Thanks again Thomas & Neil
Neil, as for the pigeons being unsafe to eat,,,,,, I've been eating them for years and never had a problem,,,, just delicious meals :) . I have over the years killed a few pigeons that didn't appear healthy and those birds I of course simply tossed.
AS for the starlings,,, I kept those starlings just for pics but I have eaten them in the past and believe it or not they are very tasty......
Jeff