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PCP - HPA - C02 Gate => QB-7X Gate -W/Co2 & HPA => : hiroller September 04, 2008, 05:21:53 AM

: My New Flying Dragon!
: hiroller September 04, 2008, 05:21:53 AM
No pics yet 'cause I haven't received it, but Mike Melick said he'd be shipping it today. I emailed him the other day for a deluxe but he's out of them. He had one fully tuned standard .22 ready to go though and it's his last one until October. I can't wait, especially after all the good things I've been reading about the Flying Dragon guns. Now I'm more of a synthetic stock person. I don't mind the wood stock, but if there's an opportunity to switch I'd do it. Does anyone know if there are any custom synthetics available for the QB's, or perhaps something that can be modified to work?
: Re: My New Flying Dragon!
: Gene_SC September 04, 2008, 06:57:22 AM
Congratulation Jay on your new QB. You could not of bought one of those any better than from Mike. Mike is the word on those and many other's. I am sure you will just love it and will be showing off pictures of it very soon.:) As far as a synthetic stock goes, maybe someone else may chime in and give you some help on that.

Gene
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: airgun/cuz September 04, 2008, 07:48:25 AM
Jay,congrats on your new QB,I am also waiting for my QB from MIKE, I wouldn't have dealt with anyone beside him,when it comes to this gun,he is a great gentleman to deal with,I got the deluxe hooked-up through MIKE.......looking forward to putting a few rounds through mine,I'm sure you are too..
: Re: My New Flying Dragon!
: hiroller September 04, 2008, 07:57:07 AM
Thanks guys - this'll be my first tuned co2 gun and I'm pretty excited.  I'm not familiar with QBs at all and can't picture how 2 co2 powerlets would go in, but I guess I'll just wait and see.  Anything I need to know as a new and first time QB owner/shooter, other than take it out and start shooting and having a blast?
: Re: My New Flying Dragon!
: PeakChick September 04, 2008, 09:37:15 AM
Unscrew the pressure tube end cap. Put a drop of Crossman Pell Gun Oil on the nipple end of each cart. Drop one cart. in nipple forward, toward the trigger, drop the other on top, nipple out, towards the muzzle. Screw the pressure tube cap on as far as it will go, snug. Back the cap off till you feel the CO2 presure lock the cap, about 1/8 to 1/4 turn. Cock the bolt, snap off a "dry" shot to pierce the receiver end cart. Let the CO2 temp. warm a bit and go shootin.'
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: hiroller September 04, 2008, 10:20:55 AM
Awesome - thanks Peak!
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: Jaymo September 05, 2008, 05:01:42 PM
You can always refinish your stock with spray on bedliner. It looks like a synthetic stock and is very durable.
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: TCups September 05, 2008, 08:29:08 PM
Keep the threads of the cap oiled, too.  It helps.
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: hiroller September 05, 2008, 10:59:45 PM
That's close to what I had in mind Jaymo, but I was thinking of doing a camo job.  I'm going to order a replacement stock and do work on that one in case I mess things up.
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: Gene_SC September 06, 2008, 01:35:07 AM
Remember we have a camo design specialist in the GTA "Shadows Camo Designs". He does awsome work at a fair price. Several of the GTA members including myself have had our air rifles camoed by the Ed, aka "Shadow". Here is a picture of my B-3 that he did. Good luck

Gene
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: Jaymo September 06, 2008, 05:35:10 AM
I use silicone oil on the cap threads, because it's what I use on the cap seal. I had one 78 that had a cap that was tighter than a nun's cherry, and another that was loose as a goose. so I swapped caps between them, and now they both have caps that fit perfectly.
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: Jaymo September 06, 2008, 05:38:43 AM
I wonder if a shadow camo job applied over bedliner would be a good, durable, grippy option. I have no doubts whatsoever about Ed's awesome camo jobs. I just wonder how well the paint would stick to the bedliner. If it works, it would be sweet. Camo that's as tough as Rhino Liner. Nice texture, too. I'm not crazy about the pebble/stone type paints. They feel awfully rough.
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: mikeiniowa September 07, 2008, 11:19:13 PM
There are three manuals with the rifle, the factory one is OK, really read the other two as they tell you more than you want to know about the QB's,
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: longislandhunter September 07, 2008, 11:33:01 PM
Ed is so good when it comes to camo I'll betcha he could get a camo pattern to stick on water   8)

Jeff
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: hiroller September 08, 2008, 01:50:35 AM
Wow that looks great Gene.  Yeah I've seen Shadow's work and it's amazing.  I'm planning on trying it out myself on a replacement stock I'll order.  When it comes to painting a wood stock, do I have to completely strip it prior to doing so?  What's the best way to prep wood for paint?
: Re: My New Flying Dragon!
: hiroller September 09, 2008, 11:08:13 AM
I got her scoped today and was testing her out for a bit.  Boy, this gun shoots waaaay better than I can.  The trigger took a bit of getting used to.  I don't feel a second stage and it's much lighter than a GRT-III which I'm used to.  She packs a super punch too and is pretty darn loud.  Mike mentioned some pretty high velocities clocked with this power tuned QB and he was right on.  It doesn't have any recoil at all but the end result is a punch not unlike my .22 Panther.  I'm going clear through beer bottle caps at 30 yards with predators.  At 20 yards she shot quarter sized groups with Crosman Domes, was all over the place with RWS Superdomes but does dime sized groups with Predators.  This surprised me a bit since none of my other guns like Predators at all.  What sucks is I only ordered 1 tin of them since none of my other guns liked them but I guess it's time to start putting another order together soon.  I haven't counted but I'm estimating around 30 full powered shots (2 powerlets), which sounds about right with a power tune (around 15 shots per).  I also caught myself grabbing the barrel a few times to break it open (so used to springers).  This has already become one of my favorites; I'm glad I went to MM for this rifle...
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: longislandhunter September 10, 2008, 12:41:30 AM
Congrats on the new MM QB.  I have two of em,,, a .177 and a .22 ,, fantastic guns and MM does fantastic job tuning them.

With my .177 I'm getting an average of about 30 full power shots with 2 powerlets and the last chrony tests showed her averaging 803 FPS.  

Best of luck with the new shooter.....  

Jeff
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: rjwine September 10, 2008, 01:01:03 PM
First post here...been lurking for awhile now, but finally feel compelled to add my two cents.

This forum led me to Mike Melick a few months ago, which resulted in my purchasing two .22 QB-78s (one for a friend) and a .22 B-26. They exceeded my expectations in every way, and are an absolute pleasure to shoot. I recently added one of Mike's new carbon fiber shrouds to my QB with excellent results.

 Mike is truly a craftsman, and a great guy to do business with. Thanks Mike!

Roy
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: TCups September 10, 2008, 01:05:49 PM
Welcome to the GTA, Roy.  You started off with a couple of good choices for air rifles.  But watch out now, as your expectations will be even higher for your next one and your next one and your next one . . .   Just always remember, you can stop any time you want.
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: rjwine September 10, 2008, 01:19:12 PM
Thanks TC!
It has already begun...
I had some early experience with a Crosman 2250 and a friend's Gamo, both in stock form, before ordering from Mike. He has raised the bar considerably for me :-).

Roy
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: TCups September 10, 2008, 01:49:33 PM
Send us a picture of the shrouded QB78.  Haven't seen one, yet.
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: hiroller September 10, 2008, 02:12:07 PM
I'm curious about that as well.  I didn't know Mike made shrouds for them and if he does I won't hesitate to order one from him right away...
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: longislandhunter September 10, 2008, 03:00:33 PM
Yeah,,,, I"d be interested in seeing it also  

Jeff
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: rjwine September 10, 2008, 03:48:41 PM
I believe I am the first to receive one of Mike's shrouds. Mine came as a kit which included a 3/4" diameter, 12 inch carbon fiber tube, two plastic spacers, and an end/muzzle piece. The whole assembly installs by friction..no screws.

I am trying to figure out how to post a photo. Meanwhile, Mike has just announced the shroud on his website, and will, hopefully, jump in here.

Roy
: QB-78 shrouds.........
: mikeiniowa September 12, 2008, 03:35:46 PM
nothing fancy, just a carbon fiber tube with a woven pattern on the outside with two friction fit spacers and an end plug with a 7mm or 6mm hole for the pellet to escape from, they do make the rifle seem like it's lost some power do to the reduced recoil from the gas passage back into the shroud.....makes them easier to shoot accurately......
: Mike can you post a picture
: BigCat1 September 12, 2008, 11:52:32 PM
of your shrouds..................................Thanks
: RE: QB-78 shrouds.........
: RainDog September 13, 2008, 12:20:54 AM
Mike, do you make a shroud that would fit a 1322 Crosman? I've got one on order from Mountain Air right now, and am looking for a shroud similar to what you describe. 3/4" OD, about 6" in length. Ideally I'd like to have more than a couple inches of overhang off the 4" of barrel forward of the band, but it's a "six of one and a half dozen of the other" deal. I don't want an obscenely long barrel length appearance, but neither do I want to cut the barrel down and lose velocity. If you do make 'em, what would you charge?

 Thanks,
 Parks
: RE: Mike can you post a picture
: rjwine September 14, 2008, 05:06:25 AM
I just tried, but it needs to be reduced in size...
: RE: Mike can you post a picture
: rjwine September 14, 2008, 05:23:26 AM
One more time...

Roy
: Re: My New Flying Dragon!
: gamo2hammerli September 14, 2008, 06:41:55 AM
Rjwine, that's a freaking long shroud.....looks like a 16 to 18"s shroud.
: RE: QB-78 shrouds.........
: mikeiniowa September 14, 2008, 08:46:42 AM
I'll have to know the od of the barrel......it's best to custom fit right in the shop so they fit tight.......
: RE: QB-78 shrouds.........
: TCups September 14, 2008, 08:55:20 AM
Nice work on the carbon fiber shrouds, Mike.  First one of yours I have seen, but not the last, I'm sure.  So if you had the precise OD of the barrel, caliber and length of shroud needed, you could make and ship said item?  Hmmmmmmm. . .
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: rjwine September 14, 2008, 11:20:07 AM
:-) It is 12" long, and is positioned  almost  8 inches down from the muzzle (per Mike's recommendation).

Roy
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: Jaymo September 14, 2008, 12:24:50 PM
Whoawhoawhoawhoawhoawhoawhoa, MM offers a carbon fiber shroud for the QB78? How did I miss this? I need one.