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General Discussion To Gateway To Airguns => Gamo Gate => : daved August 27, 2006, 12:54:03 PM
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In the process of doing other things to my CFX, I happened to pull off the recoil pad, only to discover that the stock is hollow. Now here's the silly idea. Since more weight tends to increase stability and decrease recoil of almost any kind of shooting iron, would adding some weight in the hollow stock be an advantage? Say, use lead shotgun shot, like a dead blow hammer is filled with. Since my CFX is on its way back from Charlie, I haven't had a chance to give this a whirl. But if anyone has tried something similar, I'd like to hear the results. And if not, I'll post my results when/if I get around to actually trying it. I intend to make a custom thumbhole stock out of Ipe, a very dense, heavy tropical hardwood. At about 68 lbs. per cubic foot, I should end up with a CFX that weighs about 20 lbs. That should soak up a lot of recoil! Later.
Dave
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for that application, I'd use lead roof flashing because you can just fold it and stuff it in with little work
Just my silly idea
Another silly idea is to use your old mashed pellets from you target, and make a mold with plaster and cast a custom-fitted weight
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Will often fill them with expanding foam just becasue I don't like the hollow sound they make.
Shot would end to rattle a bit unless glued in place...might look for sheets as sugested in the other post than can be glued and unglued as the urge strikes you.
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molding and casting old lead would make a custom-fit part that doesn't rattle too much ;) :) :)
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wouldn't rattle, and it WOULD add weight...
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I heard somewhere the same thing Ribbonstone is describing. Age being what it is I don't really remember weather the rifle in question was a CFX or an S1K. The person making the post wasn't interested in weight, he just wanted to get rid of the hollow stock's tendency to amplify noise. Expanding foam seemed to do the trick & it's available at Home Depot in a reasonably sized can.
Mike
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That should work...have to think of it as permanent as getting foam out once it's seat is next to impossible. So I'd experiment with weights without foam...make sure you get a combination you can live with...and have at it.
(Be aware that the stuff expands like crazy, and once it sets up, is nearly impossible to remove. So I'd be dead sure the hollow you intend on filling is sealed off with no trigger openings, etc....mask off the butt of the gun...and deal with the excess foam before it truely sets up rock hard.)
Personally, want the weight more to the front than the butt...just like the "hang" of a muzzle heavy gun.
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Did it first on a syn. stcked rem. 308...seems that hollow stock not only made a noise when it thumped into a twig, but it kind of "boomed" when fired (picked up the sound and fed it into your head through bone conductivity). Worked in that application, so decided to try it on a Gamo air rifle.
Same results...removed most of the hollow "twock" when it striks a branch, and seemed to quiet the guna bit. Doesn't quiet the gun, but it lessens the noise conducted to the shooter, so it has the same effect.
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I filled the stock on my shadow with sand but first you have to plug the small hole that leads into the trigger with bog you have to put enough in though to make sure it wont come out then once shes dry fill with sand leave about 10mm and then cover with more bog to seal it in then replace ya rubber & away you go, It does make it heavy but shoots a lot better.
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I never realized that the S1K stock was hollow. I wonder if there is something else that one could fill the stock with besides sand. So it would not be so heavy but absorb recoil much better... Will have to think of something and let you guys toss it around or maybe someone else has a good idea.
Gene
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maybe put in something that would give a "dead-blow hammer" effect of neutralizing the kick??
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Foam Pillow stuffing is what I use.
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Did you notice a difference befoe and after Rich?
Gene
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Rifle had more of a soild sound, not hollow as before. Also the stuff has no weight to speak of.
I have filled all of the stocks on my Gamo's and the Winchesters also.
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So it is feathers or cotton you stuff the stocks with? And I assume when you shoot there is not cloud of feathers or cotton in the air....:)
Gene
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No just little chunks of foam rubber. LOL
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Hey, Ed,
Read my original post! I specifically said, "use lead shotgun shot, like a dead blow hammer is filled with". Looks like my silly idea isn't so silly after all :-). Someone thought it was worth moving back to the top. Thanks!
Dave
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Sorry Dave, I just forgot seeing it. Must be my meds :) :)
I went back, and there it was. I guess it lost itself on me, as it was a dense message, with lots of stuff in it and things began to melt together.
I'm a fan of inertial dampening too, so it fell out of my head.
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The Shadow weighs bout the same as the CFX now with the sand & shoots better it also absorbs better than any wooden air rifles i have used i wont be changing it & a heavier gun only aids in accurcy as for it being to heavy to carry round for hunting na not even i could easily triple it and be ok. :)
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You must mean the CFX Synthetic. When I get my new .20 cal barrel and put it on the new S1K, I may experiment with that idea Damage. Honestly I prefer a lighter rifle but as long as when it is done it does not weigh 9 lbs....:)
You must be a young corn fed good ol boy, Damage...:) ...:) Built big with strong shoulders... he he he....
Gene
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lol I'm not big but im no weakling either my brothers allways told me its not the size of the dog in the fight but the size of the fight in the dog usually told after they beat me up was hard growing up in a family of 9 me being the youngest woe is me lol i will get round to weighing it Gene and let ya know.
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Arrrrrrrrrr it weighs just under 10Lbs but i dont care cause I LIKE IT !!! lol with that weight & the hair trigger i put on it i can nail the same hole most of the time but have only tested it at 22 meters but it will nice for hunting them possums boy have they got a shock comming to them. 8)
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I went down to the local Ace Hardware store with the mind to buy some silicone gell to put inside the stock of my Shadow. The silicone is light weight so I decided instead to try a couple of tubes of Butyl Rubber instead. It weighs 10 ounces per tube. The Shadow takes about 1 3/4 tubes. So that means I have added about a pound to the butt of the gun. Which is fine with me as I think the Shadow is butt light anyhow.
I cut a patch off an old shot bag and used it for a plug for the hole by the trigger, put the tube in a caulking gun and filled up the stock. The additional weight should reduce recoil, thus reducing wear and tear on the scope and mounts. Any of you physics majors feel free to correct me, but the additional weight should also add a few fps to the pellet velocity also.