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PCP - HPA - C02 Gate => PCP DarkSiders Forum => : Gene_SC May 05, 2008, 12:07:07 PM
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The brown santa delivered me another Air Arms Sweety today...:) It was late and took it out to the shop and opened the box and WOW!.. This one has more of a staight walnut grain with allot of definition. Not allot of swirls as straight grain. To my suprise, it felt as light as my AA 410 .177 Carbine, but had a larger barrel shroud. I just grabbed a white clean towel and quickly whiped her down and took some pics. Tonight I will clean her up and mount a new scope. I see in the pictures that she is still kinda smuggy with oil but I will have some better pics once I mount the scope and is all cleaned up. Guess you know what I will be doing all day tomorrow..:) Gonna need to get my tank filled after that..:)
Gene
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I think you'd better box that filthy rifle up and ship it to me straight away Gene, so I can get properly cleaned up for you. We can't have you soiling your delicate hands with menial cleaning chores. :)
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Well Steph, I know you would love shooting her..:) It does amaze me how light they are. Even with a 22oz scope they are less than 8lbs.
Gene
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Now you're talking . That's a sweet looking shooter for sure Gene. I like th strait grainers . They have a Classic Walnut look to them . I hope you're stocked up on .22 cal. pellets. Which scope did you decide to put on her ? kirby
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That is a good looking rifle and the grain sure does enhance the lines of it. Best of luck with it .Marvin
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That is a beauty for sure Gene,,,, congrats.... If you wanna package her up and send her to NY I'll break her in nice and easy for ya :) ,,,,, should only take me about 3 or 4 months :)
Jeff
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I like the shot from behind. I am kind of a butt guy though. She sure is pretty. I bet you will be stacking pellets from 60 yards with that gem.
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How's that new Classic shooting for you? I know you've been busy stuffing pellets down it all morning. hehe. kirby
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Congrats on another fine shooter, Gene. So when are you heading South, or am I gonna have to head North, so I can test her out,hehe.
Mike
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:), Well yo almost got it right..:) Had to finish up on a couple muzzle brakes first. I only had a 2 hour window cause I have to leave for Columbia this afternoo. I just come in from shooting her and I am as pleased as toast..:) Only a hundred or so pelletswent through her but I got the feel of the power cycle. She sure can push out the lead on high power..:) I also took some pic's of her all cleaned up with a Simmons White Tail scope. Also I moded the BKL Cantalever mount inorder for it to fit over the rotary clip. Here are couple pics but have a bunch more I am gonna put on another post..:)
Gene
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LOL Jeff, I am sorry but you will have to take a number...:) You need to come on down south here and for this summer's fun shoot.. You were close last year but momma won out on your time..:) Ask her if you can just have one day with the guys.. hehe And you can shoot everything I own.. :)
Gene
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Wow that's another beauty you have there Gene, these AA walnut stocks really make me wish I had one : )
BTW how's the cocking force on the side lever compared to the bolt action, is it much easier? I think I'd probably like the side lever more but I'm happy with my bolt action for now. I understand AA uses a ball bearing bushing to make the lever action smooth.
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Hey Gene, I think in between tuning, turning brakes and shooting your new baby you aughta take some time to finish that fence!
LOL Couldn't help it
Chris
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Alright Gene!!!!
I bet you are loving yours to pieces right now. I know I'm loving my 410ERBSL.
Out of all the guns I've had the 410 is the one I think I've settled on, accuracy and beauty all in one package.
It's the one gun that has all the options, mulit-shot, very quiet shroud, sidelever, adjustable power, air guage, and a pretty sweet adjustable trigger. I cant think of one PCP that has all the same options in one package like this.
IMO it's the only rifle worth it's asking price.
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Thanks Jon, Is your barrel longer than mine? I know that the shroud on this Classic S-410 .22 Fac is about 3 inches longer than the barrel. I stuck my nose down there today..:) Also the end of shroud unscrews and I guess it is for removal of shroud.. For sure Jon these Air Arms PCP's are very very sweet shooters. Will make a blind man see again.. hehe
Gene
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Exactly right Chris...:) Actually part of that fencing is to finish up in the back and the other is for the front yard..:) I am almost done with the first stage of my back deck..:) I thought I moved to S.C. to retire and relax..:)
Gene
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Well I certainly do love the side lever over the cocking lever. I bought a FX Cyclone two years ago with a side lever. It also cocks very smoothly. I plan on making a different style cocking lever for my S-410 Carbine when I get the time. I think my design will make it much easier to cock and will not wear the shaft nearly as much as the cocking lever would. I have been lucky to have purchase these two Air Arms PCP's with such nice stock. Really it is a gamble if you get a good one or so, so one..:)
Gene
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I've been told the classic and the ER hae the same length barrels and performance. My shroud is longer and so is the airtube. I would guess that I would get a few more shots per fill and have a slightly more quiet gun than the classic. But mine is probably a full pound heavier than the classic.
Thats what makes them so nice, they went to the trouble of making 3 differentsized guns to fit the needs of whoever bought them. I think the 410 TDR would be a cool gun to have as well.
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Jon, do you have the bolt action or the side lever. I have a bolt action 410 ERB and even pulling the bolt the correct way per AA instructions, it's pretty stiff. Not a problem, more just a nuisance if I want to keep gun motion down during cocking. My gun with scope weights a hair over 9 lbs. and when I let the weight of the gun pull on the bolt handle, the gun pulls down less than 1/4 inch. I'll have to see if I can rig up something to measure the force needed to pull the handle all the way back.
I saw the YouTube video of the guy with the magazine conversion on his 400 and he seems to only need to flick the bolt handle with a couple of fingers to cock his gun. I don't think even with really strong hands a person can pull the bolt handle on my 410 with so little effort.
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I has a 410 fac Classic in .22 and the bolt was (to me) difficult to cock. I've since sold it and now have the 400 series single shot 12fpe rifles which are a lot easier to cock. I've thought about getting one of the Rowan 10 shot adapters for one of mine. These are manually indexed so the cocking force will stay the same. sweet rifles, all of them . Not to give the impression that the bolt action 410's are impossible to cock, they're not terrible, just a little more effort is required . I sold my 410 because I was getting back into springers and the .22 was tearing up my targets , I could have lived with the extra effort to cock it. I do miss it , and would someday like to get another. kirby
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I saw the Rowan setup. That's the video I saw on YouTube. It seemed a little pricy, over a $110 plus shipping IIC when I looked last month. That's when I figured I'd rather put the money into a 410. Though if I already had a 400 that I liked, I'd just might go with the Rowan setup to update it.
Here's the Rowan video for anyone interested, the vendor is in the UK: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dI0LagT39sI
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My 410 is a sidelever like Gene's. They are very easy to cock compared to the older bolt and the other nice thing about them is that the side lever doesnt move once cocked so you dont get into a partially closed bolt situation.
I've owned 2 bolt style guns but in single shot confirguration and even without the magazine I found them to be hard to cock compared to other brand bolt sirguns I've had. Here's mine:
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a131/jon164/410.jpg