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General Discussion To Gateway To Airguns => Hunting Gate => : N_Strike March 23, 2010, 12:40:40 PM

: Boars
: N_Strike March 23, 2010, 12:40:40 PM


Hy guys,a friend of mine asked me to get him rid of few boars cos they're ruining the garden and coltures,I was wondering if anyone has ever attempted a shot with a .22 cal springer within 15-20 yards to an animal that weights 70-80 lb,what'd be the best shot placements?



Let me know cos these boars are a real pita,(should I consider the crossbow for a cleaner kill?)



Emi.

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: longislandhunter March 23, 2010, 12:44:06 PM
Personally,,,, I'd rather see the cross bow used.   I just wouldn't feel confident using a .22 springer for an animal that size and that tough.  I wouldn't hesitate for a second if I was using my .22 Condor but with a springer ??  I think I'd pass on that....  just my opinion..

Jeff
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: atchman2 March 23, 2010, 12:57:00 PM
I vote Crossbow too!
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: N_Strike March 23, 2010, 01:33:46 PM


While I was waiting for your answers I already searched for a crossbow to buy,I already have an english longbow but I don't think 60 lb is enough for a boar,even at close range.



emi

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: longislandhunter March 23, 2010, 01:38:11 PM
I would think that a 60 lb bow  shooting arrows tipped with appropriate hunting broadheads would be more than capable of taking down an 80 pound boar at 20 yards.  All my bowhunting is done for deer though so perhaps I'm mistaken.....

Jeff
: My experience in shooting Boars with a bow
: fisherdude March 23, 2010, 02:17:34 PM
I have shot several wild feral hogs with bow.  I think a springer is not enough gun.  I once tried to kill one with a 22 pistol and it almost got me before I took it down with a .308 rifle.  A bow of 60 lb is fine with an aluminum arrow and a strong tip. -- a word about what happens when you shoot a wild hog with a bow.  - unless you shoot them in the head or spine, they will run a ways.  How far depends on how good the hit is.  A heart shot will stop them faster than a lung shot.  There is a lot of grissle to protect the lung cavity.  Tracking a wounded hog through the brush in the dark is very dangerous.  I found that, with practice, I could hit them in the head at 20 yards from my tree stand with a 60 lb compound bow and drop them in their tracks.  With an aluminum arrow tipped with a Muzzy 130 grain broadhead, I could penetrate enough bone for a clean kill.  If you wound one, they often attack.
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: adrian March 23, 2010, 02:51:32 PM
6o pounds is plenty if you hit the right spot ive bowhunted for years and a arrow in the rite spot will do the job.ive seen young adults kill russian wild boars over 100 ponds with less wieght.be confident with your equipment is the key .GOOD LUCK.
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: atchman2 March 23, 2010, 03:08:03 PM
Yeah, a sixty pound bow would take them out.  I've got a 65 lb compound that will go a couple inches into an oak tree.  I didn't shoot it but my brother........:D  

I've been investigating using bows in the suburbs, but the main problem with them and crossbows is if you don't hit them just right, they may run into someone's yard.  Or worse yet a wounded hog in someone's yard!  

What I really think you need hunting in the suburbs is some sort of harpoon arrow or quarrel (don't laugh).  That way they can't run any further than your rope.  Just hook it to a good Warn winch and reel them in!  :)  That is how they hunt suburban alligators in Florida a lot of the time.  They use a harpoon and then pull them close enough to capture them.
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: arnie3981 March 23, 2010, 06:14:21 PM
Do not attempt it with a 22 cal springer. I know people who have taken down big deer with 22 cal powerful PCPs but a sub 1000 fps springer would just not do it.
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: N_Strike March 23, 2010, 08:01:38 PM


Thanks guys,the Idea of using anarpoon with a strong line is not bad,maybe if Ican get closer to 10 yards I might use my spearfishing stuff with a stronger line.I'll taka a look at the boars today and then I'll let you know.



Emi.

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: cf42fwb March 23, 2010, 11:34:34 PM
I have killed and trapped more wild hogs then the average joe,and have done so with everything from a .22 LR,to a .308.I wouldn't consider a .22 airgun up to the task under any condition.
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: cf42fwb March 23, 2010, 11:35:53 PM
Pigs...
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: cf42fwb March 24, 2010, 12:04:51 AM
I've taken to using a .243 when I shoot them from my window during the full moon nights.They wont come back around if alot of blood hits the ground from a previous kill.I was shooting them with my .308.With the .243 It leaves a small hole,little blood.They usually run 50 to 75 yards and pile up.When we trap them,we load them ont o mobile hog trailer,castrate the young males,or cull out a plump sow or two.(.22).Needless to say...we have ALOT of hogs in my part of the Fla.Panhandle..My brother-in-law shot one(50lbs) at 60yds with a .223 and watched it keep on keeping on...22 airguns have no business in the hog business.
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: Mebits March 24, 2010, 12:37:35 AM
I'm sorry. I'm laughing anyway. :D

I actually rather like the imagery. It has a sort of absurd efficiency about it. I actually think it might work, but you're going to want some pretty serious line.

Anyone who tries this, just promise me you'll never say, "Hey y'all, watch this!"

I live in Ky, and we know how many ideas that seem to make a lot of sense can to horribly wrong.

M
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: 1377x March 24, 2010, 01:45:53 AM
on american airgunner tv show they were taking down feral pigs with an airgun
just dont remember which one(s)
some of the shots were close
its not american airgunner but here it is
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDtxzUR422w
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: djmyers March 24, 2010, 05:42:32 AM
I disagree with y'all on this one. It's all about shot placement. The perfectly placed shot to the testicles would probably drop a pig. I'm 190 lbs and I'm pretty sure it would drop me and probably blow my eyes out in the process. Would be laying there like a grouper that just came up from 900 ft. Lol

yeah not really. A friend of mine shot a hog twice with 308 about 4 inches apart. She hit both nicE heart shots and it still killed a couple dogs on the way out. Was about a 300 lb pig but still 2 shots from a 308. Man that's a bad mofo. I wouldn't even atempt with a pellet rifle.
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: airiscool March 24, 2010, 06:26:22 AM
DJ.   It would be a rather "nutty" thing to try !!!!  :D  :D


As far as hunting any critter, it's better to have too much gun... than find out you didn't have enough. And if you have to ask - most likely you need a bigger gun.  

Paul.
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: N_Strike March 24, 2010, 06:51:43 AM


As I suspected,today I went to that friend and no boars in sight :emoticon: .I'll try tomorrow at dask when they seem more active (at least is what they told me...)



I'll bring with me my bow with some arrow I bought just for the party :p (usually I shoot woodden arrow with hand crafted tops in the 15th century style).



Anyway I have a bit of idea of how tough these hogs are,I had for3 years a 80lb potbelly pig as a pet and "she" was fu**ing hard.



I'll keep you informed...



Emi.

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: shadow March 24, 2010, 07:01:52 AM
I'm sitting on the fence on this one but I do realize that it takes a great shot to the right location to put a hurting on the pork. Their showing up here and becoming a problem with the farmers up north and the DnR want's them dropped on the spot. I still want to give em a go hehe and growing up on a farm with some very large pig's I've seen some thing's that got me thinking. :o Here's a story of a young lad on a farm and spending the morning trying to round up several boar's that had rooted their way out of the pen. There they are father and son chasing these 250lb pig's around the yard and trying to direct them back towards the open gate to the pen. One boar just doesn't want to go so the father which was very upset at this time pick's up a stone about the size of a baseball and throw's a fast pitch at the boar from about 12yrds away. To the boy's surprise the stone strikes the boar dead center between the eyes followed be another surprise as the boar drop's to it's side and go's into a pig style death dance. :o  The dance went on for several minutes then stopped and the father and son approached the heap of pork slowly and then gave it several pokes with a garden rake, we have a dead pig here. My dad was as shocked as I was as we looked down at the boar and then at the stone that had dropped him, never have forgotten that day mostly because I had to dress out that big sucker and I had a day of river fishing planned. Call it a lucky shot or hitting the sweetspot with a stone but my dad and I still bring up that day, he laughs and I curse that pig for a missed fishing trip. Ed
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: N_Strike March 24, 2010, 07:18:14 AM
Thanks Ed this story is really funny,I still find hard to imagine a 250 lb hog killed with a stone thrown between the eyes. :) I wish I'd be so "lucky", maybe before going to that friend I should plan a fishing trip too :p .
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: shadow March 24, 2010, 07:28:24 AM
I think it was perfect connection of stone and skull giving him a hemorrage from the sudden blow of the stone medically speaking hehehe. Ed
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: jake March 24, 2010, 10:39:24 AM
well, it seems like everyone answered your questions, so im just here to withy uo luck with whatever you do!
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: Meann-Machine March 24, 2010, 12:12:14 PM
Check the Gamo web site. They have a couple of wild boar by air riflekills on video with. It all comes down to how close you are and how exact your shot is. Looks like a skull shot in between the eye and the ear.
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: joeblow March 24, 2010, 12:52:08 PM
yep i agree if you can group your .22 in nickel size groups at 20 yds 2 inches behind the eye at 15 to 20 yds, will drop it like a hot rock. every time!! there skulls are thin behind the eye a 25 fpe .22 will easily go deep into the brain probably make to the other side of the skull. hell i'd give it a try. why not. if you can group them consistently . give it a try. just keep a .44 mag by your side in case you get a flier. and *_*_*_*_*_* it off. have fun and get some pics if you do it!!!
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: Wade.S March 26, 2010, 09:31:42 AM
My option is that you should not try taking a pig with the 22 cal AR. If in doubt you should probly not try it. As far as the long bow with a 60 pound pull is plenty. I have a long bow with a 74 pound pull and I have shot a buffalo at about 35 yards. I was shooting a double bladed broad head and managed to hit a rib square on so as not to even touch the muscle between the rib. The arrow still had enough power to penetrate to the fleches, it was a one shot kill. I was also however using the thin carbon fiber shafts that I weighted for additional penetration.