Bushnell 3-9 x 40mm

[crazy4salmon]

Bushnell Banner Dusk & Dawn 3-9 x 40mm multi-x matt. Great scope had it on my Whisper for two weeks then put a 4 x16 Centerpoint on. This scope looks like new except for the sticky scope mount residue. Someone should use it. I paid 80 bucks for it after tax at my local Joes. Looking for $60 postal money order. That will include shipping. Thanks

Dan Larsen
kona93@comcast.net

[crazy4salmon]

As low as I will go. Sorry postal money orders only.

[dave2288]

what is the scope clear at?(range?...50?  100 yrds?)

[crazy4salmon]

The scope is very clear, but to what range I dont know. When I get home from work I will pull it out of the box and check it out for you. I have not looked through it in six months. :0

[crazy4salmon]

Put the scope on a seagull at 100 yards last night after I got home. Would have been no problem making a center mass shot with it. Nice and clear even on 9 power.  :emoticon:

[speedturtle]

hey Dan, does it have an AO? Please confirm. Thanks.

[crazy4salmon]

No, Willie. It doesn't have the adjustment up front with the yardages. This one you can set the power(3-9) and then adjust the back of the scope to focus to your eye. But no yardages. Sorry... :0

[speedturtle]

Thanks for the reply Dan. I'm not that familiar with regards to the difference between the operation of an A.O. compared to a scope with an eye focus adjustment ring. Aside from range finding for an A.O. does adjusting the eye focus ring only make the image appear properly focus with no indication of its possible distance from the objective lens? That's what confuses me Dan. I noticed that Bushnell doesn't make a lot of scope with an A.O. and instead use a variable eye focus instead.

I am planning to change the included Gamo 3-9X40 scope that came with my Big Cat. I noticed that my shots sometimes "walk" on a certain pattern and I was totally baffled. Most of the time it was dead on at 10 yards. What I noticed was I get pretty accurate at the 3X magnification setting (the lowest) but when I started to set in on a higher magnification setting my shots seem to go incrementally on a certain direction. I noticed something and I am not still sure if it was the culprit - the magnification adjustment ring is slipping! When I set it a 4.5X just to make the image appear larger on the eyepiece i noticed that after about 40 - 50 shots the magnification adjustment ring moved from 4.5X setting to the 4X setting. To confirm my suspicion i decided to tape the magnification adjustment ring to keep it in the same setting and i noticed that my shots exhibit a tight grouping again.

I'm tempted to buy the Centerpoint 4-16x40 with an A.O. scope from wally world but since your scope is a Bushnell (which is a known brand) I assume that I'm better off with a Bushnell. I just have no idea what are the advantages of having an eye focus adjustment ring would be compared to a scope with an A.O.

I'd appreciate if you can enlighten me on this matter. Thanks.

Speedturtle

[crazy4salmon]

I am in the same boat as you Willie. I dont know the advantages or disadvantages. I only started getting serious about this addicting hobby a year and a half ago. I think the eye adjusting ring at the back of the scope is to adjust to your eye only. When I screw the eye piece out the image in the scope gets larger, but fuzzier. With the eye ring in, it fits my eyes perfectly. This scope is very clear all the way to the 9 power. With my Wally World scopes they are clear to 10 power then get fuzzy. So no real difference. I just like the tactical look of the Wally World scopes, and the mil dots. The bushnell may be a little clearer and lighter for sure. I was thinking that since no one has been interested in the Bushy. I would put it back on my Whisper and take the Wally World scope off.  :0  They both have there ups and downs. Now that you have me looking through the Bushy she is looking pretty nice. :emoticon:

[speedturtle]

At least you have two scopes to tinker upon Dan. Hehehe.

I was able to test my Gamo Big Cat in the field a while ago and it did not disappoint me as long as I'm putting a tape to secure the magnification adjustment ring. My test range is from 15 yards to 50 yards. As predicted by Babbin Perry's Holdover/under simulation software my shots are pretty close to its drop/rise depending on the intended yardage. What I do noticed too with the included gamo scope (3-9x40 non AO) is that from 5x to 9x you would notice some chromatic aberration with the lenses but not too critical. If I can tolerate this scopes  preformance just by simply taping its magnification ring with a masking tape then I'll probably just keep it with the Big Cat for a while. But I'm still thinking of upgrading it to a better scope in the future. Those Bushy's are always tempting me. Hahaha!

I just browsed through lilja's website (they manufacture very high quality rifle barrels) and I read about the NightForce Scope. What a scope! I wonder if any serious airgunner has tried to install one on top of their prized air gun rifles. Now that's a killer setup!

Speedturtle

[crazy4salmon]

I have never heard of those scopes. Sounds like you have your scope figured out. Hope she holds up for you. The Gamo that came on my Whisper only made it about 300 pellets before it went south then north then west. Well you get the picture. Good luck with it Willie. Some guys have had good luck with them, just not me. :0

[speedturtle]

This is their website Dan - http://www.nightforceoptics.com/

I believe they cater more to real life military snipers because of their superb optics and expensive price. Hehehe. Take a look at their rigorous testing for optics quality and reliability and you'd be amazed. For me it would be about 9X more expensive than my Gamo Big Cat! Hahaha.

You know what puzzles me Dan, I'm just wondering if these people that manufacture these fine air guns do actually visit air gun forums like GTA and others and listen to what we say or comment about their product. I see the same comment over and over again and yet nobody seems to take notice of it to do something corrective about it. Sounds ridiculous isn't it? In your case your Gamo scope is "walking all over"! With mine the magnification adjustment ring is slipping giving me inconsistent pellet locations after some time. Why not offer a better scope and increase their sales because of that, right? Oh, and one more thing - their trigger is really quite unique -  a lot of people continuously complain about them and yet they still don't want to correct it. Well, at least it's good business for Charlie.

I'm still observing my Gamo scope if it can hold on. If not I'll try to complain it to Gamo and probably ask for a scope replacement. But in the back of my mind I would really like to put a better scope with my Big Cat. Good luck to you too Dan and Good Shooting!

Speedturtle.

[crazy4salmon]

Those scopes are BEEFY, Willie. I can see why they want an arm and a leg for them. Looks like a good quality product. I cant shoot any better no matter how good the scope is. One would look cool sitting on top of my Talon.

  I agree with you about companies listening to consumers. They should hire someone to just search they're products on forums to see what the customers like or dont like about their products. With Gamo they just want to sell as many rifles to us Yanks as possible for as little as possible. How easy would it be to make a better trigger??? Must be something to do with safety in a cheaper gun. They must test fire with toddlers of different sizes standing on the trigger?HEHEHE The scopes, I guess we get what we pay for. :emoticon: They should just put together a better package and add some to the price. Even if they have an elite series or something like that. Just keep selling the others.

  Good luck with trying to get Gamo customer service to help you with their products. From what I have read it is a real crap shoot. Keep that Big Cat shooting sweat, and we will talk to you latter.

[speedturtle]

Thanks Dan for giving me an initial idea on what to expect with regards to Gamo's Customer Service. My scope is working fine except for that nasty masking tape that I put on top of it to keep the magnification adjustment ring from moving! Hahaha. Other airgunners would definitely laugh at me when they see my scope with a bandage. LOL!

I guess most of the guys at Gamo are business minded than airgun minded. Because if they are there will always be an unending pursuit to refine and rebuild your product to function up to its best. If I'd be one of them I would test my own product and honestly tell myself "Now, what's wrong with this setup and how can I improve it better without charging too much for my customers?" Or better yet offer an upgrade kit as an option with a better scope and trigger with a Gamo logo on it! You don't need to have a PhD in business to understand this. All we need sometimes is just plain old common sense. But since we are at the end of the business chain we can't do anything about it but to complain and wait for the time that they can hear us clearly.

I must agree, this hobby is becoming addictive! hahaha! Springers are really more challenging to use.

Let's go shooting again!

Speedturtle