I don't know Marvin,,,,, every springer I've bought, expensive and cheap, shot accurately right out of the box. Some of course shot better than others but the accuracy on all of them was fine. I will admit that the home tunes I did certainly did much to improve the cocking and or firing characteristics and some of the rifles did indeed become even more accurate than they were, but for the most part they were all accurate right out of the box. Even my cheapo B-3 rifles actually shot pretty good from the box and very accurately too. If a B-3 can shoot bullseyes at 20or 25 yards consistently without a tune or without work being done to it then I certainly think a PCP costing several hundred dollars should be capable of the same consistently. I should add that I have quite a few springers, cheap and expensive, that I never got around to tuning and they're shooting just fine. I never buy a rifle with the expectation that I will have to send it to a pro tuner, or do a tune myself, just to get it to shoot straight and I think a lot of air gunners may feel the same way. I'm not saying a tune isn't a great thing to have done, or do yourself, I'm just saying I don't expect a new rifle to be inaccurate until I get it tuned.... and I feel the same way about PCP rifles. Just my opinion and I realize many will disagree with me.....
BTW Marvin,,, just wanted to tell you how much I enjoyed all your posts regarding your low pressure fill testing with the condor,,, very good reading

Jeff