Thank's Guy's,I got fed up lookin' on-line, and decided to go for a drive to "WallyWorld", I picked up a "Tasco 4x20" only cost me 14 bucks(cdn), so it won't matter too much if my springer chews it up,LoL,,I wouldn't mind getting the "Tasco 2-6x32 Illuminated Blue RangeFinder" I,ve seen them on E-Bay going for 18 bucks,,but when you look at the shipping costs, which were 30 bucks,so 48 bucks total, and with the cdn-us exchange rate, it works out to 53 bucks CDN,,,,,,,,,,so, I guess I'll keep lookin',LoL,,Andy.