showing up with guns on conventions, what's the deal?

[geiger]

i'm sure you all know recently people have showed up with loaded guns at Obama's conventions.

as much as i like guns this stunt is just not tasteful. in the event a shoot would accidentally go off, all hell would break loose and gun rights restrictions would be even more severe. personally i don't think the US is ready for a revolt, but i don't live there so i don't know exactly. in the event of an actual revolt, what would actually happen? who would get to lead after it's over? republicans? you know something is very wrong when the same corporation finances both candidates presidential campaigns.  so what would actually happen. i think the US is not the US the founding fathers meant to be since the FED was established. the reformers would need to have some serious plans to reshape america, otherwise the bloodshed just wouldn't be worth it IMO.

personally i really dislike the tactics  hard commentators at FOX use (Beck, Oriley, Hannity,....) . inciting hate and murderous thought into people.
one thing the left is good at, is sparking criticism and debate with non violent means. from what i've seen the right is much more prone to violence.

don't get me wrong...i love weapons and i try to be as non bipartisan as possible, but this is just not the way, at least not yet.  

i've picked up this funny comparison:

A couple arrested for wearing anti-Bush T-shirts to the president's July 4 appearance at the West Virginia Capitol filed a federal lawsuit yesterday alleging their First Amendment rights were violated.

Nicole and Jeff Rank were removed from the event in handcuffs after revealing T-shirts with President Bush's name crossed out on the front. Nicole Rank's shirt had the words "Love America, Hate Bush" on the back and Jeff Rank's had "Regime change starts at home" on the back.

http://www.firstamendmentcenter.org/news.aspx?id=14041

seems Obama is more freedom loving than Bush, by not prohibiting loaded guns at his visits. i also think Bush tramped on human right way more than BO has. but the fact that BO didn't discard the patriot act and some other laws, just proves my point that he's no less a puppet than his predecessors.
so if you're gonna be shooting people, make sure you put the leaders of both camps before the firing squad.

[TCups]

Thank goodness for Fox News.  I believe there was one instance I heard about where someone with a visible gun was standing across the street from one of the town hall meetings, but I don't recall all the details.  If it did happen and if ti was illegal, then I hope and strongly suspect he was arrested and placed on trial.  But I suspect it was an isolated incident and is being overblown for political purposes, just like the SEIU members who were inciting violence and beating people actually inside a town hall meeting in St. Louis should have been arrested, and just like the left wing news outlets largely overlook.  Or like they overlooked the New Black Panthers intimidating voters at the polls.  I take it in the same context as Nancy Pelosi's implication that someone showing up with a Swastika with a red line slash painted over means that conservatives at these meetings are Swastika waving Nazis.  

If you have any substantive arguments to forward your socialist views, fire away.  But the tactic of ridiculing discrediting the lefts opponent's (which of Saul Alinsky's rules was that?) will carry no real weight here.  The left should realize that all this current BS has aroused a heretofore largely docile majority of American conservatives.  We are not violent, we are not a bunch of gun-toting Nazis, and we are no longer silent.  Neither we nor Fox News nor the vocal conservatives on alternate media (now strongly and more actively  than ever before voicing opposition to the left wing media's statist agenda), will be shouted down, or discredited by the tactics so clearly enumerated by Saul Alinsky, they hero of left wing community organizers everywhere.

You are going to see a very different political atmosphere and an historic 2010 election cycle in the USA.  The conservatives are fully awake and paying attention now.  And we are ready for the upcoming political fight like never before.  And the process is and will be legal and non-violent.  It is uniquely American, not un-American.  And at least for now, free speech is still protected by our Constitution, irrespective of union thugs and media bias, thank God.

[geiger]

nah i don't think it was illegal, if i'm not mistaken it happened in Arizona where having a unconcealed gun is legal. i also don't remember anyone taking him away. don't know much about the SEIU case, but didn't the protesters try to wreck havoc there. sure, it doesn't warrant beating up someone but i guess both sides aren't that innocent. ironically the guy who got beat up had no insurance and had to get donors to pay for his injuries.
why was it overlooked, well don't watch far sided news. as for the swastika, that's just more silliness.

i did pose you some questions i was hoping to have answered. as for ridiculing opponents, no not really. some deserve being ridiculed like Beck or Oriley, who more often than not, lie and violently try to spread their view. i think there is circulating a lot of youtube videos exposing them and since i remember the leftists media rarely or never incites hate into their viewers, but yes they do spin and lie. why did nobody revolt while Bush was in charge and he did just as many if not more political blunders. see the difference?
i'm really interested on why do you think the right would make a better job?
i have yet to see major media anchors choosing a different side than these two. Bill Maher tries to be nonpartisan, that much respect for him. don't know much about what people are on the right side, but Ron Paul seems one of the few who knows what he's talking about and he's the only one who seems to be holding on to the original idea the founding fathers have. he's one of the few persons who openly criticize the FED and rightly so. i never seen Obama do that.
please don't call me a socialist since i'm not. i'm a huge critic of our national health care program and our social care. i also have a huge beef with our current leadership which is left. i only like to expose BS when i see it.