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General Discussion To Gateway To Airguns => Airgun Gate => : DanoInTx October 13, 2006, 06:57:49 AM
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Ok guys, here's the match as I see it:
go here and download/print your targets:
http://10xshooters.com/BlackDeathChallenge/
we’ll use the target on the far left of that page, the “main Targetâ€.
5 shots total, with a possible score of 50.
The distances will be:
10 yard pistol open sights/red dot 1X zero mag
20 yard long gun open sights/red dot 1X zero mag
40 yard long gun or pistol with scope
so three different matches.
Pistol definition: 14" or less barrel, not including muzzle brake. No buttstock, just grips, or a two hand pistol stock that DOES not have anything to rest against the shoulder. Open sights OR a 1X zero mag red dot.
The allowed shooting stances would be pretty much anything WITHOUT using a rest, vise, bags, picnic table, kids shoulder, or playground equipment. So offhand, sitting, prone, crouching, coughing, sneezing, sleeping, whatever, etc…..
NO RESTS, everyone got that? Yes, you CAN sit with the pistol and rest it in the crook of your opposite arm, but I would consider shooting a rifle while leaning up tight against a tree a little unfair:)
My plan, if it's ok with Gene is to run a match like this weekly. Then post our results to one thread somewhere here on the forum. Maybe I could just put up a thread every saturday morning and call it "match summary 10-14-06 thru 10-20-06", and everyone could just snap pics and post their results. At the end of the week, we declare a winner, he/she gloats and we all tell him/her what a great shot they are.
Who knows, if it all goes down good we could even get some prizes together, like a "6 Month high scorer" deal? I have many pairs of old smelly tennis shoes I'd be willing to donate, ....but only to a good cause:)
Dan
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sounds good to me, count me in.
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Sounds good. There is no match with out a little wagering.
I will hold all the money for you.
Come on you can trust me. Would I lie?
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Dan,
Sounds like fun..... I will use my 1377c, if its close enough.....
Rabbit
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I'm up for it, but I think I'll use my CFX instead of the 350 :-). Course, open sights could be a problem, I took mine off the CFX and gave them to Vince!
Dave
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Wooooooooooop Peeeeeeeeeeeeeee ..... :)
I am up to it. I will use my CFX .177 also. I think it is the only .177 I have with original iron sites on it..:) May have to add another piece of plywood to my target though. At 10 yards it tends to blow through the 5/8" plywood...:) or was that my Samatra... he he he
Let us know when we can start Dave..
Thanks
Gene
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nt
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I'm in! I love shooting with open sights. Here's just a couple of questions for this newbie:
Standing position (offhand)?
Point me in the direction of these Black Death targets.
thanks,
bob
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Here's a link to the Black Death Targets, everyone. http://10xshooters.com/BlackDeathChallenge/ . Sounds like fun, but which target do we use? Dano, since you came up with this, how about picking out a target and time frame for round 1? And firm up the basic parameters of range, hold, sights, etc. Looking forward to this, folks.
Dave
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hehe, I step away from my computer for a couple days and there's a bunch of posts for this. I have family in town, and more on the way this afternoon, but as soon as I get time tonight I'll try to come up with some real rules. My original thought was pistols at 10 yards, with open sights, we can pick, or I can make up a 20 bull target sheet, 20 shots, most bulls hits wins. No rests, but any shooting stance you want, including sitting indian style, or laying on the ground....but I repete, no rests or scopes. As far as long rifles, maybe we should make the distance a bit further(20 yards?), for a separate competition? I dunno guys, I've never even been to a real shooting match, so any suggestions or rules you guys have would be great.
Dan
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I think I'm in trouble already! I don't have a pistol (yet!), and at the moment, neither of my rifles has iron sights. Gave the CFX sights away, and the 350 rear sight was damaged when I got my rifle. New one should be on its way from RWS. So what do I do in the meantime? Maybe extra range if using a scope? Either way, guess it's time I started practicing without my rifle rest. I was right, I AM in trouble!
Dave
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Dano, does a cane disqualify me?...:) I would have to use it to stand up and it is kind of a rest in its own way.. he he
And Dave thought he was in trouble......:)
Gene
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No one has to stand up, I said nothing about standing up, I even mentioned indian style sitting. Gene, can we sticky this somehow, so it stays where people can make suggestions till we have a list of solid rules? I'll start ok:)
1) 10yards, open sights(/red dots?) pistol...ANY WAY you want to shoot(sitting, standing, squatting, laying prone), but NO BAGS!
2) 20yards, open sights, rifle...ANY WAY you want to shoot, but no bags.
3) 40 yards, any scope or whatever helps you, ANY WAY you want to shoot, but NO bags.
I'll either find some printable targets with 20 bulls, or make them for us to use. Most bulls in 20 shots wins. What do we win??? Uhm, bragging rights I suppose, unless someone has something to offer up...don't think that's needed though, bragging rights is cool:)
Anyone else?
Dan
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I'm thinking why re-invent the wheel:
This target and scoring procedure: http://10xshooters.com/BlackDeathChallenge/BlackDeath_Challenge.pdf
Open sights, no bench or bags.
10yds pistol
20yds rifle
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Yup, I agree...look at my first post above:)
Dan
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It all sounds good to me, as long as everyone is in agreement who will play..:)
I guess my wheel chair is out and thank God you let us use scopes at 40 yards... lol. I could not do that one with open sites and even see the target.. :)
Ok, Great job Dano, So the dates are set now. And I assume that the ones without rifles can still play and the same for hand guns?
Thanks Dano
Gene
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Sounds great, SO WHEN DO WE START????? Okay, so someone always has to throw the monkey wrench in the works, I'll be the monkey for this round. Are multiple entries allowed per week with the same gun, or only if you have multiple guns? Or do we just shoot lots and lots of targets, then post the best? And who's going to referee ties? I volunteer, my price is very reasonable, and I'm easily bought! In other words, I'm easy AND cheap :-0! My work is done here, later all!
Dave
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haha, sorry, had to go with that.
1 - 3 different guns, one per match....so one rifle, one poistol, one rifle with a scope...yes, you can use the same rifle twice, but you have to take the scope off.
You can enter 1, 2, or ALL 3 matches, like for me, unfortunately I have a total of 13 yards in my yard, so I'll only be into the pistol event...ok, maybe I'll get out sometime and shoot at someone elses place too:)
You can shoot from a chair, wheelchair, lawn tractor, combine, moving Chevy Impala(with or with out it bouncing), anything you want BUT....NO RESTING THE GUN ON ANYTHING!!!! And that includes cows!!!
Ok?
I think we should start this, uhm, like right now....I'll post below along with the final rules.
Oh yea, and Gene, don't get your grandkids to shoot for you, we will all know if you score a perfect 50 at 20 yards with open sights because you can't see that far:) Hehe....jk.
Dan
Dan
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Yay im in. use my shadow for the 40 yarder, and my rws c-225 for the 10 yard pistol :) finally get to use that thing after owneing it for years.
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I'm only interested in competition which can be monitored; where 20 yards are 20 yards and not ~17 or less…. So, I'm out, but if you like, you may use my personal targets. http://www.visualexpression.com/Targets.pdf
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well Raterminator, I hate to see anyone bow out, I think this will be fun. This isn't for trophies or anything, so if someone wants to shoot at a target from 2 feet and win, that's their own perogitive. Karma catches up with everyone:)
Dan
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Sounds good, be sure to post your results in the above announcement!
Dan