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I was wondering the opinion of GTA members on using smaller faster pellets or slower heavier pellets.
If I am trying to kill birds that are pecking holes in my green tomatoes in my garden about 10 to 15 yards away......
Without a puff of feathers in my yard and a bird that flys over the wall and then dies in my neighbors back yard. Using the Gamo CFX with lead pellets, is a lighter or heaver pellet better?
Since im in city limits I cant have the stinking tomato stealing corpses :p :p landing in the neighbors yard......
Any suggestions????
Aside from the obvious??? (Shoot them in the head)
Im not that good yet :0 :0
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I would suggest the use of Hollowpoint pellets and head or neck/highbody shots..Try to avoid hitting the wings as their tough..My CFX likes Beeman Crowmags@ 8.8gr , Crosman Destroyers @7.9 , Crosman hollowpoints @7.9 and JSB Predator pellets....At the distances your shooting you will almost certainly get "pass through" so A hollow point is recomnded ..
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You'll want to stay with mid weight pellets, 7-9gr. Anything lighter, or heavier will cause damage to the spring. If your CFX will shoot them, give the Destroyers or Predators a try, they'll get the job done. Another, less fun, thing to try is put a few rubber snakes, in the garden, the birds will stay out of there.
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Try using wadcutters instead of the usual domed or pointed pellets. The flat nose of the wad cutter will transfer more energy at that range. Also they'd probably be just as accurate as what you're using now.
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Get some JSB S100 Match Diabolos, at 20 yards or less, my old CFX would put them in one ragged hole until I got tired of using the same hole :-)! Very accurate, and the wadcutter design is devastating on birds. Good luck!
Dave
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I agree with my fellow GTA brethren, wad-cutters and hollow-points are an ideal choice for avian extermination,....but, at the range you're speaking of, a powerful weapon such as a cfx might be a little 'over kill'. I've shot grackles/starlings at 20/25 yards with a sub 500 fps springer out my kitchen window using Beeman Silver Bears. Great little pellet, light (7.1 grains), consistant, and above all ACCURATE!!! For your particular application,...tomato protection,... I'd invest in a Benjamin 397. At 10 to 15 yards, 5 to 6 pumps is plenty sufficiant and will get desirable results!!! Upper torso shots are the best for quick kills with less fly-off's. If the birds in question are native 'song-birds', purchase a squirrel proof bird feeder, and a bird bath for water. Lack of water is probably why they are attacking your tomatoes. Water is the most essencial substance to any creature on earth, be it man or beast. Hope my advice assists you, and may your tomatoes be plentiful!!!! tjk
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Wadcutters.
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Thanks for the input everyone I am knocking em down with the match from crossman...
This is a great site.
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this is a question for peakchick: I have a game big cat and I use the same ammo as you do, the JSB diablo exacts, and I was wondering, what would be a good wadcutter that wouldn't change the poi too much...I know if I use beeman silver stings, the poi moves like 2-3 inches to the right...I don't want to zero my scope everytime I switch pellets...
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That's going to be very rifle dependent, but I would try wadcutters that are as close to the same weight as the JSBs as possible. You might try RWS R10 Heavies, 8.1 gr. They are not very pricey if bought in the bulk 500 ct. tin and are very accurate in a lot of my rifles.
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You might also try the JSB S100's I mentioned above. They're 8.26 gr. as I recall, and shot to almost the same POA as the Exacts. Good luck.
Dave
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Bean, don't bother with those silver stings. You'll be messing with your scope all day. I bought a tin and I think they are the most inconsistent pellet I've tried. They look cool, but do not perform. I wrote a review on PA site, they never posted. Can't go wrong with the RWS or JBS.
Joe
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I pretty much only use JSBs, but the silver stings were the tin I got with the rifle. They worked alright, I mean, I hit what I aimed for with them...just now that my scope is sighted for the JSBs, if I use the remainder of the silver stings, they hid wide right.
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Yo Beano, since Ive gotten into the AR sport, i can't figure out why pellet manufacturers don't package pellets in bulk,...say 2 or 4k boxes padded with plenty of protective foam padding, but that's just my thoughts on pellets. For me, I've had good results with regular old crosman premier HP's from wal-mart. when you find a good consistant pellet for your gun/set up, stick withit and don't get fancy using a variety of different pellets. It'll only keep you re-zeroing you scope!! Peakchick is on the mark when saying that every gun shoots pellets differently,...find that pellet and stick with it. My old Marksman shoots best and fastest with Beeman SB's so that's all I use with it. Your BC may prefer cromags, but when you find that 'magic pellet" ( the secret formula!!!!) stick with it and don't stray away to other types. Just my honest opinion. Best Wishes, tjk
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tjk - 7/16/2008 9:30 PM Yo Beano, since Ive gotten into the AR sport, i can't figure out why pellet manufacturers don't package pellets in bulk,...say 2 or 4k boxes padded with plenty of protective foam padding, but that's just my thoughts on pellets.
Called sleeves. Usually 10 tins, although Crosman boxes themby fours. . . (http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u64/3n00n/shelf.jpg)
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Usually like to havea few . . .
tjk - 7/16/2008 9:30 PM For me, I've had good results with regular old crosman premier HP's from wal-mart. when you find a good consistant pellet for your gun/set up, stick withit and don't get fancy using a variety of different pellets. It'll only keep you re-zeroing you scope!! Peakchick is on the mark when saying that every gun shoots pellets differently,...find that pellet and stick with it. My old Marksman shoots best and fastest with Beeman SB's so that's all I use with it. Your BC may prefer cromags, but when you find that 'magic pellet" ( the secret formula!!!!) stick with it and don't stray away to other types. Just my honest opinion. Best Wishes, tjk
A wadcutter at short range is excellant. The consensus is correct. Find the most accurate one for the rig you're using, and buy a few pelletsto spare . . . (http://../images/emoticons/wink.gif)
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j!!!!! It looks like an ammo dump!!!!!! I love it!!!!!!!
Joe
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Dammit Man!!!! What'd do, rob a pellet warehouse?!?!?!?!?! LOL's T
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Get a few sleeves shipped a few times a year and usually pick up a few sleeves at shows, so there are a few pellets here, there, out in that room, over on that shelf, up in that box~ oh yeah~ and out therein the shop, too. . . (http://../jscripts/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/smiley-surprised.gif)
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Well in that case, got a spare sleeve or two of B silver bears?!??!??! My polished turd farts them out like nothing else. LOL's tjk
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j, GUARANTEED there are about 2,000 pellets somewhere in the house you've forgotten about dude!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I'm pretty sure he forgot the boxes of pellets sitting on the bar behind me.
Hmmm & I'm pretty sure there are pellets in the front bedroom with all the other parts.
:emoticon: :o
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Since there are at theleast 30,000 pellets on the bar. {4 sleeves of .177 Crosman Premier,2 sleeves of Daisy Match wadcutters, plus severalassorted tins of weighed FT pellets, and a couple sleeves ofbig bore slugs. . .}(http://../jscripts/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/smiley-undecided.gif)
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Ya should'a know'd they's more'n 2k pellets on'natstretch'a space. . . (http://../images/emoticons/surprise.gif)
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I also have a CFX and mine seems to like RWS Meisterkuglens. From experience, I have learned the hard way that frontal breast shots are low percentage shots and shots from the back or quartering away are the high percentage shots if you don't want them landing in the neighbors yard. Head shots are always good if you don't miss. Any 7 - 8 grain lead pellet that shoots accurately in your rifle should be OK. I use match pellets and they work fine.
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j, Dude!!!! Listen to the Sweet crazy lady!! I was referring to the pellets in the house that you have forgotten about!!!!! GUARANTEED there are pellets in that house that have benn out of production for ten years!!!!!! LOL!!!
Joe
PS. It looks more like 40,000 bro!!!!! But I bet you're still buying new ones all the time!!!!
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I have to be carefulto not finish up sleeves beforereorder. Sleeves usually only last a few months, especially when three or four shooters are here at a time.
Probably have 10 or 12 empty CP sleeves sitting in the shop right now. (http://../jscripts/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/smiley-undecided.gif)
Afewplinkers herelike Hobbies, so I need to reorder ~ only thing isthatit should really be by the case at this point. (http://../jscripts/tiny_mce/plugins/emotions/images/smiley-money-mouth.gif)I'll have to think about it . . . probably not for long though ~ or I'll run out.
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Case???? At this point I think you should consider truck loads bro!!! We'll end up buying pellets from you soon j, you're cornering the market!!!!
Joe