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General Discussion To Gateway To Airguns => Airgun Gate => : fnash May 09, 2010, 04:33:48 PM

: Cometa Fenix 400 cocking problem
: fnash May 09, 2010, 04:33:48 PM
My Fenix 400 has a cocking problem in that it will not latch at times. It is getting more frequent. I have to release the safety and pull the trigger and try cocking again.  Anyone know a fix for this problem. As yet I have not tried to find the problem hoping for an answer here.
Frank
: RE: Cometa Fenix 400 cocking problem
: ezman604 May 09, 2010, 08:56:19 PM


Without seeing it, I'd guess either a broken or weak sear spring or the sear surface may need some attention. Someone may have tried to smooth out the action and taken too much off of the sear face. Just need to take the trigger group out and disassemble to see. Take it apart and post some photos.



Happy Shooting!!!!



Dave



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: Re: Cometa Fenix 400 cocking problem
: Mark 611 May 09, 2010, 09:54:34 PM
I know if you make your trigger adjustments  to light it can cause the sear to not have enough engagement and it wont hold or stay locked up, I just went thru this with my 2 new Omegas trying to adjust the triggers on them, the safty's would even pop out everytime I pulled the triggers and I'd have to reset them to cock the rifle untill I got the adjustments corrected again, and as said you could have a week spring but I'd try the adjustment and a little lube first these triggers arn't hard to work on Creeper had a post on the trigger group for these Fenix 400 guns so you might check the archives for this post it my help you out some!
: Re: Cometa Fenix 400 cocking problem
: ezman604 May 09, 2010, 11:00:14 PM


Too early in the morning for me. (http://../jscripts/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/smiley-surprised.gif)



Excellent call Mark, slipped my feeble mind. LOL

: Re: Cometa Fenix 400 cocking problem
: Mark 611 May 09, 2010, 11:10:25 PM
I know better than that LOL!
: Re: Cometa Fenix 400 cocking problem
: Gene_SC May 10, 2010, 12:17:17 AM
I had the same problem with my 400. Only after about 100 shots the sear would not catch when cocking. I messed with the trigger safety as you did and it would then cock ok. I set it aside for when I had time I could tear it down and check out the trigger. Finally one day it would not cock at all so right then I took her in the shop and took her apart. I looked at all the parts that were related to the lockup and then proceeded to tear down the trigger. I found nothing worn or broken.

I put it back together and the same thing happened again. One time it would cock and next time it would not. So I ordered a new trigger assembly and installed it. That took care of the problem. It could be a real safety issue if it were to go off unexpectedly, so be carefully. I think Cometa had a batch of bad triggers.. Best of luck.
: RE: Cometa Fenix 400 cocking problem
: leftcoast1 May 10, 2010, 12:25:04 AM
The first thing I'll say is do not try and decock these guns. You can damage the trigger group which will cause it to not catch the piston. You can try holding the trigger down as you cock the gun then release the trigger when its cocked. Put a pellet in it and shoot it. Then repeat. I've seen this happen on 2 other Cometa guns. HTH
: Re: Cometa Fenix 400 cocking problem
: geewhiz380 May 10, 2010, 02:18:31 AM
im having to same problem yesterday i was shootin and then it wouldnt catch when cocking it however i been having this problem for awhile now but this time i guess thats it im so *_*_*_*_*_*ed off cause its fnash and me having this problem now ,im gonna open and check piece by piece .i always hold the arm when cocking its a habit of mine ,who fixes these problems so i could send it and get it over with ...jorge
: Re: Cometa Fenix 400 cocking problem
: ezman604 May 10, 2010, 04:21:22 AM


I feel your pain Jorge, so I'll buy that crappy old gun off of you. (http://../jscripts/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/smiley-laughing.gif)



Since it's broke, it's gotta be cheap!!! LOL

: Re: Cometa Fenix 400 cocking problem
: Mark 611 May 10, 2010, 04:48:46 AM
Your to funny Dave    LOL!
: Re: Cometa Fenix 400 cocking problem
: geewhiz380 May 10, 2010, 05:43:14 AM
EZMAN604 its not much of a deal many here might be of assistance .when i bought it i loved the accuratecy ,trigger,power ,noise level,stock ,i like them and im sorry but i will find a solution to the problem cause im in no rush ,thanks for the offer but i decline ,i wont sell it no matter what ,God Bless Us All.....jorge
: Re: Cometa Fenix 400 cocking problem
: ezman604 May 10, 2010, 07:36:08 AM


Just messin' with ya Jorge. Great gun and you will find the answer here. New trigger group may be the ticket, as Gene says. I'd have to try the trigger adjust and then tear it down to investigate.



Good luck brother!!!



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: Re: Cometa Fenix 400 cocking problem
: geewhiz380 May 10, 2010, 10:33:10 AM
We are family and its good to joke around i never get mad buddy .I didnt pay much last year much more less than what they have them now ,trust me they get them for about 160 to 170 and then sell it for 359 plus tax and shipping for each but they pay less many of us here were lucky cause of a friend .we bought them for about half the price they sell them now ,im workin on my right now and it seems im on the right track ,took it apart and put it together and tighten where it had to and loosen where needed and so far 50 shots later and its hanging on for how long i dont know but i hold the arm everytime i cock it so it wont slap me in the face and brake my nose ....jorge
: Re: Cometa Fenix 400 cocking problem
: Mark 611 May 14, 2010, 02:04:20 AM
Frank did you ever get you trigger problem fixed so the rifle would cock?
: Re: Cometa Fenix 400 cocking problem
: fnash May 14, 2010, 10:36:09 AM
Thanks for asking Mark.  James Manou of Manou Bros, Menlo Park CA Dealers, contacted me as he seen my post. Told me to send it in and they would take care of it. I owned it less than a year. So I sent it to them. Willl probably be two weeks or so before I get it back.  I can post here the results... Frank
: Re: Cometa Fenix 400 cocking problem
: Mark 611 May 14, 2010, 11:52:52 AM
Please do so !
: Re: Cometa Fenix 400 cocking problem
: Gene_SC May 14, 2010, 12:03:48 PM
Sure wish James Manou had been reading my first post a yeara and half ago about my Cometa not cocking..:) I could find no one here in the Continental US that had parts, So I ended up buying a new trigger assy from Chambers in the UK. If they are going to sell the Cometa here in the US we need a link in order to order parts or send them in for warrantee when we have problems.

Anyway I want to thank James Manou for stoppoing by and reading our forums.
: Re: Cometa Fenix 400 cocking problem
: Mark 611 May 14, 2010, 12:49:03 PM
Thats a good point Gene maybe someone should speak to James Manou and see what his thoughts are on the matter!
: Re: Cometa Fenix 400 cocking problem
: fnash May 14, 2010, 03:50:45 PM
I purchased my rifle from Joe Lamonica, Ronkonkoma NY last July when he was selling them. I don't know what happended to him. I did mention to him the problem as it started just after receiving it. He told me about the trigger pull reset. A year and a half ago the Manou Bros were not selling them. But recently it started acting up on almost every cocking effort and that is when I posted for a fix. I removed the stock and noticed the trigger was very dry. I lightly oiled it but that did not help. That is all I did to it, did not take it apart or anything like that. So I posted to see if I could get some good advise.... Frank
: Re: Cometa Fenix 400 cocking problem
: Mark 611 May 14, 2010, 11:20:16 PM
Well Frank you did and now the rest of need to do as Gene suggested and find a way to get parts and or warranty work done on the ones we have if ever needed!
: Re:Manou Brothers web site
: snookman May 15, 2010, 01:21:15 AM
They are the exclusive distributor of COMETA airguns in the USA. Here is a link. http://www.manoubros.com/?page_id=2

 snookman
: RE: Cometa Fenix 400 cocking problem
: daveshoot May 15, 2010, 01:59:01 AM


James Manou has shown a lot of interest in the Cometa reputation and may be able to help you out. I also had good luck corresponding with Cometa directly, in Spain, via their website. I exchanged emails with them before either Joe or James were involved (to get some springs and seals) and they communicated in excellent English and were very helpful.





Let us know what happens, please.

: Re: Cometa Fenix 400 cocking problem
: Mark 611 May 15, 2010, 02:00:56 AM
Dave what springs an seals did you get from them for what gun?
: RE: Cometa Fenix 400 cocking problem
: daveshoot May 15, 2010, 03:06:43 AM


For the RWS94. The RWS version of the Cometa Fenix 400 had softer steel springs than what they use now, and would relax over time. I had them ship a half dozen or so to an associate in Madrid, and he brought them over to a trade show. They were very reasonably priced, and they chucked a few seals in the bag (even though I hadn't requested them). I think I sent a couple to other GTA members who had the need.



I really don't need more springers, but "someday" I will thin the herd a little and get either a Fusion or a Compact Star. I just love the looks of those guns! I am also very eager to see what they introduce this summer in PCP.

: Re: Cometa Fenix 400 cocking problem
: Mark 611 May 15, 2010, 03:11:05 AM
yep me too I had spoke to James Manou and he had told me some 20cal versions of some rifles were gonna be coming out but he didn't say when, but I think the 400 series was one of them.
: Re: Cometa Fenix 400 cocking problem
: Gene_SC May 15, 2010, 04:16:01 AM


Yes T.W. Chambers carries allot of older and newer air gun parts. But if Manou Bros. will sell the parts that is even better..:)



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: Re: Cometa Fenix 400 cocking problem
: geewhiz380 May 15, 2010, 07:02:49 AM
fnash im happy to know there helping you but as for me im on my own hopefully my trusted friend i have will help me as soon he comes back from vacation and that is to change the trigger and matter as well tune it up also until then i think that if there are problems all over about the same problem we should be given help by the company .Its a recall thats needed or was all airrifles sent to joe/cuz was messed cause joe being my friend and a freiend to many here wouldnt sell damaged airrifles ,anyway where ever the problem came from had to be from the shop itself and not the seller,the manou brothers should at least help the rest of us that have the same problem cause i did buy one and one im waiting for ,i have a fenix400.22 cabrina,and fusion .22 in brown wood ,i love these airrifles and would nt mind buying the compact star .22 which are beautiful ,anyway at least they are taking care of fnash and that was very nice of them .Thanks to them u are happy once again cool ...God Bless Us All ...jorge
: Re: Cometa Fenix 400 cocking problem
: fnash May 15, 2010, 02:52:43 PM
Jorge, there does seem to be others that have the same problem. There was a statement  that the thought was there was a batch of bad triggers. Joe/Cuz from whom I purchased mine was not aware of any problem I am sure. He has seemed to have dropped out of the picture. It will be a couple of weeks before I get it back and will post the results... Frank