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GTA Regional Shooting Events => FortWorth Texas Shooting Events Discussion => : DanoInTx December 23, 2008, 05:32:19 AM

: Planning thread for NTAGM Spring Shootout
: DanoInTx December 23, 2008, 05:32:19 AM
Just starting a fresh thread so we can start discussing plans and ideas for what should be the best NTAGM shootout EVER!  Right now we are looking at April 19th and 20th of 2009.  Please add your hopes, dreams, ideas for the shootout in this thread and I'll try to gather them up to start organizing.

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: Re: Planning thread for NTAGM Spring Shootout
: Gene_SC December 23, 2008, 05:40:12 AM
WOW WOW WOW! Dano... That sure is a great looking spot. Is that your back yard:) Come on guys and gals we all can start planning now.
: Re: Planning thread for NTAGM Spring Shootout
: DanoInTx December 23, 2008, 05:42:37 AM
I knew that'd get the ol' blood going and I was just about to send you a PM to show you that:)
: Re: Planning thread for NTAGM Spring Shootout
: DavidEnoch December 23, 2008, 05:55:26 AM
Hi Dan,
Sounds good to far.  I don't know when spring break will be yet.  That is only a week or two before the Little Rock gun show.
Will this be something we can invite everyone to?

Thanks,

David
: Sorry guys, I meant the 18th and 19th of April.....
: DanoInTx December 23, 2008, 06:13:53 AM
....Thanks David for pointing out that I had my dates a bit off:)

: Re: Planning thread for NTAGM Spring Shootout
: DanoInTx December 23, 2008, 06:26:09 AM
Yea, I don't know when Little Rock is and I don't want to cross over it for anyone that wants to attend both events.  Joel and I spoke about limiting how many people can attend because of shooting space, but since we are spreading it over two days and some people will only attend one day I think we can safely invite any who want to attend....I would say we get a loose headcount and go from there.  There has been some discussion of a cover charge to cover food, mainly because with a larger crowd it's easier to have one big cookout rather than 20 small grills to deal with.  I think in previous discussions someone mentioned a grill on a trailer that could handle quite a bit of meat at one time, but I certainly don't want to disallow someone from attending because they spent their last few dollars just getting there.  We have 4 months to figure it out, hopefully more folks will chime in with more great ideas.
: RE: Planning thread for NTAGM Spring Shootout
: JOHNNY QUEST December 23, 2008, 10:33:48 AM
Dano, ronbeaux and I will help with the food and I would just feel sooooo bad if someone had to buy food..
 So just a small collection of funds from only those that can help will be needed..  The place looks just wonderfull..  I will start planning dinner, plates, plastic forks, knifes, and spoons, paper towels, and all the goodies that go with it..  The time is now and with 4 months ta go a hunert plates , and the such should be easy... :p
: Re: Planning thread for NTAGM Spring Shootout
: DanoInTx December 23, 2008, 12:23:25 PM
Thanks Randall, I was thinking of taking a small collection to pay for Ronbeaux to setup the cooker.  I don't have the freezer space to keep enough food stored for that and it just makes better sense for the cook to pick what he wants to cook.  Would it maybe be better to just charge an "event fee" which includes lunch and an entry into the raffle for a tin of pellets and money towards a small gift to the property owners?  Like I said before, I don't want to say someone can't attend because they don't have cash to add to the pot.   Before anyone wonders or asks, I don't plan on supplying alcohol as part of this shootout, although BYOB is ok until someone gets so hammered we have to take their guns away and throw them in a boat to float away down the river.  This worked out ok last time and everyone was very responsible when it came to alcohol and guns, again....don't make me stuff you in a boat and send you down the river, haha!

I'm going to put this out there because it needs to be said.  The NTAGM has no rules or regulations, or dues, or rental fees or even a form to fill out, we just usually ask that we respect each other and avoid political talks because that NEVER ends good...trust me on this:) 20-30 people with airguns and booze talking politics just gets ugly and disrespectful after a few short minutes.  Also our hosts don't get paid or even really attend the shootout, so we want to leave the property the way we find it or better, and giving the owners a small gift isn't a bad idea either...this is truly their backyard, and they are great for letting us use it.  We may think about organizing a cleanup party both before and after the event so we can leave this place looking better than we find it.  A couple hours with some garbage bags and weedeaters would do this place wonders, maybe the day before if I can get off work early enough and others maybe want to help out?

All sounds good so far, I need to go play with my 4 year old before he dismantles my livingroom, cya!
: Re: Planning thread for NTAGM Spring Shootout
: TCups December 23, 2008, 01:03:51 PM
Dan:

Excellent!  Just Excellent!  Thank you so much for your efforts.  Let me know if the date is indeed  firm and I will book my airline tickets now.  And I will happily volunteer brother Jerry to do any manual labor before or after the shoot (I believe he does have a weed-eater).  And I, for one, heartily agree to the suggestion for doing something very nice for the kind folks who are making this beautiful venue available.  I promise to be on my best behavior.  So, now the only uncertainty I have is how I am going to travel by air and bring along a dozen rifles and a scuba tank.  Perhaps if I bring a fill adaptor, someone would help out with a refill or two?  Maybe shipping the air rifles UPS in advance is an option, but if I do, I will have to watch very carefully to see that brother Jerry does indeed ship them back afterwards.  The only thing short of perfect will be if we can't convince PeakChick to show up for this one.  Thanks again, Dan, to you and the NTAGM.  Looking forward to this one.
: Re: Planning thread for NTAGM Spring Shootout
: DanoInTx December 23, 2008, 03:31:47 PM
I wont say those dates are firm just yet, will wait for more people to chime in before I commit to those days, but so far it looks pretty good.

Personally I'd pick my two favorite guns, stuff them into a airline gun case and check them as baggage, that's what DaveD did when he came out at our last shootout.  There will be plenty of guns there and most people have no problem letting others try them out, I live 15 minutes away and I'll only bring 2 myself.  Filling them can be an issue.  Last time DaveD just brought his fill adapters and we shared my pump, and the other guys brought their own stuff since they were local for the most part.  I'm working on putting together my own bottle/fill rig right now, but I'm only planning on getting a 3000psi bottle, not many fills if we all have to share one bottle.  I wonder if any of the dive shops would rent one out?  I have found a couple places locally that will fill them for a few bucks, if you only bring two/three guns on the plane with you and then just ship your tank to Jerry you'd be all set.  Wish someone had a compressor, that would be sweet!  Flying with airguns doesn't seem to be any issue, although they do require that you empty them of air first and check them as baggage....although Dave said they didn't even check his for air.  Bet you could even check a SCUBA tank too, I mean how do SCUBA divers get their tanks down to their vacation spots?  Of course they will charge you for extra checked baggage....don't know if it would cost more or less than just shipping it.

Looking forward to this one too, hope everyone can make it:)
: Re: Planning thread for NTAGM Spring Shootout
: TCups December 23, 2008, 11:28:28 PM
Only TWO favorite guns?!  Are you out of your freaking mind?  How can I or any air gun enthusiast possibly narrow it down to only 2 favorites?  It just isn't natural.  And, hypothetically, even if I were to narrow it down to my 2 favorites, I know I would probably have an anxiety attack just thinking about transporting them as (gulp) "checked luggage".  Must think about this. . .    I may need your address, just in case I should I decide to ship a gun or two down early.  Would you be willing to take care of them and make sure they didn't get lonely before I was re-united with them at the shoot out?   Please let me know as soon as the dates are firm.  Thanks.
: Re: Planning thread for NTAGM Spring Shootout
: DanoInTx December 24, 2008, 01:56:45 AM
Haha, well Dave bought one of these super duper two gun flight cases where one gun was on top of the other separated by foam, looked pretty secure to me.  More than happy to take receipt of a gun or three in the mail, like Christmas in April:)  Will let you know when the dates are finalised, I need to figure out when Spring break and the Little Rock Arkansas show is this coming year, looks like the first week in May for the show but I haven't been able to confirm that.
: RE: Planning thread for NTAGM Spring Shootout
: JOHNNY QUEST December 24, 2008, 11:15:17 AM
DANO should I bring my kayak for any wayward drinkers to use as a floater....
 The meat will not be much of a problem..  30 people doesn't require a lot of brisket ribs and pork butt...

 2 briskets, 4 racks of ribs, 3 porkbuts will feed an army...  I have a whosale account with restaraunt supply.
  will get some prices and see what it will cost for us...


 By the way that place looks great.....   Ron and I will be at our sisters lakehouse for christmas tomorrow and we can discuss it some....
: Re: Planning thread for NTAGM Spring Shootout
: daved December 24, 2008, 12:19:57 PM
Hey, Dan, what about getting someone to check around for a big N2 tank like I use?  It's 443 cu. ft. at 4500 psi, that's a LOT of fills!  Split the cost between 10 or more PCP shooters and it gets cheap, fast.  And you can't tell me that finding a guy with a pickup is Texas would be a problem :-)!  Don't know if I'm going to be able to make it yet, but I'd be happy to put together a fill station and send it on down.  Keep me posted, Dan, at the least, I can send you my 44 cu. ft. CF tank on loan, if you can find a place to fill it.

Tommy, the case I got holds 2 guns, but they also make a 4 gun case, and maybe even a 6.  It's an SKB, if you're interested, I'll get more details for you.  Guns were VERY secure, and going through the airport was zero hassle.  In fact, the airline (Alaska) didn't even charge me for oversize, just an extra bag.  If I'd known, I could have done a carry on and not paid for the extra checked bag.  I took my AA S400E and my FX Cyclone, pretty sure they didn't budge the whole trip.  I know that having your babies out of sight is traumatic, but these cases are good baby sitters :-).  

Don't know if I can make it this year or not, but I'm going to try.  Had way too much fun last year, and making a 2 day event out of it can only make it better.  Later.

Dave
: RE: Planning thread for NTAGM Spring Shootout
: spark22 December 24, 2008, 03:48:20 PM
I'll see about the no2 airgas also has 6000psi hpa so I will get in touch with them after the hollidays I will also check with my scuba shop to see what she would charge us for some rental tanks.
: Re: Planning thread for NTAGM Spring Shootout
: Jerrycup December 25, 2008, 05:37:44 AM
Dave,

Merry Christmas!

You need to be here in April!! Do we have to take up a collection? I know things in construction may be tough - shouldn't joke. We do want you here.

I need someone who can repair a bathtub enclosure, replace the shower and tub fixtures and re-tile. I guess I could wait until April. Can put you up while the work is underway.

And that was a fine looking case, Dave.

Tommy, when I flew back from GSP with the Remington 870, it was pretty easy. They made me stay at the checkin counter until someone from TSA looked at it. He just took a quick look and asked if it was loaded.

You can shure ship here, but it may have to stay on my porch from the UPS delivery till I get home. And I have seen some rough treatment by the parcel people, too.

J


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: RE: Planning thread for NTAGM Spring Shootout
: tyrrund December 26, 2008, 04:49:18 AM
I will be bringing my 6K nitrogen tank and anyone is welcome to fill from it. When it gets closer and you decide on a date to do a pre cleanup post it and i will join you. Anyhow sounds like a blast cant wait.  kenneth
: Re: Planning thread for NTAGM Spring Shootout
: DanoInTx December 26, 2008, 05:56:31 AM
Awsome!!!!!!

: RE: Planning thread for NTAGM Spring Shootout
: daved December 26, 2008, 09:20:00 AM
Hey, Ken, how big is that 6K tank, and how many cu. ft.?  And how long does it last you, I get 6 months from mine, yours must last a year :-)!

Guys, I checked Alaska Air today, round trip this early is only about $300, I'm thinking I just might be able to make it happen after all.  Jerry, I'd love to help you out with your bathroom repair/remodel, but bringing tools AND guns sounds a little too expensive :-).  Besides, I'm not much of a tile guy, although I've done it, I don't like it that much, and the results tend to show it.  Dan, email me and lets figure out a schedule.  Looks like I'm going to have to make a decision, I've got 2 rifles now with a 3rd on the way, and my case only holds 2 :-)!  Wonder if I can squeeze the 3rd in there...

Dave
: Email on the way..........
: DanoInTx December 26, 2008, 09:23:52 AM
.......
: How does the 18th and 19th of April sound to everyone????
: DanoInTx December 26, 2008, 09:29:39 AM
Looking for approval from everyone to call this a set time, please let me know what you all think, some folks want to book airline tickets and they are cheaper the earlier you buy them. Please let me know asap!
: Re: Planning thread for NTAGM Spring Shootout
: Jerrycup December 26, 2008, 04:25:59 PM
Dan, this is an acceptable date, I see no issue. Weather normal high 77 normal low 57. We average 8 rainy days in a normal April, with 3.2 inches of rainfall in the month.
DaveD, what do you say? You comin'?
David E, will this work for you? Can you get the targets again?

: Re: Planning thread for NTAGM Spring Shootout
: tyrrund December 27, 2008, 01:44:17 AM
Im not sure of the cubic foot but it weighs like 250lbs. If i figured right i should get 100-120 fillups. I talked to the buddy of mine that owns the welding supply where i got it. He is going to let me take another for the weekend ( free of charge) . He cheated off all my tests in high school he owes me.  :emoticon: The dates are cool with me.
: Re: Planning thread for NTAGM Spring Shootout
: daved December 27, 2008, 03:27:34 AM
Okay, based on what I've been able to find out, with nitrogen, it should be 494 cu. ft. at 6K psi, of course.  So for a rifle with a 300cc or so tube like my S400E, filled to 3K and refill at 2K, that would be about 342 fills.  For something like my Cyclone, at about 200 cc's, it's over 500 fills.  For comparison, my tank is about the same size, but at the lower pressure/cu. ft., I'd only get about 200 fills for the S400.  Even if you were filling an Air Force rifle, that's over 200 fills with your tank.  So what are you shooting that you figured only 100-120 fills?  Sounds like you've got the PCP guys covered, nice having friends that owe you :-).

Jerry, still not 100% certain, but looking pretty good.  The wife is vacillating a little bit, but mostly just because of the timing, early spring can get really busy around here, not that the honey-do list is any smaller this time of year :-).  Although if work doesn't pick up, I may still have to sell the S400 to make it.  Dates aren't all that important on my end, once you guys firm it up I'll make my reservations.  Later.

Dave
: 18th and 19th sound great
: spark22 December 27, 2008, 03:49:21 AM
I will be on call but I hardly get any emergencies any more seems they caught all the cooper thieves that were cutting down the phone lines,and people just don't hit poles like they use to.Worst case is I get called out and miss a couple of hours or a day with you fine gentleman but I will be there sometime you can bet on that!Dan does Sherry need any trees trimed or in fact does anyone in the DFW area need it,this is the time of the year to trim up the oak trees I also have a chipper truck to do the haul off!I work real cheap when I have no work at all,any other time I charge big $$$$
: Working on.......
: DanoInTx December 27, 2008, 05:01:47 AM
......figuring out if there are any other airgun related events scheduled for that weekend and also getting local hotel rates/availability, tourist info, etc, etc, together.  I will hopefully have everything compiled by tomorrow (Sunday Dec 28th), at that time I will make an announcement.  Also trying to work out something with a caterer for food and refreshments for the event, not really fair to have guys drive up for the event then spend their whole day cooking.  Also Joel has  arranged to have two large tarp tents at the shootout for us to all huddle under if the weather gets nasty.  If no-one else has read all of the above posts, Ken (a.k.a. Tyrrund) is bringing some large industrial nitrogen cylinders for the PCP guys to get fills from, that should qwell any fears of bringing SCUBA tanks on the plane...Thanks Ken!!!!  I will continue to work on DaveD to get him talked into coming out again and living on my couch, it's a nice couch, he will be fine:)

Question:  Would anyone be interested in having a "pre-shootout" dinner at one of the local establishments for Friday night?  Nothing super fancy, just thought if there was a large enough group I might have to seek out a place that can handle us all.
: RE: Working on.......
: Jerrycup December 27, 2008, 08:26:41 AM
Dan,

Sounds like you are headed towards renting battery powered target carts, and having a beer girl to run to the cooler...

Catered?
Refreshments?
Dinner the night before?

Are you going to hire a string quartet? Damn, this is TEXAS. Forget that California stuff, Dano.

I vote we establish some form of reward/bribery for the "unfairness" that the cook will endure. I thing most BBQ cooks LIKE to do it, and we had a volunteer who has cooked at the International Barbecue Cooking Contest, bubba. :emoticon:

I'll invite the out of towners over to my place for dinner on Friday, but the catering will be handled by Costco.
: Re: Planning thread for NTAGM Spring Shootout
: DanoInTx December 27, 2008, 08:40:18 AM
String quartet and a beer girl,......I'm on it!
: RE: Working on.......
: TCups December 27, 2008, 08:40:24 AM
Jerry:

According to my calculations, Ronbeaux will have a 9 hour round trip drive with the cost of fuel for his truck in order to be able to arrive, set up, and spend most of his time cooking.  Sounds good to me, but just in case Ronbeaux and his wife have a different idea about fun ways to spend a weekend, I think we can certainly be flexible.  And if I fly in Friday afternoon, you will need to fed me TexMex and all the cerveza I can consume.  Plus, I for one would like to hang out with Dano and the NTAGM for some social time and serious drinking before I have to think about shooting and gun safety.  PS:  you are the designated driver.
: RE: Planning thread for NTAGM Spring Shootout
: Jerrycup December 27, 2008, 08:55:14 AM
That's great news, Dave.

Alaska Air! That's a good ticket price for such a long flight.

You may want to ship guns here, too.
Did have a contractor lined up to do the bathroom work, but he seems to be strangely hard to find. I'm sure I can get a local contractor, make a few calls tomorrow.
: RE: Planning thread for NTAGM Spring Shootout
: JOHNNY QUEST December 27, 2008, 10:33:27 AM
Ronbeaux is still at the sisters lake house and will not be able to respond till late tomorrow..
 But being His brother I can assure you that he would rather cook 90% of the time.. he loves it as much as I do...  I have already told him I would Pay half his Fuel to get there and back since Mrs. Quest and I will be staying in the Rv. with him and Tonya... Heck I would have to get a room anyway...  So don't worry yet about catering and such.. I can absolutly gareteee the His back woods Chubby pit is a set it and forget it cooker...

 He will have plenty of time to shoot and enjoy the functions...
 I will be playing second chef [ which I don't usually have to do ] SO ALL IS GOOD...

 KEEP PLANNING BOYS...
: RE: Planning thread for NTAGM Spring Shootout
: TCups December 27, 2008, 11:33:27 AM
Well OkieDokie!  
Tell Ronbeaux I will chip in on some diesel money, too, providing, of course, that the BBQ is up to my high standards! (LOL).  Sure it will be! We will look forward to seeing both of you there, as well as your lovely and talented wives.
: Re: Planning thread for NTAGM Spring Shootout
: DanoInTx December 27, 2008, 12:12:25 PM
Just let me know guys, we still have 4 months and I don't need to know today.  I don't want anyone to have to work, if all else fails we did real well just bringing small BBQ's and cooking our own stuff....it's really no big deal, everyone brings a steak, or some burger, or some dogs, and we cook and eat as needed:)  There is plenty of space on the patio area to setup a few small grills, might actually be the simpler way to go AND give us more room to park with no huge meals on wheels rig....haha!!  More parking means more shooting area since they are one and the same areas.....just a thought.

: I'm a slacker,......
: DanoInTx December 28, 2008, 02:19:16 PM
.....got too busy enjoying my Sunday afternoon rakeing leaves and cleaning the garage to do much research.  I did find out that the only airgun event planned for that weekend is the shoot the guys at Yegua have every month on the 3rd Sunday I think it is, other than that I think we're ok.  The Little Rock show wont be for 2-3 weeks after our planned shootout date, so that wont be a problem.  I hate to plan over the same weekend as the Yegua shoot in case any of those guys want to attend, but I'm afraid that this is just the way it'll have to be since it works for most of our guys.  If someone wanted to attend both they could come Saturday and attend Yegua on Sunday.  I guess what I'm saying is that EVERY weekend is a bad weekend for someone, so I think we should go ahead and plan for the 18th and 19th of April as discussed previously.  

I don't know if everyone read my previous post, but camping will NOT be an option at the shooting area.  The other problem is that it might be pretty difficult to drive an RV down to the shooting area, it's a narrow dirt road downhill from the main residence.   Maybe if we find a place for RV's someone can pick those folks up and drive them to the shooting area?  It might also be an option to park at the top of the hill and hand carry stuff down, but that's a bit of a hassle.  We'll figure it out:)




: Still a slacker........
: DanoInTx December 30, 2008, 12:24:19 PM
....actually spoke with Joel today and he is going to look into the RV park and hotels, he is better at that stuff than me.  I have someone at work that books all of my travel for me or I would probably end up sleeping in my rental car:)  We DID however decide that the dates WILL be the 18th and 19th of April 2009, so go ahead and start planning for it:)
: RE: Planning thread for NTAGM Spring Shootout
: DavidEnoch December 30, 2008, 12:33:09 PM
I'm in and will bring the targets.  This time we should set the Caldwell back a little further, maybe 50 or 75 yards.  I do need to come up with some big bore targets though.

Let me know what else I can do to help.

David Enoch
: Re: Planning thread for NTAGM Spring Shootout
: DanoInTx December 30, 2008, 12:43:19 PM
Thanks David, and in case you didn't see the post above, we have firmed up the dates as the 18th and 19th of April.  Joel is working on camping and hotels.

http://www.gatewaytoairguns.com/airguns/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=12849&mid=103605#M103605

Did your bigbore friends ever email you?  No-one ever returned my emails, and one address came back rejected.  I guess it's still the Holiday Season, so I'm guessing a bunch of folks are still trying to get through New Years before making any big plans.  Bought a scuba tank today and sold my pump, man the tank is so much easier:)
: RE: Planning thread for NTAGM Spring Shootout
: daved December 30, 2008, 01:01:11 PM
Not only move it back, but maybe set it in a more central location, I think I kind of monopolized it last time :-).  I know I can hit it at 50 yards, not sure I can make them fall with the .177's.  But the .22 PCP's shouldn't have a problem.  99.9% sure I'll make it, already looking forward to it.  Later.

Dave
: RE: Planning thread for NTAGM Spring Shootout
: TexasShooter72 January 07, 2009, 09:39:47 AM
This sure is a sweet shooting location.  I do think though that I under-did Joel's steak last time!  I kinda thought it needed longer- I just didn't want him to be the last one eating.  How did you guys like the pasta salad?  I'm thinking I'll do up another batch if it was a hit.  Might bring my garlic, fresh basil, red pepper red potatoes too this time around.

Let's see what happens!
: RE: Planning thread for NTAGM Spring Shootout
: DanoInTx January 07, 2009, 01:32:36 PM
TexasShooter72 - 1/7/2009  4:39 PM

This sure is a sweet shooting location.  I do think though that I under-did Joel's steak last time!  I kinda thought it needed longer- I just didn't want him to be the last one eating.  How did you guys like the pasta salad?  I'm thinking I'll do up another batch if it was a hit.  Might bring my garlic, fresh basil, red pepper red potatoes too this time around.

Let's see what happens!


I love that location too, I actually went back the following weekend and did a little more shooting, hehe!!!  When I PMed you a few minutes ago I had potatoes on the brain, I meant pasta salad would be great, not potato salad...but I like potato salad too:)  I'm kinda starting to think our best bet is to just do the BBQ thing again and have everybody bring what they want to eat, plus a little extra for the guys who come from out of town and can't bring anything.  The separate BBQ's worked fine last time, and we all kinda threw on what we wanted, when we wanted it, so there was plenty of room.  Maybe we can get a few guys to volunteer their BBQ grills again??  Anyone??  I have a small camp stove that may be good enough for heating a pot of beans, and maybe a burger or two.  We will probably have all of the tables and chairs like we had last time, but if someone has a favorite chair, or a shooting bench (like me), then they can bring that also.

Just to be clear for everyone reading this thread, the shootout dates are April 18th and 19th of April 2009.  We will probably do a headcount before too long to see who is bringing who, and who is bringing what:)
: RE: Planning thread for NTAGM Spring Shootout
: JOHNNY QUEST January 08, 2009, 01:00:13 PM
it all sounds good to me...   I cook a mean chicken on an old smokey...  and thier easy to load....
: RE: Planning thread for NTAGM Spring Shootout
: spark22 January 09, 2009, 02:01:54 PM
I'll bring my  big weber grill again and charcoal.
: RE: OK.....it looks like we are coming since Dan
: CharlieDaTuna January 18, 2009, 01:04:51 PM
invited us not that the food wasn't part of the consideration. (A big part)...lol...8)

Gene and I discussed it again today and decided that we are going to commit to flying in for the shootout unless something unforeseen happens to prevent it. It seems that TCups (Tommy) has already made his arrangements unless I'm mistaken.

 We may have a bit of a problem though. With big Tommy coming:), me with my big head 8), and Gene with his big belly :D, we're unsure if the state of Texas is big enough to handle all of that. :p  It's already taking two different planes. Another issue..... is there going to be enough food??? We here in SC eat like it's the last supper, usually 5-6 times a day and we git started early.:o  

Hopefully it will be a big turnout with good weather. (Someone said that they don't have bad weather in Texas...lol...) All three of us are sure looking forward to the shootout and meeting as many of the members as possible, having a great time and a weekend of fun and festivities.  8)

And Dan.... get a rocking chair for me will ya???.

Thank you Dan for the invitation and thank you gang. We'll see you all at the range.

Bob and Gene
: RE: OK.....it looks like we are coming since Dan
: TCups January 18, 2009, 01:14:03 PM
Yep, I will be there for sure.  Say Dan -- do they have boiled peanuts in TX or should we bring our own?
: Re: Planning thread for NTAGM Spring Shootout
: Gene_SC January 18, 2009, 01:31:18 PM
We also love RedNeck Seafood Dishes. Will there be anything like this on the menu?....:)
: Re: Planning thread for NTAGM Spring Shootout
: TCups January 18, 2009, 01:47:15 PM
Oscar Mayer calamari.  Yum!
: RE: Planning thread for NTAGM Spring Shootout
: JOHNNY QUEST January 19, 2009, 05:00:27 AM
THAT IS SUCH GREAT NEWS GUYS!!!!    I live close to the coast so I will try to find some Nice sized shrimps to grill on a stick....We can make shrimp and weiner kabobs...Its a 5 hr drive for me so I will be staying at the ranch thats 2.5 hours south... So I can do both days....Looking forward to meeting some of the family....
: RE: Planning thread for NTAGM Spring Shootout
: CharlieDaTuna January 19, 2009, 09:41:30 AM
Hey Randall... are you serious.... grill shrimp on a stick. I'm a bit confused. :o  Do you mean that you hollow out a stick and put them inside or do you mean that you skewer them on a stick.:0   Around here we gotta grill them on tooth picks or a lenght of thin wire.  :p   And I do love dem shrimps...lol... 8)
: RE: Planning thread for NTAGM Spring Shootout
: JOHNNY QUEST January 19, 2009, 10:57:29 AM
Bob , down here in texas we slide them over a closet rod , they are so big....  Just wittle one end down and slip them on... :)

 I will bring SHRIMPS for you guys,,, you all bring the weiners....
: Re: Planning thread for NTAGM Spring Shootout
: Mike Lykins January 23, 2009, 09:50:55 AM
Man that back yeard is SAWEEET
If you can find a spot for me to camp on site I will bring 25 of the best Field Targets ever made by an old friend mine who passed away last year

: Re: Planning thread for NTAGM Spring Shootout
: DanoInTx January 24, 2009, 03:26:01 AM
Mike Lykins - 1/23/2009  4:50 PM

Man that back yeard is SAWEEET
If you can find a spot for me to camp on site I will bring 25 of the best Field Targets ever made by an old friend mine who passed away last year



Hey Mike,

There isn't any camping on site, but "sometime soon" we should have some local campsites found and added to this thread.  Would love to add more folks to the shootout, it's a wonderful place to shoot.
: Re: Planning thread for NTAGM Spring Shootout
: daved January 24, 2009, 03:38:42 AM
Hey, Dan, mostly idle curiosity, but do you have any idea of a head count yet?  Count me in, although I'm going to have a terrible time deciding which rifles to bring now :-).  I wonder if I can squeeze 4 guns into my 2 gun case?  Later.

Dave
: Re: Planning thread for NTAGM Spring Shootout
: Gene_SC January 24, 2009, 03:46:31 AM
I am curious if there will be any fill stations there for PCP's? Otherwise I will just bring my springers..:) What wil you be bringing Dave?
: Re: Planning thread for NTAGM Spring Shootout
: daved January 24, 2009, 03:50:17 AM
One of the local guys is bringing at least one 6K psi nitrogen cylinder, should be able to feed a lot of PCP's for quite awhile :-).  Trust me, all your PCP's will like running on nitrogen.  I was figuring that you, Bob, and Ed would just rent a Uhaul to load all your guns in and drive down :-).  Later.

Dave
: Re: Planning thread for NTAGM Spring Shootout
: Gene_SC January 24, 2009, 03:55:19 AM
LOL Dave.. Bob and me are flying and I do not know if Ed is coming  yet. That is good news so I can bring at least one PCP. Was just gonna bring two guns total and Bob will probably not bring any. I now have to find a good sturdy case for my two air guns.
: Re: Planning thread for NTAGM Spring Shootout
: daved January 24, 2009, 09:12:32 AM
This is the one I got, Gene, and where I got it: http://tradingpostsupply.com/skb5009.html  Did some checking around, I think these guys had the best price at the time, that may have changed since then.  It's a really nice case, and is TSA approved.  What's more, Alaska Air didn't even charge me for an oversize bag when I checked it.  They also have a 4 gun version, at the moment, I'm wishing I had that one :-).  Later.

Dave
: Re: Planning thread for NTAGM Spring Shootout
: Gene_SC January 24, 2009, 09:37:09 AM
Is this the same one Dave?
http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/product/standard-item.jsp?_DARGS=/cabelas/en/common/catalog/item-link.jsp_A&_DAV=netcon&id=0037549227936a&navCount=0&podId=0037549&parentId=&masterpathid=&navAction=jump&catalogCode=IJ&rid=&parentType=&indexId=cat20772&hasJS=true
: Re: Planning thread for NTAGM Spring Shootout
: Gene_SC January 24, 2009, 09:47:57 AM
Here is the Quad case: http://www.sportsmansguide.com/net/cb/cb.aspx?a=376942
: Re: Planning thread for NTAGM Spring Shootout
: Jerrycup January 24, 2009, 01:20:00 PM
Camping areas at Lake Benbrook (Corps of Engineers Lake) are within about five miles of the Shootout site. See:
http://www.swf-wc.usace.army.mil/benbrook/Recreation/Camping/index.asp

I reviewed the hotels nearby, and my judgment is that this is the best one (Tommy has reservations):

Holiday Inn Express Hotel & Suites Fort Worth-West (I-30)?
2730 Cherry Lane
Fort Worth, TX 76116
(877) 863-4780
: Reasons to come to the NTAGM shoot
: Jerrycup February 08, 2009, 10:33:41 AM
You can see the King Tut exhibit while you are here.
http://www.kingtut.org/home
I understand this is quite an exhibit, produced by National Geographic magazine, in downtown Dallas.

You could go to a Jimmy Buffett concert in Frisco Saturday (Frisco is an exurb NW of Dallas this is about 56 miles from the shoot), the concert is at a nice big monor league baseball park, good venue.
Tickets for this go on sale Monday, February 9.
http://www.buffettworld.com/

It's going to be fun. Count on it.

We can expect good weather (no promises).

Great place to shoot (I promise).

Big name airgun gurus from all over will be there (I promise). Mike Melick may eventually decide he has to come, he could drive down to Houston and get a load of those new BAM's. We could all save shipping (no promises).



: Don't forget.......
: DanoInTx February 08, 2009, 01:55:30 PM
.......I will be signing autographs!!!!

I'm just trying to give more reasons to come to the shootout:)  And if Jimmy Buffet, King Tut and myself aren't enough of a draw for you folks, then please also remember that Fort Worth is where The West begins!  There is a pretty decent nightlife here in Fort Worth including:

The  Fort Worth Stockyards (http://www.fortworthstockyards.org/)
Billy Bobs Texas (http://www.billybobstexas.com/)
Sundance Square (http://www.sundancesquare.com/)

But hopefully Jimmy Buffet and me are enough motivation:)

Maybe I should add this to the shootout webpage?  Thoughts Jerry?


: RE: Don't forget.......
: daved February 08, 2009, 04:33:13 PM
Hey, you're forgetting all the other famous airgun celebs flying in from out of town like ME, Bob Werner aka CDT, Gene of Airgun Tunz, ME...  No applause, please, just throw money, or pellets (full tins only, thank you).  What more reason could anyone need ;-)?  See ya'll there!

Dave
: RE: Don't forget.......
: Jerrycup February 09, 2009, 01:43:22 PM
Yes, NTAGM guests will enjoy meeting Dave. He is a real marksman, and brought two beautiful rifles all the way from Washington. He gave me a few nice pointers last year, and quickly pointed out something my rifle needed. He may not be a "famous" airgunner, but I certainly look forward to seeing him in a couple of months.


: Added events to the NTAGM page.....
: DanoInTx February 14, 2009, 12:22:34 PM
http://www.airgunartisans.com/NTAGM_April/

Added some "things to do" in D/FW to the shootout homepage, hope this will sway some of you that haven't made up your minds on whether to visit beautiful sunny Texas in April yet:)
: Re: Planning thread for NTAGM Spring Shootout
: Jerrycup April 13, 2009, 09:42:13 PM
For any of you thinking of flying in to the NTAGM shoot, there are American Airlines "last minute" fares to DFW and Love Field that allow you to fly out Friday evening (in some cases) or Saturday, and return either Monday or Tuesday. These fares are pretty low, in some cases they promote a new route at t remarkable price. For anyone in central Wisconsin, this is your chance! These fares can be booked on AA.com up until Friday this week. Come join us! Here is the list of cities, round trip airfare shown:

Albuquerque, NM   $192
Atlanta, GA   $196
Cedar Rapids, IA   $240
Corpus Christi, TX   $140
Des Moines, IA   $240
Ft. Walton Beach, FL   $240
Lawton, OK   $134
Los Angeles, CA   $258
Louisville, KY   $238
Lubbock, TX   $110
Midland / Odessa, TX   $110
Central Wisconsin, WI   $112
Chicago O'Hare, IL   $210