finally im getting a lot better groups @ 25 yrds.i am shooting the crow mags.after about 6 or 7 shots i throw one out their.when i shoot i usually shoot and reload fairly fast.i love to shoot.only after putting just over 300 shots through her im getting some pretty tight groups.you know before i was sure it was the gun but i know w/ groups like im getting and then throwing off is just fatigue.i cant wait until i get around the 1000 mark.i am a lil concerned w/ my trigger.(Bobs trigger)im not sure but i think their is a lil to much play in it when and not cocked.ive never messed w/ the set screws,not until i get some professional advice.now the scope, im not real happy w/ it at all.i didnt like having to shim it,the rear eye cap is a lil loose.no clue how to tighten it.the windage dial wont stay tight and my settings change w/ the recoil of the gun.so if any of you Hunter Extreme owners could give me an idea of a good scope.i want to thank you all for the advice and helping a newbe out.i wanted to put itin the back of the closet and buy another one.now i wanna keep it and still buy something else.thanks again everyone.