake. Would prefer plain but not a deal breaker.
It's got to be the least expensive rifle on the market with a decent checkered stock. It's a real nice looking gun and mine is as accurate as my QB-88. I added a %%*^(()*)%$*% trigger insert, followed his instructions to the letter, and it produced a wonderful trigger. Definately a keeper. I now see that the tuna trigger will also fit as long as you let Charlie know that it's a Chinese Gamo clone, he will provide a different pin to fit.
Was originally looking at their TF-97 with the newer checkered stock. Called several times and they were out of stock. Seems like they have arrived but they are no longer on sale. Go fugure. I was assured by a CSR that the price would be the same when they got them. I'll just have to wait for another sale I guess.
Cheers,
Fatman
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Oops.
Sorry, didn't know that there was an issue with that individual. I'm not a Troll, that post was only intended to be informational.
Cheers,
Fatman
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You must have mentioned you-know-who from you-know-where.
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I'd like to have the TF58. I have a QB57 and a Fast Deer. I really like the Fast Deer, but mine seems to like the larger diameter pellets best. Meaning, Beeman and other expensive pellets. I thought about sleeving the barrel with a Crosman 2100 barrel liner. Dunno.
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How's the TF58 shoot? What's the build quality of the rifle itself like? Been kinda kicking around the idea of getting one.
I have TF41 sidelever. Looks like they aren't making them anymore. It's a nice gun, but the stock is kinda weird. May have to do something about that. Anyway the sidelever concept is pretty cool to me. Almost (almost) like throwing the bolt on a bolt-action rifle.
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Hi:
Build quality is what I would call "Improving Chineses". The stock is georgeous in my opinion. It's a dark reddish brown, reminds me of an old military rifle a friend has. The shape is right out of the Hunting Rifle playbook and very attractive - not bulky with a chopped off fore end like the old QB-88. The checkering is very good, a lot better than the Gamo 440's I've seen. I believe it's laser cut and a bit darker than the rest of the stock. Authentic hand- cut checkering is often darker than the surrounding wood as it exposes end grain which allows greater penetration of the stain/finish, so the laser cut doesn't look artificial or out of place. The butt plate fits well and the overall quality is good.
Mine had a minor unblued blemish on the breach which they touched up with black paint....go figure. A little acetone and some Hobby Black and it's as good a new. I use Hobby Black as I have some that I inherited from my father from over 30 years ago! It's what I have on hand and it is a good match to the black Chinese "Blueing" on my low buck springers. You can still find it at some hobby shops, the kind that sell Brass HO locos and scratch building supplies. It's the same kind of salts infusion as blueing but produces a black rather than blue black finish. That said the metal finish is good, not polished like Gamo or European, but clean and certainly not objectionable. The trigger is a Gamo clone and not bad but it does benefit from improvement. It's nothing like the sprain inducing direct sear on the Fast Deer. The cocking arm is stamped steel, same as on the QB-88 and not a solid piece as on the Fast Deer. The muzzel brake is a bit "Star Wars" for my taste but acceptable. The sights are fibre optic and a bit basic but certainly adequate for plinking and close in pest control.
Mine shot very well right out of the box, mild mannered, no dieseling, and I don't have any plans to tear it down (a first for me) unless it starts having problems. It's as accurate as the QB-88 and either one will shoot better than I can (I don't shoot bench rested though). I think I saw somewhere that they have synthetic seals, but I havn't checked that out. I prefer leather seals as they perform well in even the most uneven compression tubes and with a few drops of a 30/70 mix of neats foot oil and silicone oil they will last just about forever.
Note: If you do any trigger work, notice that the bolt holiding the trigger group and the one opposite retain the end cap and thus the spring. You must use a spring compressor when removing the trigger group to keep the end cap from shifting. If you go with a Tuna trigger, let him know it's a Chinese Gamo clone and he will supply the correct pin as they differ from the Gamo. You don't have to remove the whole trigger group with a Tuna trigger, you just replace the blade, so no problem.
On sale at Compessaco, this one was right up there on my limited income budget, but it's the least expensive air rifle with a good looking checkered wood stock that I know of. In todays market, that checkered stock alone is probably worth what they want for the whole enchilada. With the good (mild) shooting qualities, and a willingness to shoot cheap Walmart Daisy wadcutters with QB-88 accuracy, it's a good excuse to lose control and hit the buy button. I'm glad I did,. It's a keeper.
Last time I checked they were still on sale at Compessaco. Hope this helps.
Cheers,
Fatman