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General Discussion To Gateway To Airguns => Gamo Gate => : davee1 September 08, 2007, 01:36:46 PM
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Today it happened to me. I never thought it would. Somehow, someway...I dryfired my CFX .22
Now I'm developing the habit of checking the breech to see if it will open if I'm unsure about the status. It wont open unless its already been cocked.
I haven't seen any performance drop or anything, so I think its ok. It sounded like a firearm going off when it happened.
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She should be alright, I've done it a few time's in the past myself with some of my gal's. Now did I load a pellet in there or not. :o Ed
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Gamo used to claim that their rifles could be dry-fired, although now they are saying:
"No, spring piston air rifles should not be dry fired. Gamo engineers have done extensive testing to determine the damage caused by dry firing and as a result have increased the strength and durability in the power plant to better handle harsh punishment. Dry firing can still damage the system and is not recommended."
In any event, I wouldn't worry about a single dry-fire.
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Exactly. Good to know I'm not the only one and yours is still kickin after a few dryfires. My heart sank when it happened. But I guess she's ok....
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Thanx Vince...I'm feelin a whole lot better about it now...good to know. It felt kinda like I accidentally stepped on a dog's paw...you know how they yelp, and then you feel scared, angry, sad, and sorry all at the same time? That was pretty much me when I dryfired her. :)
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I have accidentally dry fired both my CFXs a couple of times. It is disconcerting, but neither one seems the worse for wear.
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Good to know. I'm thinking of starting a Dryfires Ananamous chapter. Where we can all hang our heads, kick rocks, and say stuff like: "Hi, my name is Dave....and I've dryfired". And then everybody looks up from hangin their heads and chimes in "Hi Dave, so have we"...and then the call of a crow perks everybody up and we scatter.:)
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I have to admit that I also have dry fired my CFX once. I guess I just had a "senior moment" and forgot to pop the pellet in, but I realized it as soon as I pulled the trigger. Gun is fine, didn't do no damage.
Jeff
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Was there any cursing? Strategies to prevent further dryfires? Looking around to see if anyone witnessed the event? A sheepish feeling? These are all signs ofDAGA...Dryfire And Guilt Afterward.:)
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davee1 - 9/9/2007 11:39 AM Was there any cursing? Strategies to prevent further dryfires? Looking around to see if anyone witnessed the event? A sheepish feeling? These are all signs ofDAGA...Dryfire And Guilt Afterward.:)
lol Dave! ... like tripping on some uneven side walk and glaring at it as if it jumped out tripped you... just in case
some one swa it happen hehe!! :D
been there... done that.
Roald.
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hehe :)
Gotta get those chuckles outta folks...makes me feel good. Seriously though, I thought for sure the cops were gonna show up, cause my ears were ringin, and it just sounded like a gun went off. Of course, it wouldn't be the 1st detonation that my neighbors have heard...but I kept a pretty low profile after that cracker. It sounded about like a firecracker.
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Hi...my name is Stoo Tupid (Hi Stoo!). I'm a single-event, dry fire addict. Woe is me! Oh! Woe is me! I've also cleaned my air rifles, just once, with...oh my God...a BRASS ROD with dry patches. The HUMANITY of it all...DOH!
Charles
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Dude.........??? Don't jump....there's always other times to dryfire. Maybe....well....maybe you could click some framing nails together or sumthin.
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So far i have dryfired my CFX twice, both times by accidentally leaving the breach open. They really should have manufactured it so that you couldn't fire until the breech was closed.
But I dont think dry-firing with the breech open damages the gun much at all. If you think about it, what damages a gun in a dryfire is the piston slamming against steel without the cushion of air the pellet provides. When the piston is left open the air can only leak out very slowly so the piston doesnt slam against the metal. When you dry fire it by accident again sometime you'll hear a hiss as the air comes out--slowly might i add.
But you dry-fired it by not loading a pellet, so yeah that's just as bad as doing it to any other gun :)
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After reading these posts you would think that everybody would be extra careful. Not me. :0 . Yesterday I did it :emoticon: . How could I? :o . I loaded up my tuned CFX with a pellet and never closed the breech port. :o . Fired it and ...Oh...the loud bang! Then comes the silence. Ears still ringing and heart racing, my eyes scanned the CFX still clutched in my hands for any sign of damage. Then I noticed the open breech with the pellet still sitting there :o ..OH MY GOD....WHAT HAVE I DONE?
OK..OK.. just cock the gun Greg, and....IT WON'T COCK :o ....OK put it down and it will be OK. A minute later I was able to cock the gun and test it to see if any real damage happened. Well the next three shots were not at all typical of this CFX. One bad three shot group at best. I thought the CFX was done :o
Then I settled down (I HAD THE SHAKES) and fired three more shots and... :D ...all three shots went through the same hole. Oh joy...Oh wonder....OH Boy I need help.lol.lol
Yes dry-firing is a problem. But that is just another reason why I visit this place.
Greg
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When you fire the CFX with the breech open, you are not dry firing the gun. Actually the conditions are just the opposite and can be more damaging than dry firing. There is a very strong possibility of excessive diesel back pressure and perhaps even detonation depending on the condition of the seal and at what point in the stroke it detonates. It can cause very early spring fatigue if nothing else and if excessive, collapse or even break the spring. Not a common occurrence but it does happen. Plus....there is a possibility of damaging (blowing out) the outer seal on the rotary breech.
Hey Jeff...don't do dat no mo...lol... 8) 8)
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Should we start up a class for CFX AAA. :p Ed
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I'm tellin ya.....Hi my name is Dave and I've dryfired....there's still a wrinkle in the chair I was sittin in from the clenchup.
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Gamo is still saying that their rifles can be dry fired...
http://www.gamo.com/?ID=26#link6
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but on the USA website....
Q.: Can the GAMO rifles be dry fired?
A.: No, spring piston air rifles should not be dry fired. Gamo engineers have done extensive testing to determine the damage caused by dry firing and as a result have increased the strength and durability in the power plant to better handle harsh punishment. Dry firing can still damage the system and is not recommended.
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the seal just can't take the abuse. The piston will punch through the seal. The pellet slows the piston down so it does not crash into the end of the chamber. Gamo would be smart to remove or reword that statement.
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PeakChick - 9/8/2007 11:22 PM
I have accidentally dry fired both my CFXs a couple of times. It is disconcerting, but neither one seems the worse for wear.
FWIW, Gamo says that you can dryfire all of their airguns without damaging them at all.
Apparently they dryfired one over a thousand times, took it apart to examine for signs of damage, and found none.
I still wouldn't make a habit of it, though.