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General Discussion To Gateway To Airguns => Back Room => : CharlieDaTuna August 01, 2006, 11:43:30 AM
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It's something that is done on a couple of other forums. Maybe with some kind of prize...like a free post or something...lol :p
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one. I think the guys may like that one..:) We can work on the rules for winnin a nice prize... :) U thingk they would want Cash?/ lol
Gene
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suggestions on the idea. After all, it's your forum :) Like..... who's gomma donate the first prize...lol :p That is of course assuming there would be a prize :0
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Well CharlieDaTuna, u gots a mouse n ur pocket boy.... he he.. I thought this forum belonged to all of us...:)
Well I could figuer out something to donate.. I have some old chonies wiff holes in da seat...:)
On a serious note: How about some pellets, scope, mounts, or even an airgun. The sky is the limit I guess.. What do you think??
Gene
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how about a free tune or blade? =D
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I was looking at some kind of a little trinket type thing just as a point of recognition. I think maybe I stuck my foot in somthin'...lol...
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Dang Charlie, da guys will think I am a scrooge if I hand out key chains............ LOL
Gene
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well something very siimple and cheap would be to hand out a coupon for X% off a CDT purchase.
You decide how much X should be.
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Not if you put some keys on that key chain and maybe a few gold nuggets :)
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It seems to encourage "elitism" - a "popularity contest" if you like. IMO, all posts are worthwhile to someone, somewhere - and a potential poster should not be made to feel "inferior" to others due to a lack of writing eloquence, a lesser command of the English language, etc. On the other hand, some individual, having been "post of the month" winner a couple of times could have his ego inflated to the point of being unbearable - a "know-it-all" "airgun god" - so to speak. ALL posts should be viewed as being of equal value and relevance. My $00.02 CDN - FWIW.
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You do have a good opinion of the other side. You are absolutly right about all posts. Although I had not thought about the downside to that idea. I would never want to make anyone feel inferior.
The thought of post of the month was to bring out the best in our forum. People who would normaly not post would have an incentive to post about an air gun related experience or something related.
Maybe you might want to add some more of your cents and come up with a better plan....:
Thanks for the other side of the coin..
Gene
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not all opinions or arguments are equally valuable.
One can certainly argue that no "prize" should be given to anyone and we should all just post away, but your argument of all posts being equal just flies in the face of reality.
I learn more from one of JPs posts than I do from hundreds of others, and I would include mine among them.
Some people just know more, and have a great way of communicating their experience and wisdom.
Doesn't mean that they deserve some prize for it, but let's be honest and not pretend that all posts are equally valuable or relevant, because they simply aren't.
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"not all opinions or arguments are equally valuable" - Maybe not necessarily to you or I, but perhaps to someone out there? Who makes that decision of worthiness?
"your argument of all posts being equal just flies in the face of reality"; "let's be honest and not pretend that all posts are equally valuable or relevant, because they simply aren't"- Why? These posts are based upon opinions, experiences, knowledge (perceived or actual), or experimentation of an individualistic nature. I've been involved in shooting and airguns for over 30 years - "been there, done that" many times over, but I make no claims to knowing all there is to know. Dismissing even a newbie post can be an opportunity lost. It's all a matter of perspective.
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Maybe y'all should just give me the prize instead of talking about it so much....I coulld really use a new Harley!
Dan
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Again, JMO, but there are many excellent, and very articulate posts on this forum, and many of the others that I frequent - and none of these posts were "solicited" through a "reward program" for the poster. With a casual atmosphere, potential posters feel more relaxed. Folks that enjoy talking airguns, or any subject, really don't need an incentive plan - it just happens - all they need is a friendly meeting place and a receptive audience.
I really don't have a better plan in this regard - but I do appreciate the opportunity to express my opinion without fear of reprizal for presenting a dissenting viewpoint. Thank you for that.
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Further responses would only defeat the purpose of my original response.
If you wish to think that everything is of equal value, then mnore power to ya.
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may not be such a good idea at all....:) This forum has been coming along very well since Charlie and I opened the doors. All the posts have been great. I would be hard pressed to even try and pick the post of the month...:) I have learned a great deal more myself with all the information that you all have placed in your posts. I would not want to change this for the world. As a team we are doing fantastic here. I know I keep saying this but this is your forum.
So far, all of you guys have made this forum a great place for others to come and obtain and share knowledge.
I thank each and everyone of ya for your support, help and contributions.
Gene
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A friend of mine had an expression - "I will fight to the death for your right to express your opinion - even if it is wrong". LOL !!!!!
Seriously now - with the diversity of people here, there will always be differences of opinion - after all, wouldn't life be a bore if everyone thought exactly alike? We can agree to disagree on this point, but we do continue to enjoy shooting our airguns - so I guess we both share the opinion that airguns are cool. Keep 'em in the ten ring, my friend.
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So uhm, uh, do I still get my Harley?
really though, it makes sense. Competition breeds jealousy, and jealousy breeds....well, you get my point. You're right, but what about a raffle? Maybe people with junk stuff laying around like say tins of pellets, or uhm chinese spring left over from a repair kit, or a jar of peanuts, or say maybe a Harley? They could offer it up to you, and you could just take all of the names from the monthly postings and draw a random name, and the offerer could send the winner the item? No competition there, just fun like Bingo. Oh yea, when I say random, I mean the stuff BESIDES the Harley, we all know THAT lucky draw will be legit(wink). I dunno, just a thought. I have a set of Fast Deer sights sitting out in my garage I doubt I'll ever need, and I'm willing to be the first to offer up. And no, if you live on some island where I'd have to pay a native surf swimmer to deliver them YOU will pay for shipping.
Dan
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I'm holdin' out for the Harley. 8)
And my guess on the bullet/pellet thing is: the same time.
Mike
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nmmike - 8/5/2006 9:15 PM
I'm holdin' out for the Harley. 8)
And my guess on the bullet/pellet thing is: the same time.
Mike
Yup, I'd rather have the Harley too.
Bullet vs. Pellet...good answer and correct. Speed of course does not effect gravity on a level plane. I had one other answerer in my inbox, but it was wrong. So two things dropped at the same time will hit the ground at the same time, regardless of weight...or so Newton says. So why would forward motion change that at all. Some people after sighting in their rifles at different ranges get this idea into their heads that projectiles somehow grow wings during forward motion. Which we of course know is not true. The sights/scope on a gun actually correct for the amount gravity will play on an object by the time the object reaches a defined distance. So actually a level gun, level as per the line of sight, has it's bore canted at a slightly upward angle. Glad someone else agrees:) Of course the bullet will have travelled further than the pellet because if it takes both 1 second to drop to the ground due to gravity, and one is going 800fps it will have travelled 800feet(in a perfect airless world), and the bullet at 3000fps will have travelled 3000feet. Of course due to wind resistance there will be deceleration, so this would not happen....if it could happen we wouldn't be able to breath:)
Dan
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We do no live on a "flat earth", we live on a ball.
Because of that - if a projectile is shot over "level" ground (that is, the ground is equidistant from the earth's center), from the projectile's perspective the ground would seem to be "falling away" even as the projectile falls towards it.
That is the reason that satellite orbits are possible. Satellites are always falling towards earth (that is, being moved by the earth's gravity), but they don't actually hit it.
If the bullet was shot fast enough (and designed with sufficiently low aerodynamic drag and didn't hit anything), it could literally circle the entire earth and hit the shooter in the keester.
The amount of this effect depends on a great number of factors... espectially the distance from the surface at which the shots were fired.
According to my rough calculations (because of the relatively minute distances involved, many simplifications are possible while getting a decent answer) - the 3000fps bullet will hit the ground about 20 milliseconds (.02 sec) later than the pellet.
I told you the difference wasn't much - but there is a difference.
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Very good answer, I expected an appeal! Yes, in the case of the round earth, if we were say 1000feet off of the "level" ground you might get a measurable difference. I have been trumped, and I will accept that. Let's pretend there was more room in the quotes section for me to say the "level" ground was perfectly level, and before it's mentioned let's say the bullet and pellet are exactly the same shape, just different weights and speed, then they would hit at EXACTLY the same time...as per Newton. I did mention "perfect World" conditions though, and unless I join the Flat Earth Society, you win. Dang, now I have to think of something different.
You did however make a point about orbiting masses, which I plan to add to the quotes:)
Dan