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Offline melloroadman

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RE: Marauder is Tomorrow...
« Reply #15 on: April 22, 2009, 11:52:44 AM »
Those are my thoughts about all the people that buy springers that cost more than the Discovery and then have to send them to a tuners or do a home tune to get them to be accurate . But people seem to expect that and live with it every day . Marvin

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RE: Marauder is Tomorrow...
« Reply #16 on: April 22, 2009, 12:41:50 PM »
I don't know Marvin,,,,, every springer I've bought, expensive and cheap, shot accurately right out of the box.  Some of course shot better than others but the accuracy on all of them was fine.  I will admit that the home tunes I did certainly did much to improve the cocking and or firing characteristics and some of the rifles did indeed become even more accurate than they were, but for the most part they were all accurate right out of the box.  Even my cheapo B-3 rifles actually shot pretty good from the box and very accurately too.  If a B-3 can shoot bullseyes at 20or 25 yards consistently without a tune or without work being done to it then I certainly think a PCP costing several hundred dollars should be capable of the same consistently.  I should add that I have quite a few springers, cheap and expensive, that I never got around to tuning and they're shooting just fine.  I never buy a rifle with the expectation that I will have to send it to a pro tuner, or do a tune myself, just to get it to shoot straight and I think a lot of air gunners may feel the same way.  I'm not saying a tune isn't a great thing to have done, or do yourself, I'm just saying I don't expect a new rifle to be inaccurate until I get it tuned....  and I feel the same way about PCP rifles.   Just my opinion and I realize many will disagree with me.....

BTW Marvin,,, just wanted to tell you how much I enjoyed all your posts regarding your low pressure fill testing with the condor,,, very good reading  :)

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THANKS JEFF N/T
« Reply #17 on: April 22, 2009, 12:58:44 PM »
N/T

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RE: Marauder is Tomorrow...
« Reply #18 on: April 23, 2009, 08:33:03 AM »
Dave one of the reason the Crosman was able to keep the price down was that they did copy or base it on another rifle.  The trigger is an exact copy of the Theoben series 4 trigger.  See for your self here:  http://www.theoben.co.uk/files/Series%204%20Trigger%20Instructions.pdf  then watch the Crosman videos again.  Now That's not a bad thing because that is a very nice trigger & it's patent just ran out in January.   Also the magazine is a copy of the the Theoben magazine, see photos below.  What this means is that it didn't cost Crosman the R&D which brings the cost down.  I have info from a very good source that other parts were copied as well.  Please understand that I'm not knocking Crosman because it's just good business & it helps keep the cost down.  But people have to understand that although it's Crosmans best product by a mile to date they had a lot of "help" with the design.  By the way I'll take a E-Type based rifle for 1/2 price any day of the week as mine is on pre-order from PA.

E-Type magazines:
http://i545.photobucket.com/albums/hh378/robinsonmac/E-typemagazine.jpg

Marauder magazine:
http://i545.photobucket.com/albums/hh378/robinsonmac/marauder_10-shot_clip.gif



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RE: Marauder is Tomorrow...
« Reply #19 on: April 23, 2009, 11:36:37 AM »
I think this is why Crosman is dribbling out the Marauders.  I wouldn't be surprised it each one is going on the bench and tested.  This is why the reason for long delays and lead times.  

The hype is being carefully built, with Josh going on forums and releasing the rifle to mostly friendly testers. This is text book viral marketing. The scarcity on the front end means that the initial perception will be one of desirability, indeed 100 people are willing to pay a premium to get one. That's already accepted. Brilliant.

My guess that anything that comes out in the website order or in the May 28th release is going on the bench at Crosman and tested.    We'll see, but I think this is going to be a very trouble free release.  they know we're watching very closely and that a warm reception from the forum community will be worth a fortune in advertising, better than a million banner ads.

They are releasing them slow so that every one can be as good as it can be.  The whole preorder hoopla makes sure the rifles end up in hands of people that post to these forums, because they only release a few at a time and it was mainly publicized through the forums.

Crosman would be insane to screw this up, and there is every evidence that they learned from the disco.
Adam

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Re: Marauder is Tomorrow...
« Reply #20 on: April 23, 2009, 12:23:35 PM »
Couldn't agree more Gene - about Crosman standing behind what they sell. I had a problem a few months ago with a new Phantom. Their response was absolutely "top notch".