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Gateway To Product Reviews => Non-Productive Posts => : rbshoots December 04, 2009, 01:04:21 AM
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Since I have only been here a short time, I have a question about rules and protocol..... I have noticed that on several threads the names of airgun tuners have been removed and replaced with (*%$#@)&^%&* and so on.... why is that? Is it because *()_%$ has this forum registered to him and wishes to keep any compitition from getting their names out there? I thought that these forums were here to help airgunners and promote the sport, not used as a platform to generate business for the owners and those annointed by them.... Am I wrong?
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Randy,,,,,
Those names don't appear because due to the actions of those individuals the forum owners found it necessary to ban them from the forum.
As for the mission of the forum being to help airgunners and promote the sport...... that's exactly what GTA does, I think that fact is clearly evident !!
Once you get to know the members of this forum better you will realize just how great the membership of GTA is and the positive effects the forum has.
I'll be looking forward to your future posts :)
Jeff
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From a not Forum kind of guy here!
I watched this one & 2-3 more for a few weeks before I posted any thing !!
I have no knowage of air guns ! & can't spell /
& no one has got onto me for Blasting a air gun Co. that did me wrong ! but is working with me-
too fit my TF97,22cal.
I have had very good help from everyone here, & if I'ed lesson to them ? I would not have the problem.
With a my 2 cents I can get 9.5 Pellets!!
& did i add it right??
anyway A Big Welcome from TX, Randy
any sport I can do from a arm chair works for me
:) Ron
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I didn't answer you post right away,
because I couldn't put into words what our eloquent Moderator Jeff just has !
But that's the facts !
Here on the GTA we promote SAFETY FIRST AND ALLWAYS ! If someone disagrees with that, they will be asked not to encourage unsafe practices or dangerous procedures. If they continue, they will be BANNED ! And if they are in the business of air guns, their link will be blocked to protect our members and guestsfrom unsafe advice and products.
All other dealers have no restrictions to their links. Even the dealers that are in our Mall Section are fine and good dealers. All of us have used them at one time or another.
Bill
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Hi Randy and welcome to the GTA:) I can assure you everything about GTA will be a great Air Gun experience for You, if that's what you are looking for. The moderators are all fine gentlemen and women they will not put up with anyone breaking the rules , I have found first hand that the purpose of this forum is for ALL levels of AG enthusiasts and of course help promote the sport .. the more the better :),People with a passion for something get involved by helping and to offer service if needed.. no platforms /soapboxes hear so enjoy :) Some post alot and some do not its up to you really..one thing is you will not see any of the @#$%&* people ..because they will be culled:) Tony
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Thanks all for the welcome....firstof all let me tell you a little aboutmyself...... have been airgunning for quite awhile and am considering going into the airgun business as a side venture with my brother. We will would buy, sell, and trade as well as offer some tuning services.......I have used a few and talked to a few tuners and in conversations with one in particuar not much good was said about gene.....more to the point that he and charlie are using this forum as an advertising forum for their respective business ventures.........I belong to other airgun forums and they have plenty of knowledgable members that can and do correct bad information as well as a place to get the word out on disreputable dealers and tuners and sellers......This all stikes me as a "if you don't like the rules I will take my ball and go home" kinda childish attitude......if there are people putting out bad or dangerous info, they need to be exposed not bushed back to the shadows to posible pass on the dangerous practices they are advising........So while I can understand the position you claim that the moderators re in....I am not buying it.....I am not here to cause trouble, and it seems from reading the posts there are a lot of impressionable neophytes to the airgun world on this forum......I just would like to see more open disscussions about the good and bad of people in the airgun bisuness... not personal grudge matches and overt self promotion.......hope you understand where I am coming from.........BTW.... don't you think some curtosy is in order when moving posts to the "back room" where most people are unlikely to go and read it? this plays into the assurtions that many make about what goes on in here.......
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rbshoots - 12/5/2009 10:00 AM Thanks all for the welcome....firstof all let me tell you a little aboutmyself...... have been airgunning for quite awhile and am considering going into the airgun business as a side venture with my brother. We will would buy, sell, and trade as well as offer some tuning services.......I have used a few and talked to a few tuners and in conversations with one in particuar not much good was said about gene.....more to the point that he and charlie are using this forum as an advertising forum for their respective business ventures.........I belong to other airgun forums and they have plenty of knowledgable members that can and do correct bad information as well as a place to get the word out on disreputable dealers and tuners and sellers......This all stikes me as a "if you don't like the rules I will take my ball and go home" kinda childish attitude......if there are people putting out bad or dangerous info, they need to be exposed not bushed back to the shadows to posible pass on the dangerous practices they are advising........So while I can understand the position you claim that the moderators re in....I am not buying it.....I am not here to cause trouble, and it seems from reading the posts there are a lot of impressionable neophytes to the airgun world on this forum......I just would like to see more open disscussions about the good and bad of people in the airgun bisuness... not personal grudge matches and overt self promotion.......hope you understand where I am coming from.........BTW.... don't you think some curtosy is in order when moving posts to the "back room" where most people are unlikely to go and read it? this plays into the assurtions that many make about what goes on in here.......
sounds like you may be the perfect candidate for the yellow forum,, where lies and deciete are spread without respect for anyone.
I personaly havent seen Gene or Bob promote thier buisness other that a sticky here at all.
they both participate in the airgun knowledge and pass it freely.. I don't see post from them that are advertizing ever.. I really think that thier work in developing the airgun comunity here is second to none..
The GTA is exactly what it says.. A gateway to airgun knowledge..
I started here and will die here.. I looked at the other childrens sites and decided that I wanted no part of what they promoted, argueing, ^itchin, whineing, and slander.. Not for me...
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rbshoots - 12/5/2009 11:00 AM Thanks all for the welcome....firstof all let me tell you a little aboutmyself...... have been airgunning for quite awhile and am considering going into the airgun business as a side venture with my brother. We will would buy, sell, and trade as well as offer some tuning services.......I have used a few and talked to a few tuners and in conversations with one in particuar not much good was said about gene.....more to the point that he and charlie are using this forum as an advertising forum for their respective business ventures.........I belong to other airgun forums and they have plenty of knowledgable members that can and do correct bad information as well as a place to get the word out on disreputable dealers and tuners and sellers......This all stikes me as a "if you don't like the rules I will take my ball and go home" kinda childish attitude......if there are people putting out bad or dangerous info, they need to be exposed not bushed back to the shadows to posible pass on the dangerous practices they are advising........So while I can understand the position you claim that the moderators re in....I am not buying it.....I am not here to cause trouble, and it seems from reading the posts there are a lot of impressionable neophytes to the airgun world on this forum......I just would like to see more open disscussions about the good and bad of people in the airgun bisuness... not personal grudge matches and overt self promotion.......hope you understand where I am coming from.........BTW.... don't you think some curtosy is in order when moving posts to the "back room" where most people are unlikely to go and read it? this plays into the assurtions that many make about what goes on in here.......
Randy,
It seem that you have come to us with a complete and permanent opinion concerning our Forum and its owners. I find this type of attitude suspicious at best !
If you wanted to genuinely learn the facts about the GTA you would have performed some research here to learn if these accusations were accurate or justsower grapes. But you choose to attack the owners of this Forum !
If you unfounded accusations continue, your post will be moved to the Non-Productive Posts Section !
Th GTA IS a GREAT Forum open to ALL respectable air gunners ! But WE will not tolerate persons that enjoy spreading negative, false and misleading information to our members here !
We know what we got, and that's why we're here !
Bill
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Randy, We like to be nice and discuss AG's at GTA. IMO You will do well not to say things about people you dont know.
Quote from your reply (reading the posts there are a lot of impressionable neophytes to the airgun world on this forum)
The meaning
Quote (1.Beginner a beginner or novice at something 2. a recent convert to a religion 3. a new resident of a religious community who has not yet taken vows?
BTW the back room is where you are suppost to be when not discussing AG's:)
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"Open discussion about good and bad people in the airgun business" would only start verbal assults. Peoples oppinions are different. You may agree w/ one person, I w/ another. We could never ]possibly] agree with eachother. All the bickering would turn this GREAT PLACE TO BE into the YELLOW forum. I have NEVER been put down about any of my airguns, questions, oppinions, spelling, etc... on this forum.I have and do read many other foums, and only here do I post.I feel like I personally know most people here. They share in my excitement and they encourage me when I need it. You cant ask for more than that.I have seen so many examples of selfless acts, courtesy, friendship and support that it is staggering.When a "troll" shows up, he/she is removed before things get out of hand. Good job modereators! I am PROUD to be a member here.I choose NOT to be a member elsware.
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After a complete evaluation of the said posters post I say TROLL.... JMO... I would consider a complete zappin of his IP adress, but thats just me, and I aint no moderator... Altho I should be... lol
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:) GTA thank you for haveing me on your web page
WE ARE FAMILY HERE . I could go on & on about all this web site has done for me ??
They Don't know me ! But give all kinds of support from a Red Rider to PCP, and all in between,
& My spelling is at the low end :D ..
But you know it's Happy here, :) :)
Try too find that just anywhere??
Ron from NC , now in TX , I'm Disabled & shoot from an arm chair.!
I'm HAPPY HERE,
I'ed repeat Bill's (posting Here____).
sure ther are more too come in defence of this web site!!
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I have used a few and talked to a few tuners and in conversations with one in particuar not much good was said about gene.....more to the point that he and charlie are using this forum as an advertising forum for their respective business ventures....
First, IF that were true it would be the prerogative of those who own the forum. Second, I have posted lots of links and asked for information that would not help a tuning business, and the first person to jump in has been Gene... always helpful, always genuine. Third, bad comments about Gene? Really?! I find that unfathomable. He's honest, trustworthy, and an AWESOME TUNER...I have two rifles out to him right now and one coming back in the mail. I recommend him because he does a GREAT job. This post is the first negative I have ever seen about his services, and I also see it is NOT deleted. If I were them I might consider deleting this whole thread. It is obviously malicious. Fourth, Mike in Iowa posts here all the time. he is a tuner with a seeming specialty in the B26 and B28 -- and I've never heard a bad thing about him and never saw a post deleted.
You are completely out of line.
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Agreed, Mr. Quest.
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Well i read several forum's when i started with airgun's looking for info on various AG's.I found the BEST most INFORMATIVE info here so here i is and here i stay!!!!!! Nuff said . lol
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rbshoots (Randy) has had his say and despite numerous replies from forum members on the issue Randy simply states that "he's not buying it". I hope in time that Randy will change his view of GTA, it's members, moderators and owners, but that decision is of course up to him. That being said I feel this thread has run it's course and I'm moving it to the "Non Productive" gate. If the forum owners decide to over rule me and re-instate the thread that is certainly their prerogative, but for the present time I'm moving and closing the thread..
Jeff
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It was I that moved it from the airgun gate to the back room as it was not airgun related and way off topic but did let it run.
Thank you Jeff for closing and moving this thread and it will stay in the non-productive folder and will be forever lost and not brought forward again (but still available). I would have done it if you had not after reading it. It would certainly appear that rbshoots is a troll and those kinds of persons will not be tolerated here. There are a lot of other forums on the Internet that he can stand on his soapbox and peddle his trash but it will not be on this one. If it persists, he will be permanently eliminated from our forums.
Thank you again Jeff for your services to the GTA....after all, that's what we pay you the big bucks for....lol...