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General Discussion To Gateway To Airguns => Back Room => : CharlieDaTuna June 08, 2007, 04:33:23 PM

: Something you should know
: CharlieDaTuna June 08, 2007, 04:33:23 PM

I received this post awhile ago from one of our members that he saw on the YP’s Gamo page and brought it to my attention and as one of the original members of the GTA new it was not true. He was in fact one of the people that received the invitation.:o

Here was the post.

It had more to do with mining members' email addresses for the purpose of sending spam. - Steve in NC on Jun 8, 2007, 6: 02 PM

There is not the least bit of truth in that and Steve-in-NC knows it and so does the forum owner but being the person that he is will never admit to it. I never sent spam to anyone. It was his way and excuse to seek revenge because I helped build another forum and I, as he put it, “stabbed him in the back”. Almost everybody knew it then and knows it today.

Here is what actually happened and nearly everybody know it to be the truth, including both Steve’s.

When Gene and I began putting the GTA together, I informed Gene that I had a customer data base address book of nearly 300 customers. I told him that I would send out an open invitation to all of my customers inviting them to visit the new Gateway to Airguns forum. At that time Steve-in-NC and I were still working together and I had kept him abreast of what we were doing, discussed it and also informed him of the idea of I had of sending the invitations weeks in advance. Steve was well aware of the truth.

I prepared an open invitation to send to my customers that were to be sent out in groups of ten. After we had put the forum together I proceeded to do just that. I sent e-mail invitations to my “Customers” in groups of approximately 10.:) 

In my e-mail address book, there were a few names that were not past customers but they were in my address data base. In the process of setting up the mailing groups, they were included in the mailing. It seems that there were a few of those addresses that were members from the YP’s but not actually customers which is quite understandable because for years, it was the only forum that I actively participated. I wouldn't have even known the difference.

A couple of them had made a comment about receiving the invitation on the YP’s about recieving an invitation to the new GTA forum. Right away, the forum owner, Steve in CT, came unglued and accused me of “harvesting” the forum with the intention of sending out spam to all of his members. Bull!!! Both of the Steve’s knew that was not true then and they both know it to this day and one of the many reasons for all that has transpired since. It also gave him an excuse to slander me, delete any reference to me and attempt to destroy me, my website as well as the GTA forum. And as many of you know, it was so bad that he nearly destroyed his own forum, created havoc on other forums and lost a lot of the members. Anybody that posted on the GTA were banned from the YP’s. And it continues on to this day. However, with that said, almost everybody over there are a great bunch of people and nearly all of the YP membership were aware of the truth. Dozens of them came to both Gene and I both on our forum and in e-mails with support.

Bottom line…In all of the invitations that I sent out, I had just one person that e-mailed me and asked me to remove him from my customer mailing list which I did and e-mailed him an apology. Other than that, out of nearly 300 invitations that were sent out, I had not received one single complaint. :p

That’s how it went. Why do I bring it up??? Because you as members of the forum should be aware of the truth and when you see this kind of misinformation over there as I’m sure some do, I’m sure for some it brings up questions. But you guys, especially the ones that have been with us from the early days, can relate.:)

But with all of that, Gene and I as well as you guys that hung in there and look what we have today. And it wasn’t cuz of no spam either. :)  And ya know what else guys??? His claim that he would"bury" us never came to pass and we just keep goin' and growin'. I just luv it here... 8)

AIN’T THIS A GREAT PLACE TO BE??????

Thanks guys…… and gals.
  8)

: RE: Something you should know
: shadow June 08, 2007, 09:53:47 PM

Good will always prevail and I'm proud to be a member of GTA. 8) Ed

: RE: Something you should know
: June 09, 2007, 01:04:46 AM

Hi all,
I had never been on any of the forums and had contacted Bob looking for information.
In his reply to me with the information he mentioned that there were people on forums
that could and would help.  He then invited me to look at the GTA.
I have since found out about some of the other forums.
I have read some posts there and I will say I am glad that Bob sent me an invitation to join here.  
I did not know what I missed and if I had browsed some of the others first
 I might not have joined any of them.

Its all the good people here that make it so good.
Thanks to everyone here for helping me and making this forum what it is today.

: RE: Something you should know
: Gene_SC June 09, 2007, 01:19:20 AM

And Bob is right about allot of the members on the Yellow forum. They are just like us and love the hobby and sport of the air guns. Many of them are also members here but do not mention that fact due to retaliation. They like to visit other forums and read other posts like we do without getting bashed or slammed for being a member on the GTA. I can respect that and welcome any one from the yellow forum to come and participate here. It only makes our hobby, sport grow stronger.. And I might add the GTA does not practice the things that the yellow forum practices as far as banning or deleting posts that mention the yellow forum or any of its contents..:)

As far as Bob and me are concerned, we look at ourselves as equal members here on the GTA. And of course this is your forum by all rights..:) You as members run this forum and have the freedom to post anything that you want concerning air guns and even off topics in the Back Room Forum. Of course we do have some rules but for the most part everyone respects them and adheres to them.

This is a great place to be a part of...:) but I am bios.. hehe

Gene

: Seems the only thing that was buried is Fun Supply'
: 3n00n June 09, 2007, 01:46:03 AM

The only rules James had when he was still with us was no 'bashing' and respect his company Fun Supply and don't blatantly advertise other dealers. Care to guess if either of those rules apply in 'yellowland' now?(http://forums.beerandshots.com/images/smilies/nazi.gif)

: RE: Something you should know
: Big_Bill June 09, 2007, 05:47:28 AM

Well, Bob and Gene,

When all is said and done, BOTH of YOU have made an OUTSTANDING AIRGUN FORUM for ALL of US AIRGUN ENTHUSIASTS !

And I am PROUD to be a MEMBER HERE on the G.T.A. Forums !

If what they said were true, You and Gene would not be here today. If his trigger was any good, the GRT-III wouldn't be selling Internationally today. Sour grapes may turn into wine, but a whiner never becomes a success, just a noisy failure.

I have read many posts on Old Yellow, concerning Gamo trigger tunes, and even the members there tell the person posting, to send them an e-mail, and why you might ask ? To tell the person asking about the GRT-III Trigger/ Sear !

What makes Bob and Gene great is, when rich in mich, was here, Gene and Bob never stopped him from hocking his "tunes and trigger fix", but now he's gone, he doesn't have a good word for any of us ! Now to me, that's not right at all.

Long Live the GTA !

THEGREATEST PLACE TO BE !

: RE: Something you should know
: dw33 June 09, 2007, 10:50:41 AM

I like this site.  The members are easy going and helpful.

: Re: Something you should know
: plateshooter June 09, 2007, 11:00:21 AM

I think all this drama has been a benefit to all air gun fans.  We have a place to get quality parts, at very fair pricing from someone who cares about his customers.

It doesn't get any better than that.

: RE: Something you should know
: DAMAGE June 09, 2007, 01:46:35 PM

There are only two forums I visit the GTA & the NZ forums they are the two best forums online and all I need  Gene & Bob you guys have done a top job here & I don't give a toss what those other tools say I know of one of them and his stupid little games I also know you guys are far better than that. Stay strong and keep up the good work.

: Hey Damage...good seein' ya
: CharlieDaTuna June 09, 2007, 03:17:55 PM

and thanks. Ya oughta come on up to the SC Shootout next week. And bring some possums for targets...lol...

: Re: Something you should know
: June 09, 2007, 06:32:12 PM

I have looked around. I don't join many forums. I joined here because it was laid back with a decent and knowledgeable membership. It helps that there are alot of Gamo freaks here as well ;)

Mark