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Offline HNT5

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Trail XL first impressions.
« on: May 07, 2010, 02:39:30 PM »
I found the box on the front porch when I got home from work today. Woo Hoo! Here's my initial thoughts of the gun I'll mount the scope up, clean the barrel and shoot it hopefully tonight or tomorrow.  Sorry if it's long.

The rifle arrived today, and I could hardly wait to open the box up. Midway did a good job packaging it with some air filled “pillows” for cushioning. Based the condition of the outside box, I’d say UPS did not man handle it too much. The rifle box seems sturdy, is full color with a picture of the rifle, the Benjamin logo, the claims of 1100 fps and 30 ft/lbs. That box should grab you attention if you saw it on the shelf of your local sporting goods store. Inside, the rifle, scope, sling and manual were tucked in a 1 piece Styrofoam cut out that seems to keep everything in place. All the pieces are each wrapped in their own plastic bag, the instruction manual having the key for the trigger lock provided. The Centerpoint 3X9X40mm AO scope has a Mil-Dot and finger adjustable turrets. There was a lens cloth, instruction and allen wrench in the bag. The 2 piece rings are already mounted to the scope. I’m interested to see how close the got the cross hairs centered when they attached the rings. I’d say kudos to Crosman for the packaging of the rifle.

The rifle is large, heavy and long(48 ½ in), with a slight nose heavy balance. This is my first thumb hole stocked rifle so it feels somewhat strange. It’s not that I dislike it, I’m just not used to it yet. There is a large fairly long scope rail probably welded to the receiver that looks to accept only Weaver type mounts. The rifle looks real nice with some grain trying to poke through the finish. But they are some very visible flaws in the finish (looks bubbled) right at the white plastic but spacer, the pistol grip and a small impression in the stock near end cap. The stock seems well fitted to the action with the sling attachment points pre-installed, so drilling the stock is not needed. The rifle has a thick looking double-jointed cocking lever, so the cut out in the stock is not as long as most break barrel rifles. The Benjamin name is cut into the wood on the underside of the stock between the trigger guard and cocking lever cut out. The trigger guard and grooved blade are plastic, the safety tab is metal. The finish on the metal seems good, but it needs all the preservative wiped off to really see what it looks like.  The stock is truly ambidextrous with a nice rubber recoil pad and there is (obviously) no iron sites. So far I really like it.

Nathan

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Re: Trail XL first impressions.
« Reply #1 on: May 07, 2010, 11:48:20 PM »
Good luck with it this weekend! I am looking forward to anything you can share about yours. I also received one last night (mine is a replacement from Crosman due to a failed gas piston) and will begin breaking it in today. Lets hope we both got good ones.
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RE: Trail XL first impressions.
« Reply #2 on: May 07, 2010, 11:57:31 PM »
Numbers, pellets and holes !!! We want to see how fast, with what pellet, and holes in targets  !!!!  :D

Seriously ... hope you both enjoy them !!!

Paul.
Benji Trail NPXL 1100, Gamo .22 Whisper, Crosman 760 Pumpmaster, Crosman 66 Powermaster, Crosman .22 revolver, Daisy model 102, Daisy early Model 25.

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Here are some early numbers (drum roll please)
« Reply #3 on: May 08, 2010, 05:09:33 AM »
Well last night I took the gun in the basement and wiped it all down to remove the oil and mounted the scope. The scope needed a little adjustment to get the cross hairs level but it wasn’t that bad. The optics so far look pretty decent and clear.  This morning I went and cleaned the barrel real good. Wow was it dirty, some of it may have been preservatives or left over’s from the manufacturing process. If you get a Trail XL clean the barrel good first! One thing I noticed and I don’t know yet if it will be problem is the breech seal. It is basically flush with the breech face. I don’t know if that’s the way it supposed to be or not.  So I cleaned up the barrel and test fired it twice into a block of duct seal.
The 1st shot popped pretty loud and the Kodiak pellet went clear through the duct seal block and hit the concrete floor! So I proceeded to start shooting over the chrony. I used 21 grain Beeman Kodiak’s because I remember reading that Maccari advocated  using heavy pellets to help reduce dieseling. So the 1st shot goes across at 731 fps, and I think wow, pretty good. Next one 731, and I’m thinking that’s good. Then things got interesting. Here’s the next 13 shots and remember they’re Kodiaks. 756,758,818,813,829,863,871,856,849,873,835,823and 834! The gun is dieseling pretty bad and I was starting to worry when I saw the numbers going up and up cause I was afraid I might blow/burn the piston seal.  Looking at the last 11 shots (those in the 800’s) that averages out to 842, SD of 23 and 33 ft/lbs.  That power is at 4700 ft above sea level no less, wow! What I’m going to do is sneak to the range early tomorrow morning (I know it’s Mother Day) and shoot at least a ½ tin of Kodiaks through it. I won’t be concerned with accuracy, I just want to break it in and (hopefully) burn off some of the oils.

Nathan

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RE: Trail XL first impressions.
« Reply #4 on: May 08, 2010, 05:29:27 AM »
Wow! Those are impressive numbers, 33 FPE at 4700 feet altitude is awesome. Let us know how it shoots after break-in. That's going to be one serious hunting airgun.

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RE: Here are some early numbers (drum roll please)
« Reply #5 on: May 08, 2010, 06:11:44 AM »
Good stuff, Nathan. I wish I had some Kodiaks to try. Yours are shooting as fast as my JSB 18.1's right now.
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RE: Here are some early numbers (drum roll please)
« Reply #6 on: May 08, 2010, 09:57:37 PM »
my breach seal looked like that. i did the gene trick put a piece of wax paper between the barrel and shot it ' did not show to be leaking but i'm like you don't like the way it looks.   makes me wonder if thats a issure with the xl1100s
XL1500177  XL1100 22 CROSSMAN PHANTOM 177 REMINGTON SUMMIT22 CROSSMAN STORM 177 BENJAMINE 392P 22 RWS MODEL 45 177 CROSSMAN 1377 CROSSMAN TITAN 22 AND A B-3 CHING CHANGE

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RE: Trail XL first impressions.
« Reply #7 on: May 09, 2010, 12:00:21 AM »
Nathan,

Don't be surprised if those numbers come way down after you've burned off more of the oil in there.

Mine, and some pix posted of others, show that they are shipped with an unbelievable amount of light-weight oil in them. Mine was still blowing smoke at 300 pellets when I opened it up, and looking at how much oil was still coating everything in it, may have kept smoking for many hunderds more shots if I hadn't cleaned it out.  The piston was almost wet enough to drip oil !!!!

Even with a good seal, I believe that because the oil was so thin, it would easly get past the seal  with the slight negative pressure that's caused in the combustion chamber during the cocking stroke.

Hope you have alot of fun with it !!! Let us know what pellet it shoots best, and what it can do with it.  

Paul.
Benji Trail NPXL 1100, Gamo .22 Whisper, Crosman 760 Pumpmaster, Crosman 66 Powermaster, Crosman .22 revolver, Daisy model 102, Daisy early Model 25.

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Re: Trail XL first impressions.
« Reply #8 on: May 09, 2010, 02:07:09 AM »
After mine wouldn't stop smoking after a few hundred shots I decided to tear it apart. Glad I did. It look like it was dipped in a barrel of oil. I think those #'s may come down a bit. Mine came down and is shooting about the same as pauls.