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General Discussion To Gateway To Airguns => China Gate => : atchman2 January 15, 2010, 02:01:07 PM

: TF 89 in .177
: atchman2 January 15, 2010, 02:01:07 PM
I've been shooting my TF 89 a LOT today.  It was the first time it has been warm in weeks!  Mine is a .22 caliber gun.  I'm actually pondering buying another one in .177.  Does anyone have one and how is it?  

Just FYI it has less than a 500 shots through her, and she is DEADLY accurate!  I've learned so many lessons on the forum about how to prep one by cleaning the barrel and tightening everything up.  

Randy
: Re: TF 89 in .177
: Gene_SC January 15, 2010, 03:40:35 PM
They shoot awsome as well.
: Re: TF 89 in .177
: atchman2 January 15, 2010, 04:22:09 PM
It is just wild that you can spend what isn't a huge amount of money on a gun that is really good!
: Re: TF 89 in .177
: Lerchy January 16, 2010, 01:40:39 AM
Get a Titan from Hammerli. It is the same gun all the way down to the sites. Sportsmans guide had them refurbed for $70 with scope. Tuned mine. Man what a good gun.
: Re: TF 89 in .177
: thebookdoc January 16, 2010, 02:07:53 AM
I have the TF89 .177 and the .22, and I also have a Walther Force 1000 -- same gun, different stock. In fact there are quite a few different AR1000 variants sold by different manufacturers.

I had both my TF89s tuned by Gene. They started out nice shooters, but when I got them back they were super. I'd put them side-by-side with $400-$500 guns, which I own. And I got mine for $149 and $119. The Walther was $69 with shipping included. So, all told, if you shop smart, you can get an AR1000 .177 refurb with a tune for $250. It'll outshoot any gun at $200 more...except the TF89 .22, which I happen to prefer. Unless you happen to find a tuned Cometa Fusion Star for that ;-)

: Re: TF 89 in .177
: atchman2 January 16, 2010, 09:28:47 AM
Thanks for the information folks.  I'll keep looking in "Bargain Gate" to see if anyone has them on special.  I can afford them, I"m just cheap!  :D  

Today I was in a shooting contest with another airgunner and a guy shooting a .22 rimfire.  All of us had scopes, but mine were better.  We were shooting at shotgun shells at about 25 plus yards.  The first match I dusted them with my Whisper.  The next match I was in the lead with m TF89 until the rimfire guy hit the 5 pt bonus target-a 9mm casing!  We even found it with the dent from his bullet! Good times, good times.
: Re: TF 89 in .177
: atchman2 January 17, 2010, 07:08:45 AM
Where did you find the Walther so cheap?
: Re: TF 89 in .177
: atchman2 January 17, 2010, 07:14:38 AM
What would be another AR1000?  The Beeman R-2?
: Re: TF 89 in .177
: thebookdoc January 17, 2010, 08:09:04 AM
The Walthar is an AR1000, yes. I got it for $69 from Sportsmansguide.com when they were running a special on refurbs. Came with a scope that I sold for about $10, so really the rifle cost even less. But there are a lot of AR1000 variants, and they seem to keep improving year-to-year. I should have bought two in hindsight, but then I'm amassing more guns than I can really shoot! Keep an eye out and you'll find a good buy. e.g., Lerchy saw the Hammerli Titan, which is another AR1000.
: Re: TF 89 in .177
: atchman2 January 17, 2010, 08:37:38 AM
I found one cheap!  http://www.airgunsusa.com/list2.html

I just like my TF 89 so much better than my Air Hawk.  I can get rid of the Air Hawk for a few $$ and just replace it with the 89.

Oh what that heck I'm buying it!  That is a great price and you get a little scope I can put on my Daisy :)
: Re: TF 89 in .177
: thebookdoc January 17, 2010, 11:03:23 AM
that is a good deal...depending on the scope it could be even better. The Walther scope I got was actually pretty good!
: Re: TF 89 in .177
: atchman2 January 17, 2010, 01:42:59 PM
I thought it was an excellent price!  I've ordered one from Compasseco before so I have a coupon from them.  They sent me a 15% off discount.  However it would still at least $50 more expensive than that deal.  Do you think it is the exact same gun and quality?  

After searching around a bit, you can find them at about $120 if you look hard.  Most of the time though that model with a scope runs about $159!  I hope they have it in stock and I get it quickly (AND BEFORE MY WIFE GETS HOME).  

Randy
: Re: TF 89 in .177
: thebookdoc January 17, 2010, 02:05:14 PM
the walther I got was slightly lesser than the newest TF89, but that was partly the stock and partly the AR1000 version. There is an AR1000FC, and then there are three lesser versions C, F and plain AR1000. I believe the internal parts are all the same... the versions refer to differences in the stock and sights. My Walther matches my TF89...but yet will need a tune to be fair. But that is to take nothing from its performance out of the box -- only to say I have my TF89s tuned. I think it will be just as good performance-wise. the stock and sights will be the only question.
: Re: TF 89 in .177
: ezman604 January 18, 2010, 08:47:04 AM


WHICH gun you talking about being a good deal on that page? Wasn't sure. I DID find a RWS (Mendoza) RM600 dual caliber for $69 + $12 shipping. Thinking of getting it for tune practice just to see what I can do to it. Doesn't come with a scope though. Always looking for a good bargain to experiment with. This one is on Umarex site.



Happy Shooting!!!!



Dave



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: Re: TF 89 in .177
: ezman604 January 18, 2010, 09:15:04 AM


Compasseco has the TF89 in .177 scratch & dent sale for $119 here. (http://www.compasseco.com/tech-force-contender-series-caliber-scratch-dent-p-1782.html)[/b][/i]



Dave



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: Re: TF 89 in .177
: WVscott January 18, 2010, 11:29:23 AM
I got one of the refurbs from sportsman guide for Christmas.  Took it apart, cleaned all the grease and honed and relubed with JM lubes.  Polished the trigger sears and cut one coil off the trigger return/sear spring.  Gun shoots really nice, but I couldn't get it to group well...3-4" with crosman hp's at 25 yds.  Best was kodiaks for around an inch.   i pushed a pellet down the bore and there's a really tight spot right at the muzzle.  I'm sending the barrel off to Paul Watts for a cut, crown, and choke...we'll see what happens.
           regards, Scott
: Re: TF 89 in .177
: thebookdoc January 18, 2010, 12:54:40 PM
Was this one... but since they sold out.

http://www.airgunsusa.com/desc/ham21010.html

: Re: TF 89 in .177
: atchman2 January 18, 2010, 01:02:33 PM
I've had nothing but problems with the only refurb gun I've ever bought.  I should have just sent it back when it was shooting poorly out of the box.
: Re: TF 89 in .177
: ezman604 January 18, 2010, 02:07:13 PM


Kinda glad it WAS sold out. Otherwise I would probably have pushed the button. (http://../jscripts/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/smiley-laughing.gif)



My refurbed Walther Force 1000 from Sportsman's Guide was a fantastic buy. It home tuned to an output of around 935+ fpe with CPHP and was a tack driver at 25-35 yards.



Oh well, staying ready for the next bargain AG.



Happy Shooting!!!!



Dave



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: Re: TF 89 in .177
: thebookdoc January 18, 2010, 02:21:04 PM
I've got a refurb, and it is fine...or better than that. Refurbs are supposed to match or beat factory specs...
: Re: TF 89 in .177
: atchman2 January 18, 2010, 02:38:02 PM
I just can't see buying a refurb unless it is 3/4 or better of the price.  When you can buy a brand new gun for $89, that is pretty good!  In fact mine has already SHIPPED and will be here on Thursday!  :D
: Re: TF 89 in .177
: atchman2 January 19, 2010, 01:53:53 AM
Big Brown Santa is due in here on Thursday!  I'll let you guys know how it shoots and whether it is the same as my TF 89.
: Re: TF 89 in .177
: atchman2 January 19, 2010, 12:29:10 PM
I was shooting my TF 89 .22 today. It was really warm instead of the frigid cold of the last few weeks.  The POI changed to where it was shooting about 2" high. I messed with the scope a bit and then was putting them darn near in the same hole.  I really need to get this gun tuned to smooth it out, but you can't doubt the accuracy!
: Re: TF 89 in .177
: atchman2 January 20, 2010, 09:56:51 AM
Woo Hoo, just got the tracking # Brown Santa tomorrow!