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Gateway To Product Reviews => Air Gun Mods and Tunes => : Gene_SC February 12, 2008, 12:12:23 PM
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Well today I did not have any orders to fill and was sitting around watching the rain come down...:( CDT gave me a call to discuss some forum stuff and after we were done, I was telling him I really wanted to go out side and shoot but it was just to wet. I asked him what he was doing and he said he was expecting two air rifles in later today but had nothing going on in the morning. I said well do you have time to help me lube tune my HW 50s... That's all it took..:) He said why aren't you over here yet.. :) It has been a while since he had seen one of the HW 50's but has done many of them and the other HW models right along. I did not want to do anything by myself on this one because he had never shown me one apart on his bench before or assisted him on tuning one.
After pulling up in his driveway, I could see him busy working what looked like a pistola..:) Apparently Mike had sent Bob a Chinese pistola. I can't remember the model but he had just finished tuning it and the trigger as well..I am not a pistola kinda guy but he ask me to shoot it...:) I actually had shot it a week ago and was not very impressed...:) but today things had changed to the better. This pistola cocked real smooth and easy now and shot fantastic.. Even better than my P-17 which I have never taken apart. Oh well maybe Bob can tell you guys what it was I shot..:)
Back to the HW 50. Bob cocked and loaded a pellet and took a couple shots. He said this thing is nice but has a bit of springnoise. Before you knew it Bob had pulled the action out of the stock and was looking it over. Next he explained to me what the difference was with the build on these type of air rifles. Not the same as you regular run of the mill air rifles for sure. I stood back and watched, listened and learned a great deal as he was explaining to me everything he was doing as he tore down the action completely. Barrel, cocking lever, piston, spring, guide, trigger and everything else was now laying on the bench..:) I watched him use special made tools to disassemble the HW 50. Tools he had made specifically to tear down and tune these air rifles. Unlike most of the air rifles that I have seen made in Spain, China, Turkey, Brazil and other countries, all the parts were very high quality steel right down to the trigger assembly. No skimping or weak links in the structure of this air rifle. Even the seal was un-blemished from assembly.So now I just watched as CDT did his work. Since it was a basic tune, cross hatch and lube it was ready in a couple hours . Bob did manage to find a few burs and used the dremel on them. Now he asked me if I would like him to adjust the trigger for a lighter pull. I said yes and off he went to the other end of the bench, first cleaning it in solvent and blow drying it. This trigger is like a Reckford trigger but he made mention that it was not a Reckford but as close to the quality of a Reckford as you could find. He handed me the trigger several times after making some adjustment till I felt the trigger was just right for me. By the way this trigger is made of top quality hardened polished steel from the factory. No burnishing was needed because of the high quality smooth surfaces of the parts. Now CDT puts everything back together very carefully lubing the right areas with the correct lubes. I think it was 6 or 7 in all that he used. So now he has it in the spring compressor and it falls back together just as it come apart.. After he was done with installing the trigger and safety along with the hardware he said ok take her and wipe her down and put your stock back on.. :) I quickly mounted the stock and wiped her down all over with a clean white towel. Now for the first shot. Grabbed up a Gamo Hunter round and place it in the port. Stepped outside and took the first shot after the tune. Dang it was even smoother than before..:) :) Could not ask much more ofa difference. The cocking cycle was always good from out of the box but after 500 plus shots the spring noise never got any better. This tune took care of it and boy am I as happy as a pig in S%^t..:)
Now Bob wants to shoot it...:) He loads up a pellet and steps out side and takes a shot. hmmmm he said.. That is really nice.. hehe.. So he said I am gonna take another shot to make sure the first one was not my imagination..:) Well he liked it very much. His fondest air rifle is the FWB 124 and he even said it shot as nice as that.. That means allot coming from CDT..:)
Besides the cocking and firing cycle being almost perfect the trigger is something that most guys and gals only dream of pulling..:)
We ran a few Hunter's across the chrony and it was a consistent 814 through 819. It is still too early to check for variations but I am sure the numbers will be very close.
I will be back with some targets and fps numbers at a later date...
Gene
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Darn...did we do all dat. :) Guess so. It is a great gun and turned out real well. I would never set a trigger up for a customer like I did on Gene's cuz it is tight. And not many triggers are capable of what the Rekord trigger is and still be safe. My only concern about doing it for Gene was that he might wind up shooting holes in tin cans........ :) with food in them........ :D ....in da kitchen.... :p :p
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Another great tune outa Bob's shop. :) Gene that's one fine looking shooter buddy and that would make a great critter getter too. Keep us posted buddy on her which I'm sure that she'll just keep gettin better, Ed
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Dangit Gene,
you know after we got off the phone tonight I started dreaming of that HW77K I had for a short time, now that I've read about how good your HW branded gun turned out I am wanting one of my own.....airgunners addiction!
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Dang Gene ; You really know how to make a guy feel bad about selling off one . Oh well, it'll be in a good home by tomorrow. They are sweet shooters .kirby
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Yes Kirby, the HW50 will be in a good home tomorrow. I wonder where that could be? Some place with a mountain Vista? 8)
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Well David, it looks like you are gonna have to find another one..:) Only after you get tired of shooting your PCP's..:) But you did find a good home for her, cause the Peak will take good care of her for you..:)
Gene
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You're right Gene , I think Stephanie will take good care of her . A perfect match . kirby
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LOL David.... I bet Peak has a nice butt pad as well...:) Just kidding Stephanie..:) It is the little boy in me that made me say that.. hehe
Gene
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I missed the boat last summer, couldn't wrangle another gun past the wife! Now NO ONE has HW50's!!!! I wait with baited breath for the next batch to arrive in the US! My wife got a $400 COACH purse last month so I am in the clear for a new toy. Now if I can find a nice walnut sporter stock that's not gonna cost me my first born (actually third, #1 and #2 are to ornery to trade!LOL), I'll be the happy guy I should be! Aloha all! :p
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What gun are you looking for a walnut stock for? I might know someone who can make you one, send me a PM.
Mike
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If you can wait a bit, Beeman has arranged with Weihrauch to import the HW50 again. As I understand a number of dealers will have access to them.
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Gene, How is she doing? I have one that is in need of some TLC. Please update and if you have, I will run across it. I'm reveiwing pass post for info. Thanks!
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Hey Bill, I love my HW 50s. They tune out great when in need..:) Email me when you are ready.
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Somebody just had to go and dig up this old thread and make me start missing my old HW50S , especially when I'm in a buying mood . I must resist , I must resist , I must resist. LOL kirby :emoticon:
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LOL David, Yes your HW 50s sure shoots nice buddy..:) I have let Tommy takeherfor a while to shoot. Have not heard a word from him since he borrowed it.. hehe I may have to give it a tune when I get her back..:)
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David, I thought, I would repay you becuaseif it was not for you... I would not own a HW50s. I beleive you were the first to own one and it was your reveiw and post that sold me so many moons ago. Just place a one in the box and push the button, No worries! I think I will send mine to Gene for a Turbo Tune and muzzle brake, LOL! Oh, the link! http://straightshooters.com/Weihrauch/hw50spricing.html
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Gene:
The HW-50 / .177 is a really great shooter! Thanks for the loan, buddy. You will probably get her back . . . sometime. LOL.. Wish I could be shooting this weekend, but alas, I have a meeting in Atlanta and haven't pulled a trigger since Thursday. Can't wait to get back.
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Thanks Bill ; LOL I really have been looking at them again . They shoot right at the velocity I like . and have one of the best triggers you'll ever put your finger on. kirby
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David, the HW50 I bought from you might be my favorite springer. Super accurate, just the right velocity/power. I'd had my eye on a HW50 for a few years. This is one rifle I'll never sell.
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I knew she went to a good home , Peak . Another one is on my maybe list . kirby