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General Discussion To Gateway To Airguns => Back Room => : March 04, 2008, 05:48:45 AM
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I just wanted you to know the GRT III has arrived!
What a wonderful piece of masterful work of ART!
Hell I am damn near sixty years old and feel like a kid in a candy store. Can't wait to install it. I don't have a clue how to disassemble the Gamo Shadow, but I think I can figure it out. So far from what I have read this is a VERY friendly forum and a nice group of guys.
THANK YOU! for the invitation to join. :emoticon:
So far If it works half as good as it looks it should be a breeze to install and shoot!
Just wanted to say THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR FINE SERVICE!
Gary
PS: PLEASE forgive me if this is posted in the wrong place!
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Welcome to the GTA Forums Gary,
We are glad that you found us, and yes, I believe we are the friendliest airgun forum out there! So Welcome, and feel free to ask any questions that you need answers to, as well as adding you advice or opinions here, as you are now one of us !
I know that you will be very happy with your new GRT-III trigger, and pleasantly surprised at just how much difference it makes. Just remember your range safety, don't touch the trigger until you have your sights on the target. She's not anything like that Gamo trigger, and I wouldn't want you to shoot your floor ! hehe...he
Keep us informed on your progress, and ask any questions that you want !
Bill
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Welcome to the GTA Gary,,,, nice to have you with us. You're gonna love that trigger once you get it installed. Just follow the directions that came with it,,,,, it's a snap.
Looking forward to your future posts....
Jeff
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Welcome Gary, were all family here so feel free to ask any question's and we'll all jump in and help. :) Ed
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THANK YOU ONE AND ALL;
This group sure has a way to make someone feel right at home right off the bat. I installed the GRT III and I will be real truthful Bob almost had me afraid to put it in. I have already custom built a 1911 and a Ruger10/22 with a barrel, bolt, hammer, trigger, sear and polish the entire inside just to make it silky smooth. All of those fancy instructions scared the hell out of me. Heck fire, if I did it right there was nothing to it. I will know for sure tomorrow when I can get more then three shots off. I cleaned out all the garbage oil and grease and installed some snake oil and Snake oil grease to help smooth things out. It was very smooth to begin with, a huge difference between the GRT III and factory. It is not quite a light as I like my triggers and still has a little creep but I want to put at least five hundred rounds through it before I try to make any adjustments. Looks to me like Bob has a good case for perfection going and I am not sure I am ready to try to improve it.
Being very new to Air-guns I am wondering if it takes a bunch of shooting before the groups to close up. I am trying to get at least half inch groups at ten yards. Then I will start to get fancy with it. I have bought at least six or eight different types of pellets to see what it likes. Any advice on this sure will be appreciated. It is not a real fancy Air-gun just a Gamo Shadow 1000 with a little BSA 3-12 X 44 AIR RIFLE SCOPE! I REALLY don't know what to expect. So far the real test will be tomorrow when I can get some shooting time in, I HOPE!
I know some of you guys have forgotten more then I will ever learn. So any and all advice will be written down for further action!
THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR TIME AND KINDNESS!
Gary
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I dunno how much experience you have shooting springers, but if it's not alot, it will take time for your groups to shrink. Springers show up our failings as riflemen far more than powder arms do.
I've been shooting at 10m in my basement range for about 5 or 6 months. Slowly becoming more consistant. when I started, I was pretty happy to get 3 shots within 1/2". After a few hundred rounds of practice, I was happy to get 5 into 1/2". Now I can often get 10 into that space, but always there's the chance of a flyer ruining my group. I'm careful about my pellets, the flyers are MY fault almost every time!
Practice for consistant hold and follow thru, and they'll improve! Be sure to figure out what pellets your gun likes best, tho, many have very specific preferences!
J
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THANK YOU FOR YOUR REPLY! I SURE HOPE TO GET MORE RESPONSES! Something tells me I should have started a new tread. I have almost NO experience with springers. The last one I had was an old Sheridan pump and that was almost fifty years ago. You see I have become disabled and this is the only way I can still shoot. LOL! While the wife is away at work I turn the living room and kitchen and family into a shooting range. At least I can shoot from my wheel chair that way. I know not the brightest, but I bought a good bullet trap and put several large boxes of foam behind the trap for fliers. Funny thing is it gives me arm exercises!
THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR TIME AND RESPONSE!
Gary :)
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Hey Gary, first off Welcome to the forum. :) I have a Gamo Shadow and after alot of practice, I found that mine likes to be held, just in front of the trigger guard, with a open palm, or pillow rest. Also a very light hold with my trigger hand. Give this a try and I think you'll see them groups start shrinkin. 8) There is also alot of info in the Library.
Mike
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THANK YOU for the heads up! Right now I am more worried about what the gun will do so I have built a bed for it to rest in so there is no movement even with that old factory trigger. That is why I am kind of excited to see how much movement I did not know was happening with the factory trigger. For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. I must learn to control the follow through. The rest is pretty god but not infallible. It's not a lead sled or anything like that. This is turning into a totally different experience to achieve perfection. Then we will try using the body or even a small rest. VERY INTERESTING SPORT, it is not just for kids!
Thanks again!
Gary
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Gary,
I'm glad you've found a sport you can practice despite your disability. I've jury rigged a shooting lane in my basement, and we've got a few members who shoot in the hallways of their apartments. Indoor shooting is a great advantage of the spring rifle!
Springers are what is know as "hold sensitive". That means that any difference in the way you hold the rifle from shot to shot will result in a change of POI from shot to shot. Your old pumper wasn't a springer, and wasn't as hold sensitive.
The hold that works best for most spring rifles is to place your non-shooting hand under the stock about where the rifle will balance. That's usually a couple inches ahead of the trigger guard, and may feel quite close to a firearm user, but you'll get used to it. That hand also does not grip the stock, it's open flat, and the stock just lays in it. The shooting hand grips the pistol grip only enough to guide the gun, and the gun is lightly shouldered (touching, not buried!). I read on Tom Gaylord's blog, and found it to be true, that the best way to shoot good groups is to get into your hold, get all ready, aim at the bullseye... Now, close your eyes and count to 5... Still on target? If so, shoot. If you drifted, you're forcing yourself on target, so try to reset so that just slumped there, you're on. The goal is for the shooter to be almost dead weight behind the gun, a mass that recoils the same each time.
Then it's just up to you to pull that trigger ever so carefully.... Sweetening that trigger up will help some, but with practice, many find those Gamo triggers wear in to be smoother, but they're allways heavy. Charlie's trigger gets glowing reviews, and anyone can install it!
The hold sensitivity thing makes it tricky to bench a springer. Most find the best results come if the gun is still only touched by the shooter (not on a bench pillow), and the shooter's hand rests on the pillow. I think this is because the pillow responds differently to the recoil than the pillow does.
Follow thru, as you know, is absolutely key. The recoil is done so long (in gun terms) before the pellet leaves the barrel, it's important to stay on target till it's all over.
What a great sport we have in airgunning! One could start shooting springers as a child, and still have stuff to learn and room to improve when he's enjoying it in his retirement!
Have fun, Gary, and be sure your backstop is up to the task! Even 4" of lumber will be blown thru if you're target shooting long enough....
J