General Discussion To Gateway To Airguns => Hunting Gate => : Timmyj1959@yahoo.com June 02, 2008, 11:59:18 AM
: Others Are Watching!!
: Timmyj1959@yahoo.comJune 02, 2008, 11:59:18 AM
Hey Folks,, I am no sissy,, 2 years in Crime scene I have seen it all. Blood Guts & Gore dont affect me. (Too Much). Im a cold blooded airgun hunter,, always will be. I have done stuff with airguns most will most likely not ever attempt. (Many finish up aspects I dare not post) However,, Many, young, old, & PETA types, visit here Im shure. If it was just "Us" it would be differant,, Im just saying, , 'Others are watching". Also, I guess Im just getting older& softer, I have even bathed & blow dried a Rabbit to post pics here. Make no mistake,, the TV hunting shows we all watch are VERY carefull in the way they show RESPECT for the game animals they "Harvest". Im Just Saying,, The PETA Jerks are watching us,, Lets not give them any fuell to strip us of our rights to Hunt Responsably. Again,, Im good with any & All Hunting posts,, (Love the pics.),, Just remember,, The "Anti Jerks" are watching. Tim. P.S. Im *_*_*_*_*_*ed I dont have any new Pics. of recent kills!!!!!!
That's always going to happen no matter what we do. It's another fine example of people trying to force their way of life on the rest of the world. O well Just keep on trucking.
Those "Jerks" have ALOT of money Jason, We need to watch them. Same old, same old may become,, What the he$$ happened????? I remember back in the "Good Ole Days" I could Hunt with my guns,,, Just sayin,, Dont become too complacent,, Lest we lose all our rights. Just A sayin,,Jason,,,, Tim.
Jason,, (Left Coast),, Just re read my post,, Man I get carried away sometimes! PLEASE take no offense,, I just dont get into politics,, but gun rights get me all "Stirred up".!! Thanks Buddy for your responce to my post. Tim.
Hey Craig,, now thats what Im talkin about,, Just look at how cute they look all hugging up on each other,, now thats a "Nutter" Orgy for shure!! Obviously they are VERY fond of each other!! Now thats a "hugs & Kisses" bunch of tree rats that is deserving of a Greeting Card front page?? Very tastfully "staged" pic Craig,, Tim.
Tim, what brought this on? The knife in the Australian possom's shoulder? That's how they take care of business in New Zealand..
You should have seen the last pics Damage posted.. he slit the throat of a young deer with a knife to finish it off after he shot it in the head with his pellet gun. They do things the old fashion way over there sometimes.
I know the people you are talkign about. They hang out on youtube a lot and post negative comments on half the hunting videos, even the night-vision rat hunting videos. I would like to see how they 'd think if those rats where in their back yard.
Nah no offence taken buddy. I get edgey when people want to take away my rights as well. I try to stay away from disussing politics because it causes so much greif. I understand where you are coming from I just hope it never happens in any life time.
: Well, by golly then, let'm watch this ! !
: 3n00nJune 02, 2008, 02:00:16 PM
Hey Harry,, I cant believe I posted soft hearted like that. As you know,, I myself last season had to "finish off" a Deer I shot with my 54. Yeppers, a lights out "drop" on that doe!! The "finish off" aspect was not what I feel too good about. Will I do it again?? No,, Im getting a big bore airgun that I know will "Get Er Done"!! Harry, & others,, the knife in the possum dont bother me in the LEAST bit,, just wondering what the "Peta" A- ho$es will do to use it against us???? Thats all Im trying to say. Im a HUNTER,, Dont want to lose my rights because of propoganda the peta JERKS can use against us. Tomorow I will be here working on airgun projects for the get together at Genes,, I shure hope a squirel gets careless while Im outside,,to save face,, Im a gonna show Ya what an HP, does to a tree rat on a K-5 lower rear body shot!!LOL!! (Chopper will be by my side all day) Soft?? I think not!! Tim.
Hey Jay,, see Ya no later than Thurs.,,Ya got anything we can kill?? You know where In comin from with this post Buddy,, Now I dont mean kill me on BIG dirtbike jumps!LOL!! I guess what Im trying to say is,,, New World Order Peta Against All Hunting. Im gonna sleep on a funny abreiviation to that effect!! NICE BB gun hunt Jay,,, Tim.
I suppose we could film how a rat dies slowly from ratsack or a rat trap (sometimes a lot of blood too and not always a clean kill either) and compare it to the clean kill of a well placed pellet. But really we have to put it into perspective, only the other day I saw on a documentary how a group of lions took down a buffalo. It took over 20 minutes to kill and some of them began to eat it before it was dead, It was crying in pain and there was a lot of blood too. This was on at seven thirty at night and I am sure some of our critics would have been watching it at that time . So - are we going to ban lions too?
: Sooner ya get here . . .
: 3n00nJune 02, 2008, 02:39:20 PM
. . .sooner we get a l'il ol' bbgunsetup for you (http://../jscripts/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/smiley-cool.gif)
Hey Jay,, A few traps to build,,A stock to finish& ship,, A "backyard" Quest Tune, a Scooter to load (Need my sons help)& Im ready to hit the road!! See Ya REAL soon Buddy,, Tim. (Im thinkin Im heading out Wen.) Ya Gonna be home?? Tim. (Im hitting Lowes tommorow sometime??) Give me a ring. Hey PETA,, kiss my Hiney!! See how darn nice I am?? Man I hope a squirrel gets "Careless" tommorow,, "Hey Look at This"!!LOL! Tim.
: You can gimmee a call about anytime . . .
: 3n00nJune 02, 2008, 03:43:26 PM
I don't have any plans that I know of, at leastuntil earlySaturday morning(http://../jscripts/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/smiley-cool.gif)
: Here's one for PETA!!!
: BhawannaJune 03, 2008, 02:44:26 AM
Killer whales invade lake murray s.c............see pic below.
: RE: Others Are Watching!!
: johncedarhillJune 03, 2008, 03:35:23 AM
I find that pic very amusing. I wonder what Freud would say about me.
Everything that I've hunted has been taken in a legal manner and I cherish Ma Nature, it's a give and take thing to me. As for those folk's, we all have our oppinions and view's and will alway's be watching. Please read the NOTICE !at the Hunting Gate Forum, it's their choice to enter and we alway's want our fellow HUNTER'S to post legal kill's . When I've roughed it out in the stick's for a week or so with my babies and eating my harvest over a open fire I wonder how long it would take one of those folk's to break down and dig in on some harvest, ethic's jump out the window when hunger rules., welcome to the jungle.. We as GTA hunter's will alway's conduct ourselves wth the knowledge that we don't hunt for the thrill, we hunt to provide,protect even a veggie garden etc and we hunt to eat and we do it with respect to the one who provides, Ma Nature. Ed
: Re: Others Are Watching!!
: SirNomadJune 12, 2008, 05:39:54 AM
I personally think that if you're taking out destructive pests or hunting food I can't see why anyone would have a problem with it. However, what I can't get is why people would randomly shoot birds or other critters that aren't doing any damage and aren't introduced exotics. Killing things just to kill them is wasteful and makes all the legitimate hunters look bad. And getting off on the suffering of another creature is mental illness.
I don't have real issues with hunting done responsibly. I don't know if many of you have seen the conditions on factory-farms, but it's really horrible and damaging all around (a lot of "super bugs" start out because the animals are continually dosed with anti-biotics, plus the concentration of animals in one place is very environmentally harmful). All of this makes hunting a MUCH more reasonable way of putting food on the table in my own humble opinion. Do you want critters that have been raised in overcrowded, disease ridden conditions and dosed with who-knows-what? Or would you prefer to have an animal that's had an active life and raised "organic" by Mother Nature herself as dinner? I personally think that factory farms are an abomination (seriously, have any of y'all been to one of these?) and a health hazard. I'd rather eat cloned meat than anything that came from a factory farm!
And hey, not everyone who believes in treating animals humanely is a "nut". I support the Humane Society and ASPCA. I also have this thing called "common sense". The thing is that there's a place where common sense ends when you're talking about humane treatment for animals. As an example of what is not common sense to me, PETA wants people to give up all house pets and domesticated animals, (WTF?). A world without the dogs, cats, and other domesticated animals most of us grew up with would be a sterile and miserable place. You can be humane when hunting, or you can be a vicious dweeb. The best way to keep hunting legal is to do it in a responsible and (as much as possible) humane way. Use sense, don't just blow away birds "cuz I can" when they're not a pest or food, and be an adult about this hobby, and the grief that the more extreme animal rights groups can give the airgun community as a whole will be a lot less. Do folks on here REALLY think that everyone that's against animal abuse is a nut? That's as wrong as people who say that everyone that owns an airgun is a sadist who'll shoot any defenseless critter they can find. We all know that both of those statements are not only untrue, but asinine.
I know that some of us live in places where airguns are restricted, or even outright banned. I think that a BIG part of that is a perception some people hold that airgun users are irresponsible kids who shoot stray cats and song birds for sadistic pleasure, and vandalize property. I also don't think that description would fit most of the airgun community. But because we know that people can get that impression, it makes sense to make a good impression in the pursuit of our hobby. As airgun owners we are GREATLY outnumbered by those who don't share our hobby and appearances DO count.
On a different subject, what's a grackle and why do people shoot 'em? I know that European starlings are an introduced pest we're supposed to nail, and that crows can cause a lot of other damage, etc., I just don't know what a grackle is. (Not trying to hassle anyone for shooting pest birds)
: Re: Others Are Watching!!
: PeakChickJune 12, 2008, 06:47:23 AM
Here's a link to a bit of info on the Common Grackle:
The Grackle is a native species, and migratory. They exhibit behavoir very much like the European Starling, and can be aggressive to other beneficial species. I have observed this behavoir many times in my yard and the surrounding area. They harrass my Robins and are very loud, boisterous and agressive. They do often congregate in large flocks and I have had as many as 30-40 of them in my yard at one time in the summer. I do not just indiscrminately shoot them because I can, but because they do present as a pest. They are also a prime vector for diease.
All to the other fauna in my yard are safe from me, I even have a mutual understanding with the rabbits and squirrels in my yard. They don't destroy any of my property and I leave them alone to do their thing, unhindered. I agree that indiscriminate shooting is poor behavoir and do not encourage it.
: Re: Others Are Watching!!
: SirNomadJune 12, 2008, 06:58:01 AM
Wow those are some truly obnoxious critters! I see that they eat other bird species eggs and nestlings and will even kill sparrows! They definitely seem to be pretty horrible pests. Seems to me to be a pretty good reason to get rid of them if for no other reason than to protect the beneficial birds on your property. And I figure a dozen "nicer" birds eating unwanted bugs and such is better than a grackle or two being obnoxious and fouling things.
: Re: Others Are Watching!!
: PeakChickJune 12, 2008, 07:01:09 AM
I hear what you're saying. I only shoot paper or tin cans....and other small objects. I shot a few pest birds over the week.....grackles and starlings. I let this little guy and his/her mom (I assume....a fatter bigger one)....go about their business....they've done no harm to my property. And I had alot of opportunities to have "taken" them......but I only shot him with a camera.