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General Discussion To Gateway To Airguns => Airgun Gate => : Uncle J March 30, 2010, 12:06:20 AM
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If your wife gave you the go ahead to push the button on either a Beeman R9 double gold combo or the Benjamin Maurader, what would be the choice you guys would make. My wife said I could have my Birthday and Christmas early and I'm facing that decision and it's killing me.
Jeff
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Well don't let the problem kill you. Go for the R-9. Timeless Classic. Easy to sell if need be. Complete as a package. No fuss, No Muss.
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You cannot go wrong with an R-9.. Great shooting gun. Less overhead to shoot. Get the PCP next time your wife gives you the go ahead...:)
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Well since they are different types (one spring one PCP) I guess it depends on which one you want. If you don't have a PCP yet, you might go for the M-Rod. But then you'll need some form of charging gear (pump, tank hoses) to get started, which will cost more money. The good thing is once you buy the charging equip, you can uses it for other PCP's with little or no modifications except for maybe a different adapter/fitting. If you already own the charging gear, even better. The good thing about the R-9 is it's self contained and ready to go out of the box. The R-9 home tunes easily, with several aftermarket kits available if you ever want to try your hand at it. Any pro tuner can easily tune your R-9 if you don't want to DYI. So, really the question is what type of rifle will your next purchase be, PCP or spring? Once you decide that then the choice is (relatively) easy.
Nathan
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Hmmm... I already have a charging system so the answer for me is real easy. On the other hand the R-9 is one that will be around forever sorry I ever sold mine and they were cheap then. If you don't have a charging system for the Mrod ( forget the pump ) I'm going to side with the boys and say the R-9. You know maybe you can talk mama into a base model R-9 and a scuba tank with charging adapter ;-). Just a thought.
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Very good point Nathan...
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The first thing I would say is who are you and what did you do with my wife? Lol I looked at pcps and for me all the extra stuff you need to charge it would have to get lugged around with it. So on top of my targets and chair then I would have to carry a scuba tank or pump and blah blah blah lots of stuff. I'd look like I was heading for a day of diving in the swamp with a pellet rifle.
That's why I will be sticking with spring guns and would pick the r-9. Like others have said it's self contained. Just pick up and shoot. Also when I go target shooting I will run through 100 shots easy. That's 3 fills with a pcp. 3 fills equals alot of pumping. These are just my reasons.
Good luck with the choice.
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That's an easy one :) Get the R-9 !! You won't be sorry !!
Jeff
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Im with you guys kind of because all i have are springers.But i have had my eye on a mrod for awhile the magazine feature looks very fun and if you dont own a pcp youre wife will have to let you get a tank or a pump an d anything you need to use youre new toy.So the pcp may just be the better gift.imo.
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id go pcp myself....after shooting my 1st pcp i was very impressed. i dont think ill be getting a springer for a long time.....
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Well Jeff,
I don't know what you have in your cache/ collection ?
If you have what you feel are enough springer's, the Marauder is the air gun for you. Remember that you have to start some where, so why not start now ! If you can shoot it out back, without problems, go for the MRod :)
I have a R-9 Goldfinger and I love her ! And some day I may go for a Marauder ;) I have a Discovery coming soon, so I have started my journey to the DARK SIDE !
Bill
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You guys have not been a lot of help, just when I think I know which way I'm gonna go, one of you makes a good point the other way. One of these days when you read one of my posts it will say at the bottom, beware of the man who has two guns, because he probably knows how to use them.
Thanks guys, when i make my decision I will send pics.
Jeff
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I looked at the dark side and it's looks nice over there, no hold sensitive, 10 shot repeater, leave it cocked and don't worry, have a springer I like already. I think I'm getting sucked to the dark side.
Jeff
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Bill,
I saw that Discovery you bought and I almost jumped on it, good deal.
Jeff
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from a man who has over 100 guns, I say get more, theres never too many or enough buy both and get wife some flowers & wine. If you end up alone you got the guns LOL kind of . and fear the man who can pick up any gun and use it WELL!!! RANGERS FORWARD P.S I can get you a scuba tank at a good price I think?
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Once you start shootin PCP's it over I shot my brothers M-Rod over the weekend and its a whole different animal I ordered an M-Rod and I'm left handed! I have a GD M-Rod in tow but don't know when it'll get here its already over due so couldn't wait and bought a stock one! so if you can swing an M-Rod do it!
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One thing nice with the M-Rods is they are right handed and wrong handed. So even the handicapped wrong handed can shoot...:) :)
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yep your right Gene I liked it so much I don't care if its right handed for now I can have it converted later to a left handed gun after I get my other one from Greg Davis then I'll have 2!
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Jeff,
Happy Birthday and Merry Christmas! I'm like'n the deal so far, God Bless your dear wife.
Regarding your choices, the springer looks like a classic but as mentioned already, if you have a springer you want, my money goes with a PCP. I went over to Pyramid's site and they're sold out for now on the Marauder. But I watched the videos and almost took out my credit card and pre ordered. I don't want to hijack this thread with my questions - being a noob I have a lot. But my initial observation is that the Marauder looks a bit chunky or clunky... maybe that's takes some getting used to being that I'm used to the sleek lines of a springer. That said, the performance and features (multishot mag) seem hard to sneeze at. I've been leaning towards the Air Force guns. I was initially attracted to them by their looks - again something I need to get over.
In any case, it looks like you'll be working on the "honey-do" list for a while after you make your choice. Christmas is a long way away, I hope you get some time off from your kitchen duties to shoot your new gun. Looking forward to your photos!
Jim
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If you've got a springer you really like already, I 'd go with the MRod. I have a springer that I'll never sell, but I don't think I'll be buying another springer for a long time. I vote MRod.
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I would have to say to anyone who wants to buy a PCP gun if you can afford to buy a repeater to do so, that 10 shot mag is hard to beat in a hunting situitation! you can put a lot of game on the ground in a hurry especialy in a murder of crows or other group of pest birds! cause you don't have to unshoulder the rifle to reload it and you can crank off 10 shots as fast as you can work the bolt and get sighted on the target! JMHO
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Jeff, from my perspective, I'd go with the Marauder...but that's what I did. I have a Marauder and it is an awesome 'machine'. I'm shooting straight pins and killing them at 10 meters. Outside I'm shooting pine cones at 30 meters....it's not hold sensitive or anything sensitive. Just really really accurate. This rifle is my go-to when the springers/gassers won't hold a group. You won't be disappointed with the performance of the Marauder. It hits hard and is extremely accurate. It's quiet. I can't speak for the Beeman R9...some day I may get one, but I can tall you the Marauder is really AWESOME!!! for accuracy, quietness, and hitting power.
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Uncle J - 3/29/2010 8:06 AM
If your wife gave you the go ahead to push the button on either a Beeman R9 double gold combo or the Benjamin Maurader, what would be the choice you guys would make. My wife said I could have my Birthday and Christmas early and I'm facing that decision and it's killing me.
Jeff
Tough call. I have one springer (TX200) and one PCP (S410). They're both great. I probably shoot the PCP more than the springer lately, but that's mostly because the TX is so darn heavy compared to the S410, and not because it isn't a great rifle. Both are exceptionally accurate, although I have to give a nod to the TX not because it's more accurate, but because the power level is fixed. The S410 lets you adjust the power level, which of course also affects the trajectory. The M-Rod is also adjustable, but it requires tools to do it, so it may actually edge out the S410 in this regard -- you set the power and forget it. On the S410, it is possible to bump the adjuster wheel and not notice it, and then you wonder why your distance shots aren't doing what you expect.
Don't let the whole pump/tank/paraphernalia thing stop you from getting a PCP. I got a Hill pump for the 410, and it's not a huge deal to recharge when the gun runs low. Proabably takes about 2 minutes or so (I never timed it) to pump it back up, and only the last 6 or 7 strokes are particularly difficult. And then you're good to go for a whole pile of shots, depending on how you set up the power level on the gun. The R9 will require you to break open the barrel every shot.
The 10 round magazine is really nice, although, at least on the S410, it limits the types of pellets you can use. Some of the wadcutters don't feed real well, so I stick to round nose or hollow points. Nice not to have to get out of position to take additional shots.
Russ
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Ok, I'm sold on the Mrod, I hit the button twice today, it was back ordered both places, left my name and number with Precision Gun and supplies, said he would call me as soon as he got some in. Pyrmid Air was also back ordered.
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Don't think you will regret it Jeff. The Marauder is a really fantastic rifle. I'm shooting straight pins at 10 meters now...and hitting 5 out of 5.
If you wind up not liking the Marauder and can't return it, let me know and maybe I'll buy her from you.
Semper Fi
Tom
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CaptZippy,
I'm sure I will be happy, I've been eye balling this rifle for quite some time, I've not heard anything bad yet.
Jeff
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I kinda sat this one out. I don't know what you already had, and what the budget was. I woulda said, go Marauder all the way, and add in the tank and stuff, IF you already had a springer.
There have been several well-documented Marauder issues in the past, mostly in the early production runs (I have #39 and there is no problem so far). The good news is the backing you get from Crosman, so I wouldn't hesitate on this, and I will probably get another one in twenty-five just 'cause. Plus the pistol.
They are famous for shipping with "dirty" barrels, which is probably preservative. Not a defect, and easily cured with Goo-Gone or cleaner of choice, swab dry and let stand before shooting. I am still amazed whenever I shoot the thing. I only shoot CPs throughthe .22and it is ridiculously accurate and quiet. As I often say, it doesn't replace my springers, it supplements them, and I love both. I am really happy with the 4500 psi cf tank (Joe Brancato) even though i choked on the initial investment. If you really want to spoil yourself, a Marauder and the tank are a good way to do it.
R9s are nice. Do y'all think they are that much better than a tuned B-26?
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Just hit the button and it went though at Manventure Outpost for $385.00, total S&H $416.33. Now the hard part, waiting for big brown to get here. Got a pump, rings and pellets from Pyramid Air $217.88 for a grand total $634.21 about the same price as the R9, but I'm going to have to rob a scope off another rifle, may pick up a center point 4x16X40 at wally world. Pictures to follow at a later date.
Jeff
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Got the Marauder today and all I can say is WOW, this is a one holer at 35 yards, wind was blowing but that didn't seem to bother it at all, shot two pigeons, one at 35 yards and the other at about 60 yards. The gun is a little heavy but I can get used to that. Using 14.3 grain Crosman Prieme,r the 500 count tin box. I will have to give two thumbs up to Manventure Outpost, they got it here in five days.
Jeff
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Looks really sharp!
If you're one-holing it at 35 yards, it's not just the gun that''s doing a good job!
Russ
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Thanks Russ for the compliment.
Jeff
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THAT IS BADA$$! I like the bi pod. 60 yard kills on the first day is impressive good shooting. SO how hard is it to pump up and get ready for shooting? We need details. lol This place is awesome. I find myself getting excited everytime somebody reports on their new toys. Looks good and good shooting.
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J, I don't know if you've read my brothers post on his M-Rod but he's using a 2800psi fill in his stock unadjusted rifle and it works so good I bought one and have been using the same pressures in my rifle and were getting about 40+ good shots on a fill but I don't let my pressure drop below 1800psi and it doesn't take a whole lot to pump it back to that pressure, w/ a 14.3 ccpp my rifle is aving 854fps unadjusted from the factory settings and has all the power for what I need to do with it right now, I do have a Greg Davis M-Rod due to arrive anytime now fully tuned w/LW bbl set up to shoot 16gr pellets w/a 3000psi fill we'll see how this one performs compared to a stock gun!
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May have to use next years Christmas and Birthday present to get an electric pump, not as easy as pumping up a basket ball. Took several pumps to get it up to 2500, probably about 30 shots down to 1800 psi, sweet spot seems to be around 2000 psi.
Jeff
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Thats the same area that mine and my bros seem to do well, ya thier not so easy to pump up all at once so just take your time I pump my rifle up slowly and when I feel the pump get a little warm I stop and let it cool down and take a break then go back and finish up this is why I told you about the 2800psi fill range, pumpin your gun up gets easier after awhile and its good exercise if you don't smoke and I don't smoke and can use the exercise anytime.
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I've been watching for your posts uncle J, I'm glad you finally got it home!!! keep us all posted, sounds too be a real shooter. do keep us up to date ,I think it's my next buy!!! is it hold sensitive?
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What is hold sensitive? LOL. No it is not hold sensitive, you can hold it anyway you want and it still hits what your aiming at.
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Well Welcome to the "DARK SIDE" Jeff :o
By the time you get tired of shootin one hole groups, it will be time for your next Christmas/ birthday present. Then you can go for the Beeman R-9 :o Just for the challenge of workin for your shots. :p
She's a sweet lookin baby !
Bill
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Hey Bill,
Glad to be a member of the dark side, I see a lot of the same guys here, some may be hiding, I see Gene over in the corner trying to hide, but there here. How's that Disco shooting, or have you had a chance to shoot it.
Jeff
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LOL Jeff. no, not had the time to shoot her.. But since Ed has been here he has shot her more than I have in the last 9 months or so..:) Next month I will be shooting them all..:)
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Mark 611,
Will be interested to hear how your tuned Mrod turns out, I don't know how you could improve the Mrod, but keep us posted. May bump my pressure up to 2800 to see how it performs, right now I'm getting about 30 shots at 2500 psi, 14.3 grain CP (tin box) not the cardboard box and very pleased.
Jeff
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I will keep you posted
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My 50 Yard group, 14.3 Crosman priemers tin box, 20 shots. These things will shoot. Crap I don't have any more excuses for missing now.
Jeff
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Well the wife told me that next week is my birthday so go ahead cause for the last month i had many people here and her go crazy trying to decide ,so here it goes a b40 .22 with a strap or sling however you want to call it but a great price also .im on my own on the next one but who knows when that will be ....jorge
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I have both and love both, would not sell one to buy another of the other. My 2 pence.