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General Discussion To Gateway To Airguns => The Shop => : SDale September 23, 2009, 04:31:58 PM

: New tip for stock staining
: SDale September 23, 2009, 04:31:58 PM
I see lots of great work being done on stocks here lately! I mean GREAT work!

For folks who would like more vibrant colors and still be able to see the grain... Use a mixture of liquid RIT Dye and alcahol to stain the wood and finish with your preferred method.  If the color of the wood is too dark, then lighten it up a bit with a 50/50 bleach and water solution first. This will make the end product brighter and more vibrant.

I've seen lots of rimfires (mostly 10/22's) done this way and they always come out lookin sharp!
: RE: New tip for stock staining
: shadow September 25, 2009, 05:01:20 AM
Thanks for the info Sam and I may have to dabble with that idea, just need another stock hehe.:) Ed
: RE: New tip for stock staining
: SDale September 25, 2009, 01:53:23 PM
Hey, no problem Ed! Any time!!!

Maybe experiment with a medicine dropper and a few different colors for a streaked look! LoL
: Re: New tip for stock staining
: howie1a September 25, 2009, 11:40:57 PM
Their used to be a wood stain made in a powder form it was called aniline stain you used to mix it with alcohol , maybe you have reinvented an old process good idea , it was a good product and using  a product like Rite Dye you have a lot of colors to work with, that you didn't have with the wood version. good job, howie
: Re: New tip for stock staining
: Kevin R October 13, 2009, 12:47:45 PM
Sounds like a great tip I am gonna have to try it!  Howie1a they still make the anilines just a little hard to find.  We use them alot in the furniture restoration business.  Also like you said probably wont have the color selection as the dye!
: Re: New tip for stock staining
: larspawn October 13, 2009, 01:39:41 PM
Hey Howie,

As I recall from my experience renovating and building "old houses" stains typically use oil as the vehicle and aniline dyes use alcohol.  The nice thing about dyes is they are less splotchy on porous woods than oil based products.  I think it is because the oil is so thick it can't penetrate all wood pores evenly.  The solution then is to use a conditioner or linseed oil prior to stain.  Problem I found is then the stain sits on the surface and you don't get a good view of the grain of the wood.  Also, dyes can be made in colors not typical shades of brown.  So you can dye real red, purples and blues but can't really do that with stain.  Geez, here I'm giving my opinion to the master wood man.  I bow down in difference to your abilities.  (That was sincere!)

P.S.  My AR2078 came today.  I won't sleep a wink until your stock comes Thursday!
: Re: New tip for stock staining
: howie1a October 13, 2009, 11:52:53 PM
I did a stock for a 1377 once with blue paint a laytex i think and then wiper if off before it had time to dry using thinners till I got the right shade. then varnished it . Howie
: Re: New tip for stock staining
: kp4att October 14, 2009, 12:38:34 AM
SAM THANKS FOR THE INFO.  THIS WEEK I HAVE A RWS 48  STOCK FOR STAINING AND I WANTED THE COLOR LIGHT ... I WILL USE THAT TECHNIQUE.  THANKS //  GERALD
: Re: New tip for stock staining
: howie1a October 14, 2009, 01:17:21 AM
Correction I now think the blue stock was done with blue oil paint not laytex you have a ton of colors now to chose from  this now gives you unlimited color options make your own stain from oil paint ..Stain is only the pigment from oil paint in paint thinners anyway, the little varnish the driers when reduced with thinners don't do much now.  LOL  howie
: Re: New tip for stock staining
: Als69GT October 14, 2009, 01:21:36 AM
I used to get a catalog from WoodWorkers??? They had a rainbow of the anilene dyes. I allways wanted to try them. I made various jewelry boxes and smaller Desk boxes but almost all ways opted for minwax and or carnuba wax. I was usually using tropical hardwoods and they have great color on their own. If anyone can find it Indonesian Rose wood is just shy of blood red color and a tight grain.

Al
: Re: New tip for stock staining
: Jaymo October 17, 2009, 06:20:26 PM
I thought about experimenting with printer cartidge refill ink diluted with alcohol.
: Re: New tip for stock staining
: RedFeather October 18, 2009, 03:09:14 PM
I first read about analine dyes as used for staining plywood panels.  Gives you a wild grain pattern.  I would hate to see a rec room done in them, but who knows?  I do like Minwax products.
: Re: New tip for stock staining
: Schmidty25 October 18, 2009, 03:17:05 PM
Are these stocks in the picture what you guys are talking about doing?  if not do you know how to stain the stocks this way so that the grains are 2 different colors??  here is a link

http://www.stockysstocks.com/catalog/JRSVertcolors.jpg
: Re: New tip for stock staining
: Schmidty25 October 19, 2009, 02:07:09 PM
Okay after some research I see that those are laminated stocks.  A process by which they glue several layers of wood stained different colors together.  ok... got it.