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General Discussion To Gateway To Airguns => Crosman-Benjamin Gate => : rocker1 May 06, 2010, 08:01:54 AM
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gamo pointed 7.56 g [ 1097 1097 1101 1102 1096 1096 1095 1097 1099 1100 ] . rws hollow point 6.9g [1198 1224 1228 1225 1220 1228 1230 1232 1228 1231 ] rws meisterkugeln [1120 1124 1128 1122 1122 1120 1126 1124 1121 1124] crossman premier pointed 7.9 [1142 1142 1145 1148 1144 1146 1142 1151 1146 1151 ] crossman destroyers[1146 1150 1151 1150 1156 1159 1153 1158 1156 1159] gamo rockets 1040 1032 1032 1037 1038 1037 1041 1035 1034 1038 ] i tryed to line this up on the page so it would be easier to read but did not have much luck, i quess i will figure it out some day. any way hope it helps some of these guys out here that know way more than i do about this rifle give you a idea of what it is. this was all the pellets i have nothing heavy. thanks david
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I don't know what the xl 1500 is, but try shooting heavier pellets.
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sorry about that it is a benjamine trail xl1500 177
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Yea, I'd try H&N Baracuda 10.65 grain or CP Heavy 10.5 grain pellets. That's a big powerplant in that airgun for such lightweight pellets.
Maybe even try Eun Jin 16.1 grain pellets too.
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It's supposed to shoot 1500 fps, but it looks like it's coming up way short, even with the 6.9 grain pellets. Why do the airgun manufacturers do that? They jack up the numbers to entice people to buy their guns, but when the people get their guns through the chronograph, it's shooting nowhere near the speed it at which is was rated. The bow manufacturers do the same thing and it drives me up the wall.
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Those are some pretty decent numbers you got going there. And those muzzle energies look like they're for a .22, not a .177 yowza! (http://../jscripts/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/smiley-cool.gif) Definitely need to grab some heavy pellets. I'm guessing this was a pretty loud chrony session :o
If you want to make stuff look all nice and purty you can us the table tool in the rich text editor. But honestly, most of the time I don't think it's worth all the work it takes to make it look nice:| Pellet | Gamo Pointed
| RWS HP
| RWS Meisterkugeln
| CP Pointed
| Crosman Destroyer
| Gamo Rocket
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| weight | 7.56
| 6.9
| 8.2 | 7.9
| 7.9 | 9.6 |
1
| 1097 | 1198
| 1120
| 1142
| 1146
| 1040
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| 2 | 1097 | 1224 | 1124 | 1142 | 1150 | 1032 |
| 3 | 1101 | 1228 | 1128 | 1145 | 1151 | 1032 |
| 4 | 1102 | 1225 | 1122 | 1148 | 1150 | 1037 |
5
| 1096
| 1220
| 1122
| 1144
| 1156
| 1038
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| 6 | 1096 | 1228 | 1120 | 1146 | 1159 | 1037 |
| 7 | 1095 | 1230 | 1126 | 1242 | 1153 | 1041 |
| 8 | 1097 | 1232 | 1124 | 1151 | 1158 | 1035 |
| 9 | 1099 | 1228 | 1121 | 1146 | 1156 | 1034 |
| 10 | 1100 | 1231 | 1124 | 1151 | 1159 | 1038 |
| lo | 1095 | 1198
| 1120
| 1142 | 1146 | 1032 |
| hi | 1102 | 1232 | 1128 | 1151 | 1159 | 1041 |
| mean | 1098 | 1224 | 1123 | 1146 | 1154 | 1036 |
| spread | 7 | 34 | 8 | 9 | 13 | 9 |
| M.E. | 20.2 | 23.0 | 23.0 | 23.0 | 23.4 |
22.9 |
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No were near 1500. Ya have to shoot cotton balls. lol
Ray
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Nah, can't shoot cotton balls either; it'll be like trying to throw a potato chip.
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i don't quess there are any springers or gas rams that shoot the advertised velocitys. i know my benjamine trail xl 1100 dosent' shoot 1100 fps either. we all buy these rifles because of advertisesd fps then we use heavy pellets to slow them down but it would still be nice to get what they advertise .
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well i went to the local wally world today and bought a pack of gamo pba raptor pellets , thought i would shoot them through the chrony to see what they would do 1492 1510 1497 thats all i am going to shoot through my rifle !!!! almost like dry firing it as far as i am concerned these pellets are a piece of crap will not be anymore through my rifle . so i quess i have 47 left . they are to light to be used as fishing weights the box my rifle came with says 1500 fps with alloy pellets well i quess they are right but it seems kinda like cheating. some one out there tell me what good they are for. thanks david
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hmmm... maybe you could give 47 people a "Golden Pellet Award" (http://../jscripts/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/smiley-wink.gif)
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Impressive numbers, The xl1500 is now on my short list. Have you had a chance to check the accuracy? What pellets do you intend to try next? It's hard to go wrong with some JSB or RWS pellets. All my air guns like said pellets. I'd like to have another break barrel gun with big power. I've had a few Crosman break barrels, which I gave away to family members. That was before I knew about tune jobs and pellet selection. They did not break down even with very heavy use, but they were not accurate enough for me. However, now I would send them off to Gene for tuning.
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Rocker, the gas ram can handle shooting alloy pellets. It's the coil spring that is susceptible to damage with too light and too heavy a pellet. The Trail XL's gas ram doesn't require a spring compressor to remove, so that tells me there's not a whole lot of preload on the gas ram. When the trigger is pulled and the piston has moved to the end of the shot cycle, it's not like the gas ram will want to extend that much further into the compression chamber causing damage like a spring with a lot of preload would. I'd hazard to say that it's probably safe to shoot the alloy pellets from the XL, but don't expect any semblance of accuracy from the PBAs.
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rocker1 - 5/7/2010 11:39 AM
i don't quess there are any springers or gas rams that shoot the advertised velocitys. i know my benjamine trail xl 1100 dosent' shoot 1100 fps either. we all buy these rifles because of advertisesd fps then we use heavy pellets to slow them down but it would still be nice to get what they advertise .
To give credit where credit may be due - I think Crosman comes close - certainly closer to advertised speed than Gamo !!!
Crosman says the Trail XL 1100 will do 1100fps with alloy pellets.
My XL did 1071fps with a Craptor. If that speed is then compensated for alititude, that's just about 1100fps. But accuracy is a guessing game. And, there's more noise because the Craptors are just about at the speed of sound, so the pellet adds it's "whip-crack" to the sound.
Paul.