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General Discussion To Gateway To Airguns => China Gate => : shawn67 October 19, 2009, 08:20:49 AM

: am i mistaken?
: shawn67 October 19, 2009, 08:20:49 AM
I always thought that magnum springers didn't do well from a rest? That the artillery hold leaning next to something to steady yourself did better. My TF89 .22 LOVES a benchrest with a good snug hold with my firing hand, I mean 1 hole 5 shot groups from 50 yards, I. Always knew the gun was more accurate than I could be, but I could cover a 5 shot group with a quarter most off the time, but from a rest this rifle can be pinpoint accurate, I thought lower powered springers and PCPs loved a benchrest not the magnums, I actually thought it was a fluke but it did it several times in a row
: RE: am i mistaken?
: onemountain October 19, 2009, 08:47:20 AM


If yours likes a rest, then yours likes a rest!(http://../jscripts/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/smiley-cool.gif) I think there is a general tendency for some of the stronger spring guns not to like being rested, and that is something I've heard about in the TF89..



..But nothing is a hard and fast rule when it comes to springers.

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: shawn67 October 19, 2009, 08:58:35 AM
Thanks onemountain, I thought I was seeing thing at first- old age is catching me fast and all you know, lol, but mine sure does LOVE a rest- weird.
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: CharlieDaTuna October 19, 2009, 10:49:36 AM
Most springers don't like a bench rest or "hard hold" but if yours does, that's great. Some springers are very hold sensitive.
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: bcshooter October 19, 2009, 11:01:48 AM
(http://../jscripts/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/smiley-smile.gif)Hi Shawn, When it comes to springers, I don't think their is set rule of thumb. IMO each and every springer has it's ownfollowing. My TF 89 needs my hand on the forestock if I shoot bench, can not shoot directly on a bag or anything, just my hand, the soft touch(http://../jscripts/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/smiley-laughing.gif)(http://../jscripts/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/smiley-laughing.gif)..........Bill(http://../jscripts/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/smiley-cool.gif)
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: Gene_SC October 19, 2009, 11:56:39 AM
I have had great luck shooting my springers from a rest. But that does not mean that all springers shoot well from a bench rest of sorts. I have only had a couple magnums and I would say that the TF-89 was the most accurate from my bench rest. The Gamo Hunter 1250 would not shoot under one inch groups at 30 yards using a rest. Most all my other springers shoot excellent from a my bench rest setup.
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: shawn67 October 19, 2009, 12:00:16 PM
Hi Bill, I was really suprised, I have a rest that has a V in it and is adjustable for height, the V is covered in rubber and the rear can be adjusted also, I just rested the barrel in there and put the stock to my shoulder snug not tight, and held the pistol grip snug too not tight and squeezed the trigger, I got the pull set fairly light and it produced the best groups I've ever shot, well you couldn't even call it a group I mean 1 hole, I was amazed,  I'm gonna try my shooting sticks tommorow to see how they do, hopefully they'll do as good
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: onemountain October 19, 2009, 04:13:41 PM
I can't wait to hear how you do with the shooting sticks.. I got a pair with my Centerpoint, figured 'what the heck worth a try' and they really have been! I just wish they were taller; I'm already thinking about finding a taller pair.
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: bcshooter October 20, 2009, 01:52:14 PM


(http://../jscripts/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/smiley-smile.gif)Shawn, chronied my AG'S today, here are the stats for my TF89 .22cal shot with CPHP .22cal 14.30gr.......



1. 828 2. 827 3. 823 4. 826 5. 818 6. 816 7. 815 8. 825 9. 825 10. 825



High Velocity 828



Low Velocity 815



Extreme Spread 13



21.46 ft.lbs.



Nice hard hitting Son of a Gun..........Bill(http://../jscripts/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/smiley-cool.gif)

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: shawn67 October 20, 2009, 02:03:26 PM
No doubt Bill, that's a stong shooting gun, I'm getting ready to send mine to Gene for him to do his magic on, I know mine hits hard, now it'll be smooth too.
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: onemountain October 20, 2009, 02:49:59 PM
Wow, she's gained nearly two foot pounds since the rebuild. I'd say ya must've done something right!
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: bcshooter October 21, 2009, 09:06:44 AM
Eric, all I did was adjust the trigger so barrel would latch and lubed the AG....Heavy Tar on spring and moly lubedspring guide, oil all pivot points and spray trigger with WD40.....soaked it overnight and wiped it dry before install.......Bill(http://../jscripts/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/smiley-cool.gif)
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: onemountain October 21, 2009, 09:50:19 AM


lol that's "all you did" sounds like a lot to a simple fellow like me (http://../jscripts/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/smiley-tongue-out.gif)



oh, and I just got back from the post office; your old B28A has an appointment with Timmy and then another with Gene (http://../jscripts/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/smiley-laughing.gif)(http://../jscripts/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/smiley-laughing.gif) She won't be so long you have to take the buttpad off to fit her in a box anymore hehe..



How're you liking that new Diana 54? Those look like very nice rifles, despite the fact that they must weigh half a gazillion pounds. Though I guess the balance is probably fairly good.

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: bcshooter October 21, 2009, 12:56:00 PM
(http://../jscripts/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/smiley-smile.gif)Eric, the Diana 54 .22cal weighs in at twelve pounds, give or take a few ounces with the Leapers 4-16X50 AO/IR scope.....and Dn460 with low profile Space Age mounts.....Whew I am tired already(http://../jscripts/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/smiley-laughing.gif)(http://../jscripts/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/smiley-laughing.gif).......And she is a hole in one shooter too.....Bill(http://../jscripts/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/smiley-cool.gif)
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: shawn67 October 21, 2009, 01:35:23 PM
My TF89 is off to Gene next week, for a turbo tune, as good as the gun is now, I can only imagine how good it will be when Gene gets done with it.
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: North Pack October 27, 2009, 12:16:03 PM
I've never shot a springer any other way, except from a "rest" - with a loose hold.
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: shawn67 October 27, 2009, 12:37:30 PM
Well I do a lot of squirell hunting this time of year, I used to use a .22 powderburner but a using a air rifle can be more challenging, you have to get closer(usually) but they have their good points too, the game isn't as skitish when you take a shot, instead of all the squirrels running for cover and hiding for long preriods of time, they just keep right on about their business. A lot of times with my MM tuned B26 .22 is so quiet they never even know what happened until one of their buddies falls out of the tree, and then they still don't know what happened. And I can easily take squirells with it up to 40 yards, when I get my TF89 back I expect that range will increase by another 25 to 30 yards, only because it hits a lot harder, it was twice as loud as my B26 before the tune but I know that will change after the tune.