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General Discussion To Gateway To Airguns => Gamo Gate => : Gil April 06, 2008, 06:21:26 AM
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First of all id like to say that im new here and i really like these forums.
Now onto business; a few months ago i got a Gamo Big Cat, but now im thinking i want a better airrifle.
Of these three witch is the most accurate:
Gamo Viper
Gamo Whisper
Gamo CFX
If you have had experience with any of the above, it would be helpful if you listed your furthest kill.
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Gil,
The only one of these that I have had any dealings with is the Gamo CFX. Actually its my first Gamo rifle. I got it a couple of weeks ago and I really like it. The only thing that is a pain in the a&& is the loading. Once you get used to it, it aint that bad. As far as the farthest kill with it is a squirell, it was in my neighbors back yard (he didnt mind) and was up in a tree about 20+ foot. I paced it off @ 51 paces, so I figure its about 40-50 yards.
I also got the GRTIII trigger in her tho, WELL worth the money!!!!!!!! It shoots better than I can shoot it. I really like it.
Welcome to the forum, you will like it here. I have only been here for a short time myself. But alot of info is here, alot of great folks too!!
Kent
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Thanks, I think i will get the CFX then. Ill get the trigger and a super tune... man am i getting addicted to these things.
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Gill,
Yeah, it dont take long to get that way huh? Lots a fun, and still git rid of those pesky tree rats!!!!
Kent
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Them and those pigeons. The strangest thing happened to me the other day; i was sitting on a bench near wall mart and i hear almost like water hitting the ground next to me. I take a closer looker and it looks like poop and snot. So I look up to see what could have caused and i see this huge black pigeon. Never in my life have i seen a bird throw up. Oh well, their not safe from me anymore. hehehe.
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Yeah, I know what you mean. Between them tree rats and the crows and the starlings, I have plenty of targets out here tho!! Goinna have to get me a tree stand or something tho, when they see me coming outside, they scatter, so, I gotta kinda, really be sneeky anymore, and hell, I am too old for that!!!!
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I know what you mean about them scattering. When me and my friend used to go lizard hunting, after a while they would see us coming and would run. So we waited a while until they thought it was safe to come back.
Oh and is it safe to use Hoppes No.9 Solvent to clean my barrel with? Its not oil I hope.
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You will have to get an answer from someone else on that, not really for sure. Havent cleaned mine yet, probably gettin close to needing it tho.
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Gil,
They do have cleaning pellets, you might check them out. Heres a link to them from pyramydair.
http://pyramydair.com/cgi-bin/search.pl?cx=002970863286801882398%3Ajlcminxfwdw&cof=FORID%3A11%3BNB%3A1&q=cleaning+pellet&sa=Search&search_for=cleaning+pellet
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Alright well, thanks anyway. Ive used it maybe 3 or 4 times and nothing bad has happened so ill keep using it. Im gonna go shoot some birds now, see ya later.
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Thanks for the link. Right now im using sticks that i widdle so that they are skinny enough to fit through the barrel and just stuff a cleaning patch with some solvent on there to clean the barrel.
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I have the Whisper from Gamo and am very happy with it. It is quiet, powerful and pretty good quality. I have added the GRT II trigger and it is indeed an improvement in both accurency and feel. It also looks good, a gold trigger on the all black rifle. I shot a tree rat at about 35 yards with a head shot using a Gamo rocket pellet, even at this distance it went clean through his head, he was dead beore he hit the ground. I also shot a Crosman Quest, the moment you touch it you know it is a POS. Chineese quality junk, had rust on the barrel and the Chineese mystery wood stock broke after 250 shots. Would not reccomend this piece of crap to anyone. I also like the Beeman dual barrel. I comes with a .177 barrel and a .22 barrel, it does 1000fps in .177 and 850-900 with the .22 barrel. I saw them at Wallyworld for like 159 bucks in Naples Florida. I opened the box to check it out and seemed like very nice quality, maybe a littel heavy but whatever. Good lck, I would reccomend the Whisper for backyard hunting(it is quiet too!)
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Btw I shot a felt cleaning pellet out of my Whisper in the house and it hit my window from 5 ft away and cracked it!
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Wow, craacked the window?? Thats one tuff cleaning pellet......lol. So, do they work perty good? I have never tried them. Thanx,
Kent
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Gil, if you buy the CFX and you are going to do the turbo tune. I would talk to Bob and let him know that the big brown truck will be dropping off your new rifle. I wish I would have sent my Whisper straight to him. FYI I love my Whisper she shoots sweet, and I haven't had her tuned yet.
Dan L
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Welcome to the GTA Forums Gil,
He is a link to air gun cleaning: http://www.pyramydair.com/blog/2006/01/cleaning-airgun-barrels-stuff-you-need.html (http://www.pyramydair.com/blog/2006/01/cleaning-airgun-barrels-stuff-you-need.html)
All three of your Gamo selections are fine rifles, with the CFX being the most accurate by a hair, they all have the same power plant, and the Whisper is 1.32 lbs. lighter :)
The Big Cat is a fine rifle in the same power range of your three other selections, so choose the rifle that you like best !
I hope to see your posts in the near future, along with the rifle that you selected and your opinion if her !
Bill
P.S. Or, you could always buy all three ???
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Well, now im thinking i might get the whisper instead. I will be shooting in my backyard as well as in the desert. I also dont want the police breathing down my neck.
I also saw a video on the youtube and some guy had a whisper. He was hitting a piece of metal about the size of a NO PARKING sign from 100 yards.
And just so that i am positve about this: Zeroing a scope. For instance: say my rifle was shooting too low. I would adjust the elevation dial down toward were the pellet hit right?
because thats were the barrel is pointing and were the scope should be pointing.
Ive been trying to zero my scope perfectly for a while now and i keep messing it up.
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Well, now im thinking i might get the whisper instead. I will be shooting in my backyard as well as in the desert. I also dont want the police breathing down my neck.
I also saw a video on the youtube and some guy had a whisper. He was hitting a piece of metal about the size of a NO PARKING sign from 100 yards.
And just so that i am positve about this: Zeroing a scope. For instance: say my rifle was shooting too low. I would adjust the elevation dial down toward were the pellet hit right?
because thats were the barrel is pointing and were the scope should be pointing.
Ive been trying to zero my scope perfectly for a while now and i keep messing it up.
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I think that all Gamo rifle barrels are probably of comparable quality (that is, pretty good!). The fixed barrel and greater weight of the CFX does seem to translate into more accuracy for most shooters, although not by much.
The down side of the CFX is the awkward and slower loading. Some would say that it makes plinking less fun... but it's up to you.
BTW - the old Gamo 440 is still available at Natchez for $100... it's "old fashioned" with a solid steel barrel and wood stock, but it is still "the deal" among Gamo breakbarrels... the basic mechanicals haven't really changed with the newer models.
http://natchezss.com/category.cfm?contentID=productDetail&brand=GN&category=176&subCategory=176&catLevel=1&prodID=GN611005654
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Personally, I don't think cleaning pellets are a good thing. It's almost like dry firing the gun and that of course can cause spring damage. :0 You are far better off just making a pull through. It's easy and does a far better job too. (I like em tho cuz they bring me bizness... 8) 8)
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Of the three Gamos you mentioned...I think the CFX would be the most accurate since it's a fixed barrel....I don't own one so I really don't know. But alot of members here swear by that gun....as someone mentioned before...it's abit more time consuming to load.
I have a Viper, Whisper and like you a Big Cat also. Of these three I would rate the Viper as the most accurate....although a bit "twangy" sounding due to the hollow stock...some owners stuff insulation into the stock to quiet it down.
I'm not a good shooter and yesterday I brought my Viper outside for the first time....I put 16 out of 20 shots into a 2 1/2" X 4" cardboard at 40 meters. My hold is not steady....although I was kneeling and one elbow was on one knee....and the dot in the scope was weaving all over the place and I still managed to hit the mark.
The Whisper is very accurate also (Although I haven't shot it past 20 meters) and quiet....
The Big Cat is the lightest...maybe that's why there tends to be abit of barrel movement...but I can live with that....haven't shot it past 30 meters. At that distance...my groups were about 2" shooting freehand...my fault and I need to experiment with different pellets.
Hope this helps you narrow down your choice.....or like someone said, buy all three!!!
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Bob,
Sure glad you said something about the cleaning pellets, never tried them, dont reckon I will. Have to stick to the old way huh? Thanx, Bob. Oh, still lovin that trigger!!!!!!!!
Kent
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Hi
Im so glad I was reading this thread, I am in the same position I have a threat called the best gamo rifle for hunting, should I say misscalled. Actually Im looking for any type of good accurate power rifle but thought firts of Gamo rifles because of their price and quality. Now I believe that you been an experience shooter and also somebody that has been modifying customizing or tunnig air rifles you will be the best person to ask a few questions about what rifle and in what caliber should I get.
I have already made lots of research read every rifle comments even asked the airgun reporter from pyramidair. and now My rifle decition has narrowed a lot but still caliber is an issue as well as wich gun to pick as I am going to use it primarily for hunting. I want a RIfle with accuracy! great accuracy, and od course some power for range!
I have a few quetions Between the whisper and the CFX both turbo tuned wich turns out best?
If Im picking a .22 cal for hunting I need one that can deliver a killer impact at 50 meters wich .22 rifle can do this?..
What do you think about the Benjamin sherinda Super Streak? Ive been told is not very accurate, others say its a great rifle. what are your comments towards this gun?
Would it be better a whisper or CFX turbo tuned or a more expensive RWS as a 460 or 48 stock? (because Im only willing to spend around 450 bucks top)
What other rifle would you recomend me? Im desperate I cant wait to have one!
I have some experience shooting real firearms and I had a crossman 2100 5 years ago but now I want a good air rifle.
thaks!
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Pedro:
In the RWS line have you considered the RWS 46E? It is in your price range and tends to be more accurate than some rifles because it has a fixed barrel cocked with an under-lever. The cocking lever being located under the barrel adds a stabilizing weight out front which tends to make it less heartbeat sensitive which is good for off-hand shooting and hunting.
The RWS 46E also has a pop-up loading port which pops up for pellet loading when the rifle is cocked. You get the long term accuracy of a fixed barrel plus the convenience of a break-barrel.
One of the major airgun retailers has it on sale for approximately $350 (US). Sorry, I can't remember the name of the retailer, but when I do, I am going to order one for myself.
Mike
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I am new to this forum so I hope I am not stepping on any toes by jumping in with a reply, but there are several variables to your question. The longest kill part throws a whole different slant on how is should be answered. First, from a physics perspective, the longer actual barrell (not counting the pseudo brakes on some models), the higher the velocity which contributes somewhat to kills at longer ranges. Also a fixed barrell, (as on the CFX) should be a little more accurate in the long run, although I doubt that most shooters would ever see the difference. More important, is the choice of pellet, quality and power of the scope, and technique/skill of the shooter. As a former competition shooter, it is my experience that a heavier rifle is preferable over a really light rifle. I read that a quality tuneup by a good air gunsmith will make all this easier. If you want to hunt and kill at longer ranges, I say get a .22 over a .177 then add a quality sighting system, and practice/experiment until you can consistently put every shot where you want it at the range you will be experiencing in the field.
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Thanks for all the help fellas. I have decided to get the Gamo Whisper in .22 and then get a super tune. If you guys get the chance check out youtube. Just put in "Gamo Whisper" theres some guy shooting targets accurately at 100 yards.
Again, I really appreciate the help.
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Gil, they do not sell the Whisper .22 here in the states. I don't even know if they make them. I sent Gamo an email asking them if they ever would and they just tried to sell me one in .177 which I already own. The videos you see on youtube are from a member on this forum I think his name is Snakeater98 or something close to that. If you find the Whisper in .22 please let me know. :emoticon:
Dan L
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Alright ill start looking for it and maybe talk to that snakeeater guy, im sure he could shed some light on this.
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Gamo Shadow 1000, prairie dog head-shot (second shot), 60 paces...50ish' yards...BSA Wolverines 8.4 gr...Scoped with BSA 3-12x40, accushot mounts...
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Not really sure, some thought they might get stuck in the end of the dampener, but it does not, it did get some black junk off, which then I did a thorough cleaning, it also sounded like a gun going off when I shoot them, probably not good for the spring.....
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Gamo's webstite under new products http://www.gamousa.com//Catalog.aspx?Action=Advertise
shows the upcoming Whisper in .22 and also synthetic thumbhole stock http://www.gamousa.com//Catalog.aspx?Family=71
"This New Model will change the way you think about hunting with airguns! Offering 940fps with PBA or 750fps with standard lead, your sure to be ready for the elements. The non-removable noise dampener reduce the noise up to 52%!"
Whisper 22
Item# 61100495554
"COMING SOON"
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SGTMEATSAUCE,
Yeah, thats what Bob was saying that he wouldnt recomend them, because they are like dry firing one, and you can break a spring and blow seals out. I figure I will just stick to doing the cleaning the old fashion way. Thanx for the reply tho, and happy shooting!!!!
Kent
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Nice find Joe. They told me not 2 months ago they weren't planning on making them. Something must have been going on. If I buy one it is heading straight to Bob. :p
Dan L