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General Discussion To Gateway To Airguns => Airgun Gate => : CharlieDaTuna June 29, 2006, 02:25:12 AM
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what is it? What scope and pellet do you use.do you use?
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There were hundreds, if not thousands of squirrels in the stewpot over the past 25 years as testimony to the accuracy and effectiveness of my FWB 127D with Bushnell 4x32 AO airgun rated scope. Most shots were kept within 30 or so yards, and a full bag limit was commonplace. Ah, the good old days......
The pellets I used in the 127 were Milbro Caledonian diabolos - they work great in this rifle.
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squirrel since I was a little kid on my grandparents farm and that's been over 60 years ago. Sherry won't fix them or even try as good a cook as she is. Thinks that for all the work involved it ain't worth it and besides, they kinda look like rats...lol... Can't argue that part :)
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My R1 in .20 shoots 3/4" groups at 50 yards rested. It holds 2.5" groups at 100 yards with a slight breeze rested. I shoot FTS in it.
My HW97 is a bit more accurate at 50 yards, but I have never bench rested it. I shoot CPL's in it in .177.
Not sure about the B30 at long ranges, but it's dead on accurate for hunting. I'll have to shoot some groups with it and post them as soon as I get some more pellets. I shoot .22 FTS in it.
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http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f61/123sknr/100_0291.jpg
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f61/123sknr/100_0853.jpg
THESE ARE MY B 20 GROUPS SHOT AT 25 YRDS ALL 5 SHOT GROUPS ..I USE MAINLY 3 B 20'S AND I SHOOT RWS SUPER DOMES ...ALL .177 CAL ..I ALSO HAVE 4 OTHER B 20'S IN THE MAKIN ...IF MUH FUNDS HOLD UP ...
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A side toptic, more or less related.
Have been accused of being too hard-core becasue I shoot 5 5-shot groups in my shake-down tests, then go to 10-shot groups when selecting the absolute-best-ammo from the almost-best. Know it makes my group averages larger, but to me, an airgun has to be consistant to be of any real use.
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At my inlaw's farm, in a bush area alongside a large cornfield. The squirrels fed on the corn - they were huge compared to their urban cousins, and they tasted like corn fed veal. The in-laws sold the farm a few years back, due to age/health problems, and sadly, the best squirrel hunting I had ever known was a thing of the past.( the new owner was anti-hunting). Life goes on.....lol.
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NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT RIBBONSTONE ...
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Maybe..I certainly find it works for me, and as my only goal is to know the real accuracy of a gun/pellet combination, it makes for a more confident assessement.
Don't get me wrong, won't waste my time with 5 5-shot groups with a pellet that shoots poorly for the first two 5-shot groups.....can rule out the real stinkers pretty fast.
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(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v375/arathol/target1.jpg) (http://photobucket.com)
.22 Webley Xocet carbine, Simmons 4x32 WTF diamond reticle shotgun scope.
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Dave, That's damn gooood accuracy!!!
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maybe this is sort of off-topic, but being a scientist by trade, I always like to remind people of precision vs. accuracy.
http://honolulu.hawaii.edu/distance/sci122/SciLab/L5/accprec.html
What one should strive for is both, not just accuracy.
I think when people say "accurate" they mean "accurate and precise" and maybe they even know the meaning of each term and are just shortening it for ease of speech.
Just thought I'd point it out in the interest of being accurate =D
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that would work just fine arathol ......nice group....
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Logun Solo.... ragged one hole. CP heavies, 44 Mag on top, tho that will change soon.
The Solo (Typhoon) is the best bargain in the airgun world.
BS
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Rifle Number 1:
.177 Beeman R-9 "Goldfinger" with Bushnell Banner 4-12 A.O. scope in medium Beeman @pc mounts.
This rifle will shoot 5 CPL's, Copperheads, Exacts, or Beeman FTS pellets inside a 1" circle at 50 yards.
Rifle Number 2:
.20 Beeman R-9, de-burred and lube-tuned by yours truly, with a Wal Mart Bushnell Sportsman 4-12 A.O. scope in 2pc medium SportsMatch ring mounts.
It will also put 5 pellets inside a 1" circle at 50 yards when using Beeman FTS pellets.
The .20 is just slightly tighter grouping, overall, than the .177 is. I'm sure that caliber has nothing to do with it and that a different pair of these rifles might have the .177 trumping the .20 in the precision department.
-JP
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Well I also wanted to see how my rifle (stock standard BSA Supersport .177) group at longer distances...
The wind was blowing (left to right), so conditions could have been better, but hey this is Cape Town, might just as well get used to it, the wind is always blowing.
I wanted to do a 10 shot grouping, but mistakenly put 11 pellets in my mouth, so I took the extra shot... what do you do with the extra pellet anyway. I think I can improve a lot on this. I am still using the Gamo Pro Hunters, so new pellets (like JSB) might be an improvement. A bit of practise at this distance might also do the trick. If the grouping still suck in a few weeks time, I'll just blame it on the wind.
here is the photo : http://www.gatewaytoairguns.com/airguns/photos/show-album.asp?albumid=23&photoid=217
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Mine is more accurate than me, however I put two magazines of shots in the same hole yesterday at 30yds when testing a new model muzzle break design. The rifle is a standard Logun Gladi8or in .22.
Jon(http://www.portlandbill.com/silencers4u/images/4med.jpg)
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but mistakenly put 11 pellets in my mouth <<< ummm you realise that its lead?
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Two guns, finally got a chance to do some shooting. Target was shot in my shop at only 10 yards, best I can do for now. Top 6 targets are the Gamo CFX .177, bottom 4 are the Diana 350 .22 Mag. Even at 10 yards, it's obvious the CFX doesn't like anything Crosman :-). It's also obvious the 350 likes Predators. The one low and out shot was my fault, I jerked the trigger. BTW, all groups are 5 shots, rested. CFX has a Leapers 3-12x44 AO full size in Accushot 1 pc. high mount, scope was at 3x. 350 has a Simmons 44 Mag 6.5-20 AO in Beeman 5039 adj. mount, scope set at 6.5x. Still want to get a lower powered gun for indoor use, think I'll probably go with the IZH 61. Later all.
Dave
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Ok, going out on a limb here, perhaps this post is out of date. Testing a rifle recently tuned, and this was the start of the shakedown and pellet testing. I had decided not to use the pellets shown in the picture below as they were too sloppy in the breech. I have about 10 more pellet types to put thru it in the near future.
Gun used: Hatsan mod 100 underlever in .177 cal. Scope: Tasco 4-16 x 40 Rangemaster
Pellets: H & N Silouhettes ( testing but didn't like them, skirts too loose and flyers)
Range 30 metres
Rested
Wind: strong/gusty L to R
Regards Adam